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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/13/2012 5:02:46 PM

tj444

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If you have kept previous emails from me you can reply to them and they will get thru even if my profile is hidden.. but of course you would have to have kept at least one of them..

but I know how you guys are... so you having kept one of them is unlikely..

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/13/2012 5:16:50 PM

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Thank you all for your insights. I'm a guy who was raised to respect women, to have manners, and to be chivalrous. In being a dom it has been difficult to judge if I'm not being to much of a nice guy. I will take a number of these suggestions to heart and utilize them and some I have already done and I feel relieved. As a thank you I will make my best attempts to write a poem proclaiming the wisdom and worth of the submissive and slave. It will not be derogatory or profane, nor will it be overtly sexual. I will post it in the message boards and on my profile for any of you that are interested in it.

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/13/2012 5:49:28 PM

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I like Doms who are gentlemen and chivalrous until they get me naked, bwahahahaha.

Regarding profile length, since I'm a reader, as long as it is well written, there's no such thing as too long for me. After a certain length, I'd want it in Kindle format though

I prefer profiles that are light on the kink and heavy on the vanilla stuff.

I found your profile fairly attractive til you got to the slave part, cuz I'm just not into that, but that's me.

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/13/2012 5:51:20 PM

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I like Doms who are gentlemen and chivalrous until they get me naked, bwahahahaha.

I know, right? :)

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/13/2012 5:51:25 PM

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Not a sub/slave, but my 2 bits is just keep it true to your personality and don't try too hard to make it seem "Domly".

Being polite or not, being overtly sexual or not, being a rampaging asshole or not... no matter which way you go some will like it and some will not.

So since you can never win over everyone, you might as well be true to yourself and hopefully be appealing to the ones that suit your personality best.

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/13/2012 6:18:13 PM

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Thanks for the comments and for viewing my profile you don't how much this means to me. On the slave part I will go back and look at how I worded it. As far as relationships go I'm fairly open and wanting to try everything. I'm a very creative and imaginative guy and all the kinks and ideas women have put out there about it, seem interesting. On many of the women's profiles they include the relationships they desire some quite explicitly. But they are also trying to attract men, and what grabs a man's attention is different than what grabs a women's attention. That's why I started posting here in the first place.

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/13/2012 6:54:07 PM

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I enjoyed reading your profile even more the second time around, so well done on the edits.
What I like about yours is there is a warmth to it, making it more inviting to read further.
This is very contrary to many of the Dominant profiles that seem to be yelling with every keystroke.
Best of luck to you in finding that special someone.

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/13/2012 8:11:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: savageartist

Thank you Kaliko and little wonder. Your serious comments are greatly appreciated.

Why so serious!?

But really. Your pictures remind me of Christopher Nolan's aesthetic for The Dark Knight trilogy. Which is not bad, but it can't be everything. I can see in your facial structure that you have a handsome face. Show the rest of it off. Since you are trying to be discrete, I can understand, but that will cost you some women-votes. They want a man who is proud and true to himself. Take out the "I simply desire to keep..." sentence. It goes without saying that you don't want to show your face on a pervert website, you don't want them feeling judged.

OR... Get a fancy FOR RENT sign. That has my inbox teeming with offers. Cash offers. =\

The introductory paragraph sounds like that heavy monologue from American Beauty: "It was one of those days when it's a minute away from snowing and there's this electricity in the air, you can almost hear it. Right? And this bag was just dancing with me. Like a little kid begging me to play with it. For fifteen minutes. That's the day I realized that there was this entire life behind things, and this incredibly benevolent force that wanted me to know there was no reason to be afraid, ever. Video's a poor excuse, I know. But it helps me remember... I need to remember... Sometimes there's so much beauty in the world, I feel like I can't take it, and my heart is just going to cave in. " In this business, Champ, you need an elevator pitch. Move it lower, or strike it all together. Maybe shorten it to "Our world is so bland when we shut out our senses. I use the inherent sense of danger, taboo, raw energy, and physical chemistry to return the spice back to life." Personally, I read that paragraph and thought.... "So he wants to pain a pearl necklace on my tits. Got it."

