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Sanity -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 2:41:18 PM)
Maybe we have a nonsensical apples and grapes comparison. As in, Iraq wasn't handed over to radical Islamic extremists as Egypt was quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 Would this be the same democracy you told us the Iraq invasion was about ? Maybe you have a democratic democracy and a republican democray, with differing meanings ?

joether -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 2:42:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity With Obamas help and blessing, the Muslim Brotherhood fomented a takeover, Steven. Egypt had been a moderate, stable Middle East nation, but no more. quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven Well, damn. I hope they mellow with leadership responsibilities. Um, Sanity, Egypt's people overthrew their leader Mubarak. I'm not sure what he could have done differently - he seems a little hesitant to invade Arab nations at the drop of a hat, and with good reason. Cite direct, unbias evidence that this is all factual and truthful.

Politesub53 -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 3:50:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity I've documented the aid we've given the Egyptian "rebels" and its available to savvy web users to look up If you're left out of the loop then try harder to keep pace No you havent. You made the claim about US military infrastructure, that is a flat out lie. The line below, from your OP. "Our military infrastructure should NOT be in the business of aiding our enemies, and that it is being done so overtly is all the more scandalous"

Musicmystery -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 4:02:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Remember, Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on the dinner menu There is no sound reason to support cutting our own throat Only if you buy into the "life is a zero sum gain" paranoia.

Politesub53 -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 4:08:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Maybe we have a nonsensical apples and grapes comparison. As in, Iraq wasn't handed over to radical Islamic extremists as Egypt was Egypt wasnt handed over to anyone, since the US had no input into the rebellion, other than condemning the violence by government troops. Iraq, on the other hand, is now run by a party with close political and financial links to Iran. yes bro, the same Iran you constanly accuse Obama of backing. Seems to me you need the whole of the middle east political system explained to you. Far from Syria turning into another Iran, Iran is backing the current regime. Saudi and the UAE are backing the rebels, along with much of the west. Saudi also financed AQ, with most of the 9/11 hijackers being Saudis. Add to that much of the ME is split along Clan lines, as well as religious ones. So to sum up, not only dont you know the difference between socialism and communism, you dont know the difference between Sunni and Shia.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 4:10:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Maybe we have a nonsensical apples and grapes comparison. As in, Iraq wasn't handed over to radical Islamic extremists as Egypt was Egypt wasnt handed over to anyone, since the US had no input into the rebellion, other than condemning the violence by government troops. Iraq, on the other hand, is now run by a party with close political and financial links to Iran. yes bro, the same Iran you constanly accuse Obama of backing. Seems to me you need the whole of the middle east political system explained to you. Far from Syria turning into another Iran, Iran is backing the current regime. Saudi and the UAE are backing the rebels, along with much of the west. Saudi also financed AQ, with most of the 9/11 hijackers being Saudis. Add to that much of the ME is split along Clan lines, as well as religious ones. So to sum up, not only dont you know the difference between socialism and communism, you dont know the difference between Sunni and Shia. You wouldn't be saying he's full of SHIT would you? I mean that could be whined about.

mnottertail -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 4:11:45 PM)
Egypt also had free and fair elections and they put these folks into power, something that was not allowed for Iraq, while under our military governance, we told them which candidates could run. So the nonsensical comparison is more like apples and teabaggers.

dcnovice -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 4:12:38 PM)
quote: Remember, Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on the dinner menu What system would you prefer?

DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 4:20:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 So to sum up, not only dont you know the difference between socialism and communism, you dont know the difference between Sunni and Shia. Or shit from shinola, not that he cares to begin with. I find it hard to imagine anyone with that much rage and such a distorted grasp on reality not being on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list, but they seem to be in ready supply. Worrisome. [sm=couch.gif]

Politesub53 -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 4:24:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam You wouldn't be saying he's full of SHIT would you? I mean that could be whined about. < You may thin that: I couldn`t possibly commet > The late great Ian Richardson in House of Cards.

slvemike4u -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 5:47:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity I've documented the aid we've given the Egyptian "rebels" and its available to savvy web users to look up If you're left out of the loop then try harder to keep pace Most of us try with all we have to stay out of the "loop" you inhabit.

