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Aswad -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 10:03:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

Dude! Not only am I not smart enough to understand you. I don't even think I'm smart enough to read that post *laughs*. I'm assuming you have about 62 degrees and an IQ that can only be expressed in 4 dimensions?


Actually, I don't have any degrees at all. The school system here was too stifling. I would almost go so far as to blame it for my chronic depression.

As for IQ, I wouldn't know. The only test I ever took wasn't suitable for measuring above the 98th percentile.

IWYW,
— Aswad.





LadyHibiscus -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 10:06:13 AM)

Kana? The anti-Satan.




Aswad -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 10:08:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

As always, Aswad... a pleasure.


Just knowing you're there is one, too. [;)]

IWYW,
— Aswad.





GreedyTop -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 10:10:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Kana? The anti-Satan.


yep yep!!

(and I agree with Aswad... knowing Sunny is around makes me smile!!)




DomKen -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 10:31:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

Dude! Not only am I not smart enough to understand you. I don't even think I'm smart enough to read that post *laughs*. I'm assuming you have about 62 degrees and an IQ that can only be expressed in 4 dimensions?


Actually, I don't have any degrees at all. The school system here was too stifling. I would almost go so far as to blame it for my chronic depression.

As for IQ, I wouldn't know. The only test I ever took wasn't suitable for measuring above the 98th percentile.

IWYW,
— Aswad.



You can find tests online that will measure well past the 98th (IQ 132). Might be hard to find one that's accurate beyond the 99.9th percentile (150 IQ). The Triple Nine Society has a list of tests they consider accurate for identifying IQ's higher than 150 but they all require testing under observed and controlled conditions.




GreedyTop -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 10:41:57 AM)

Ken? HOnestly, I have never gotten the impression that Aswad gives a rats ass about how he scores on those (to me) arbitrary tests.

Based on his posting history, I personally consider him to be one of the brightest, most coherent, and informed people here. I have yet to see him post on a subject where he is NOT well versed and (intelligently) eloquent.

To me, one of the signs of intelligence is knowing when one does NOT know about a subject. Aswad, as far as I have seen (and I DO follow his posts) has not yet said anything that is not well-informed and/or researched on any thread he has posted on.

I only wish others would follow his example (Including myself - and not aimed at anyone else).

Hope that made sense!!




JeffBC -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 10:42:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
There is a faction that says Satan created fossils. Which is fabulously skilled, since the modern Satan is a medieval creation.

Well shoot! Why are we speculating. Why don't we just go ask Kana? You know... the neighbor of the beast mr. 667. Surely if the devil were up to creating dinosaur bones in his backyard Kana'd have seen him.




Aswad -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 10:50:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

I adore Aswad. I would happily cougar him if (a) he wasn't attached, (b) he wasn't so friggin far away, (c) I felt I could even come close to the same level of intelligence (and despite appearances to the contrary, I am NOT a dull crayon!!), and (d) our "lifestyle" (god I hate that term) styles weren't so radically different.


Actually, the distance is usually the main obstacle.

Long story short, we do the open relationship thing and are open to the idea of poly with a sub, switch or domme. I don't need permission to bring pets into the household, human or otherwise, but adding a romantic partner to the relationship requires that Ars and the new person actually fall for each other. That isn't easy to predict, and might take a long time to sort out. Sadly, both Norway and the USA have visa policies that make it difficult for someone to stay long enough to figure things out, except if the candidate is from Australia or the EU.

Secret: my beard has been trimmed back since the picture was taken, and my hair is gray enough for someone twenty years older.

IWYW,
— Aswad.





GreedyTop -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 10:54:09 AM)

Would it help that I have family in Norway?? *grin*

wait!! how are you defining lots of grey????




DomKen -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 10:56:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

Ken? HOnestly, I have never gotten the impression that Aswad gives a rats ass about how he scores on those (to me) arbitrary tests.

Based on his posting history, I personally consider him to be one of the brightest, most coherent, and informed people here. I have yet to see him post on a subject where he is NOT well versed and (intelligently) eloquent.

To me, one of the signs of intelligence is knowing when one does NOT know about a subject. Aswad, as far as I have seen (and I DO follow his posts) has not yet said anything that is not well-informed and/or researched on any thread he has posted on.

I only wish others would follow his example (Including myself - and not aimed at anyone else).

Hope that made sense!!

I wasn't attacking him or anything. He said he'd never been tested with a test accurate in the genius range and I told him how he could get tested if he wanted.




GreedyTop -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 10:58:42 AM)

I know that, Ken.. I just wanted it stated before anyone came in with the ZOMG but how does he KNOW reaction :) LOL




vincentML -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 11:00:52 AM)

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Creationism, to me, is the religious equivalent of one form of the anthropic principle. The universe got the exquisitely narrow set of parameters that could sustain life, not by chance, but because its purpose is to host life. A purpose that comes from the being whose name one might liberally translate "existence itself is my identity".