Your second paragraph is far better. Here I reproduce it with some edits. I've stripped a lot of your flowery prose, which costs you art points but the impact is stronger and less repetitive. Besides, now you get to use those powerful words to full effect in your poems. Please compare.

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ORIGINAL:

As a person I'm strong and independent, yet respectful and considerate. I'm not arrogant or boisterous, but I am confident and well spoken. In public, I'm probably best described as a gentleman. With friends they get to see a mischievous streak. Opponents see the gentleman before and after, but during they see a highly competitive, aggressive, (and depending on the type of competition) even brutal opponent. With women in public I am the gentleman, a romantic, an intellectual, but behind closed doors? Well, that depends on the woman, but I can promise this I will be a respectful, trustworthy, and considerate Dom and Master. I want a woman with whom I can shed this skin of civility and decorum and let loose the beast within me. I want a woman who I can be my complete self with and with whom I can let out all the darker elements that I keep hidden. As far as the type of relationship I would prefer I'm really open to just about any type, it is the woman that is important, what type of relationship we have will be what we have. Beauty is what it is and I have an higher than average appreciation for it but the same can be said for intelligence and creativity.

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BAMBIED:

I'm strong, independent, confident and well spoken. In public, I'm a gentleman: romantic and intellectual. Looking close you can see a mischievous streak. I'm searching for that woman with whom I can shed my mannered decorum and let loose the beast within me, while still being respectful, trustworthy, and considerate. I want a woman who I can be my complete self with: Both the classy and darker sides.

I want to build a relationship with input from my partner. Beauty is whatever it is, and I need someone who can share my appreciation that our life together is beautiful because we made it that way.

I get the feeling you're rather in shape? If you are, put your weight and a body picture, no face.

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/13/2012 10:06:05 PM

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Thanks alot! All of you have been tremendously helpful and I appreciate everything. I like to write but I write too much or I get too hung p in what I'm try to say, Bambiboi your edits and suggestions are greatespecially the first paragraph. I was so hung up on saying what I wasn't, I was losing what I was. I guess I didn't trust the power of words nor did I trust the reader. Thank you very much.

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/14/2012 1:57:14 PM

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This is a question primarily for females submissives and slaves?

What are you looking for in a profile?
something that captures me
Should the profile contain alot of information? or should it be short and to the point?
if its useless drival I wont read anymore, if useful, tis good
if its about all he has acquired, ie toys or cars, etc then i find it boasting and pride in material possessions is a turnoff
How descriptive should it be? How explicit should it be?
just make it about you. I hate the rant profiles...such negativity is a turn off

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/15/2012 11:58:23 AM

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When I was single, I preferred profiles that gave me a real sense of the person. It didn't need to drag on and on, but one or two lines didn't cut it. I wanted to know their thoughts on life, their hobbies, their views on D/s. If the profile was all about kink, I wasn't interested. Any demand for a title was an automatic no.

Basically, be yourself. Treat it like a relationship resume. What should a potential sub know about you, both as a person and a partner? Be charming, intelligent and easily approachable. She will want to know more.

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/15/2012 5:41:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: savageartist

This is a question primarily for females submissives and slaves?

What are you looking for in a profile?
Should the profile contain alot of information? or should it be short and to the point?
How descriptive should it be? How explicit should it be?

Your profile looks fine.

You just need patience for the right girl with similar interests to get in touch with you.

Sometimes, being very detailed is a double edge sword. I notice that the more detailed I get, the less interest I garner, because the more detailed and specific you get, the more you would have eliminated possibilities.

But I am happy with it that way now, so I don't have to go through the whole energy of getting to know someone and then didn't really match.

I also can tell fairly quickly if someone never read my profile.

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/16/2012 8:47:08 PM

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If you pretend to be an arrogant SOB because you believe that's what subs want, then what happens when you relax and stop playing that part? If that's the kind of idiot that attracted her, then you'll have to pretend all the time to keep her. Plus you'll know she doesn't like you because she doesn't know you.

Men here outnumber women at least 10 to 1. Most of us get so much unsolicited mail that we will reject you for tiny things, just as a way to screen out all those emails. We don't reply with thanks but no thanks because when we did, what we received in return was just plain nastiness.