TheHeretic -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 6:17:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: atursvcMaam His way seems to not invade whole countries, but to do things under the radar wilth a high level of deniability. Yeah. And then leak the whole classified operation when his campaign advisors say the poll numbers need a bump...

SternSkipper -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 6:43:42 PM)
quote: Wait. I thought he hadn't accomplished anything? Idaho's next! Plenty Of Reason to ... and we can get potatoes and zinc basically anywhere

Sanity -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 9:16:38 PM)
I full well know the difference between the Sunni and the Shia, and I am obviously more knowledgeable about Islam than yourself or even most others posting here. I am also aware that we havent been discussing said differences... Just as I am aware that certain leftists cannot possibly debate honestly because the facts are always against them, and they must resort instead to low-minded personal attacks, and their typical derails, and their mindless straw man arguments, and their silly obfuscations, and their blatant lies, etc. And for the record, communists are merely socialists whose power mad leaders have all the power their dark and stupid hearts desire. And, yes - the United States absolutely had a hand in gifting Egypt to the Muslim Brotherhood. I have spent hours here documenting that fact only to have the moderator delete the thread on a whim, and I wont bother repeating my work or contributing here on that level again until this web site becomes more stable. Further, it isnt amazing that leftists can only think of trying to change the subject at seeing the news that Egypt is now in the hands of extremists, but it is sad regardless. quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Maybe we have a nonsensical apples and grapes comparison. As in, Iraq wasn't handed over to radical Islamic extremists as Egypt was Egypt wasnt handed over to anyone, since the US had no input into the rebellion, other than condemning the violence by government troops. Iraq, on the other hand, is now run by a party with close political and financial links to Iran. yes bro, the same Iran you constanly accuse Obama of backing. Seems to me you need the whole of the middle east political system explained to you. Far from Syria turning into another Iran, Iran is backing the current regime. Saudi and the UAE are backing the rebels, along with much of the west. Saudi also financed AQ, with most of the 9/11 hijackers being Saudis. Add to that much of the ME is split along Clan lines, as well as religious ones. So to sum up, not only dont you know the difference between socialism and communism, you dont know the difference between Sunni and Shia.

Musicmystery -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 9:19:43 PM)
You forgot that Myanmar is still at the hands of a brutal military dictatorship. Obama's done nothing! What's Mitt gonna do? Invade Egypt? Loan them his magic underpants? Cut their taxes?

Owner59 -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 9:20:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: atursvcMaam His way seems to not invade whole countries, but to do things under the radar wilth a high level of deniability. Yeah. And then leak the whole classified operation when his campaign advisors say the poll numbers need a bump... Well after bush "lowered the bar"....it`s all good.....right rich?[;)] How`s Mitt`s swiftboating going.....btw?[:D]

Sanity -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 9:21:51 PM)
I would prefer a Republic. quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: Remember, Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on the dinner menu What system would you prefer?

Owner59 -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 9:22:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery You forgot that Myanmar is still at the hands of a brutal military dictatorship. Obama's done nothing! What's Mitt gonna do? Invade Egypt? Loan them his magic underpants? Cut their taxes? You`re talking with someone who`d convert to Islam if he thought it would hurt the President.... Liz isn`t all there......

erieangel -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/13/2012 11:14:01 PM)
Wow. Frightening development. Reminds me of the way Hamas came to power. You know, after Bush insisted on free and open elections. And all of a sudden we had a a new enemy. A terrorist regime in power. But that did not in Egypt did it. The Egyptian people made their choices all on their own. Without American interference. They ousted a brutal dictator that was the American puppet and put in place a government they believe will not be a puppet to America. And good for them.

tweakabelle -> RE: Muslim Brotherhood Take Egypt (8/14/2012 12:43:59 AM)
quote: Sanity I full well know the difference between the Sunni and the Shia, and I am obviously more knowledgeable about Islam than yourself or even most others posting here [sm=rofl.gif] [sm=rofl.gif] [sm=rofl.gif] [sm=rofl.gif] [sm=rofl.gif] Yes Sanity my dear. And: [sm=pigsfly.gif]

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