Your best bet is to meet people in your local community who hopefully will like you for yourself. Just like any other relationship.

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/17/2012 1:58:52 AM

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In a Dominant Profile I would like to see what they are about, what they do (vaguely) outside of the lifestyle and a decent insight into what life would be like with them (and I don't mean some ridiculous wank fantasy about being chained up in the basement)
If i get a message from a Dominant who's profile is blank I will message them back and ask what they are looking for and why they messaged me.

Some people are adverse to the old cock shot (and to a certain degree so am I) but I like knowing what I could possibly be dealing with.
Mind you when it comes to cock shots, I do prefer them not to be the first or even second photo on the profile because that gives me the immediate indication that all they want is their cock sucked (vanilla guys are like that too) which means that person is not a viable candidate to be in my life.

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/17/2012 6:00:08 AM

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Thank you for all your comments they have been very insightful. I don't like trying to be anyone but myself. A big part of me is being a gentelman and acting with respect towards others. This plays into why I wanted guidance here, I wanted to know what the manners and expectations are in the lifestyle and how submissives/slaves etc looked at a master/mistress/dom. Part of being a gentleman is knowing how to act properly and respectfully in social situations. As a dominant I'm still learning about the lifestyle myself and the fluid ever chaging nature of it.

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/18/2012 5:56:37 PM

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My Sir still has His original profile posted. His thoughtful, well articulated description of His style and philosophy of Dominance is what attracted me and caused me to contact Him. I like that he spoke about the mind's part in WIITWD and that He expects to learn from His sub. He showed depth, humility and an open-mindedness that I liked. All that with a certain arrogance. Yum.

It's over 6 years later and we're still going strong (living together now). It's CuffKinks - if you want to read it and can't find His name in my sig line.

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 8/20/2012 12:40:55 AM

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What are you looking for in a profile?

A feel for someone's personality.

Should the profile contain alot of information? or should it be short and to the point?

Long profiles bug me. So do long activities and kink lists. Don't know what to say except: make it long enough to express your personality.

How descriptive should it be?

It should tell where you live, how old you are, what your orientation is, what you are seeking. (Obviously, everyone's profile already does that much.) Pictures are a plus (even just a mountain, or a pet). So are journal entries. I always look at a person's forum posts. I think most of the nitty gritty details should be saved for email. A profile should give a taste of your personality, but be it short and to the point.

How explicit should it be?

Avoid cock shots. As for talking about explicit things, I'd say that depends on your personality.

A good profile resembles the interesting conversation you have with the person standing next to you in the check out line. You don't learn their whole life story, but you find out enough to make you want to get their number.

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 9/2/2012 6:45:57 AM

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Greetings

I refer profiles that have allot of information, however I prefer some of that information if not most of it to be about non kink related things, do this Dom like music, what movies do he or she like, what are his or her religious views such things are much more important to me than what they like to do kinkwise for we can get to that later.

I wish you well

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 9/2/2012 8:22:54 AM

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I want to know about the person. I don't want a "fetish list profile". I don't want some half assed erotica attempt. I just want to know who you are as a person and why you are here. From there, isn't about time to write a message and get to know someone more? I don't need the whole of your life and lifestyle experience on display, but I do want enough to get a glimpse of your personality and tastes. I want to have a degree of understanding as far as what you think and what you believe. I hope this helps.

SD

This.

I'm seeking some sense of humor also. A dry profile leaves me dry. I'm seeking some personality, not a feeling that you're a Role that seeks another role.

I dont mind a profile without a picture, mine doesnt have one. Of course, pictures of people clouded in half darkness, semi mysterious, leaves me a bitter after taste.....and how not to mention about the cock and bound women pictures :)

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RE: profiles and the opinions of subs or slaves - 9/3/2012 4:57:16 AM

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I have been lurking in this thread.... saw the changes, liked what I saw. You will go far, young padawan.

Seriously, you did good. And your journal entries are awesome. Poetry isn't exactly my thing, prose is more my style, but you get the message across in an elegant way completely fitting with your personality and style.

Blessed be,

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