There is something slippery about your proposition. Perhaps you can help me understand it better. Creationism, imo, is a theocentric concept in which God made the Universe 'just right' to support life. Creationists promote Divine Design. On the other hand and as the term implies the anthropic principle is antropocentric. The 'exquisitely narrow set of parameters that could sustain life' are what they are only because life evolved here. It is the existence of life that gives authority to the parameters. If there are other universes, and there may well be, different forms of life may have evolved under a different set of physical parameters, and so those different parameters are exquisitely narrow as well. The anthropic principle holds that the fine tuning of this universe is not so remarkable. I doubt that a creationist would agree with that. What do you think?




FrostedFlake -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 11:27:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: FrostedFlake

You have done so well so far, how bout you poke a hole in my theory that the universe is actually a black hole, viewed from inside.


Current findings seem to suggest that the universe changed its macroscopic dimensionality at some point in the past. Something about the polarization of the cosmic microwave background, if memory serves. This also makes intuitive sense: more dimensions for the same energy content gives you less tension, and I'm fairly certain it results in less entropy. Imagine an explosion between a pair of plates. At first, the pressure moves rapidly outwards in a plane, then the plates buckle and the pressure gets to expand in three dimensions instead of two.

I'm not aware of work done in regard to it, but if the timing coincides, such a change could perhaps account for the transition from the inflationary epoch to the calmer universe we see today. This because the reduced tension would show up as a change in the cosmological constant at the point in time when the dimensionality changes. If remaining tension is in the right range, this might also lead to a future change in dimensionality. Of course, this is just idle speculation, and I don't have a particular grasp of mathematics, physics or cosmology, so take it for what it is.

Anyway, if the dimensionality has changed, that does not seem to be in accordance with your black hole hypothesis. A black hole is for causal purposes a two dimensional surface in our universe. In a higher dimensionality universe, one might of course envision a black hole forming with a three dimensional causal surface. However, the internal dimensionality has no reason to change, to the best of my knowledge. The tension is fixed by the gravitational mass of the black hole, and the shape is set by the initial conditions during its collapse. As such, I would not expect to see any indication of such a change.

Seeing as there are indications of such a change, I would say I've poked a hole in your hypothesis. Not necessarily a goatse class hole, but certainly there are testable predictions that follow from the hypothesis, and there appears to be more in favor of it being false than it being validated. Again, I'm not qualified to address it, but to the extent that I'm able, I would tend to reject it as being "probably false" as a hypothesis on which to base a model of our universe- physically or metaphysically.

Entertaining idea, but it didn't keep me busy very long. [:D]

IWYW,
— Aswad.



That's pretty good, but, I am not so sure it amounts to more than a divot. A Black hole is a bend in or disruption of spacetime to an infinite degree. Infinity is a flexible number that need not remain the same. It worth noting just where in cosmological time the inflationary epoch is postulated to have occurred.

Cite : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_(cosmology)

10 to the -36 seconds is an exceedingly short time scale. For comparison, the orbital frequency of a hydrogen electron is 6.6 x 10 to the 15. If there were a hydrogen atom in existence at the beginning of time, it would not have time to complete a single orbit prior to the commencement of the inflationary epoch. Or, for that matter, prior to the end of that epoch. It is essentially indistinguishable from the Big Bang immediately preceding. It could be argued that the scale of the Big Bang was infinite and that the inflation raised that infinity to another infinity roughly 10 to the 78th larger. This would require no energy, because infinity equals infinity even when it doesn't and spacetime has no mass. To put that another way, The Big Bang and the inflationary period need not be interpreted as separate events. And either or both could easily be called a change in macroscopic dimensionality.

Moving on, there is the untidy fact that preceding and following the inflationary epoch the cosmological constant was not constant, nor is it today, and inflation itself has always been identified as an exception to the allegedly constant cosmological constant. From this it follows directly that there may very well be no cosmological constant. I offer tentative explanation for this apparent dimensional instability by pointing at asymmetry in the structure of the parent star of this particular Universe, pre Big Bang. Asymmetry which also neatly accounts for the asymmetry of the Cosmic background radiation and the tendency matter has shown to coalesce into stars, galaxies, clusters, superclusters, filaments and larger structures while evacuating immense voids in between.

I hope that patched the hole you poked in mine.




Rule -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 12:06:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
You can find tests online that will measure well past the 98th (IQ 132). Might be hard to find one that's accurate beyond the 99.9th percentile (150 IQ). The Triple Nine Society has a list of tests they consider accurate for identifying IQ's higher than 150 but they all require testing under observed and controlled conditions.

I have a low IQ. I am impressed by high IQ. But I also know that high IQ people have limited intellects, whereas mine is nearly unlimited. I can solve problems they cannot, which they do not even suspect exist.




Rule -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 12:12:51 PM)

These are senseless - passtimes - discussions. There never was a Big Bang; and consequently there never was any inflation.




GreedyTop -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 12:19:27 PM)

Rule... seriously.. your mama lied to you. You are NOT a special snowflake with ultra smarts!! You are average, at best (and I am being generous)




littlewonder -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 12:22:27 PM)

Igor, scroll back and read what Aswad wrote about reading the bible with reflection and reason. I don't feel like typing what he has already written for me lol. I'm just gonna let him talk for me. [8D]

Hey, what can I say? The man speaks much more eloquently than me.




littlewonder -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 12:23:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
There is a faction that says Satan created fossils. Which is fabulously skilled, since the modern Satan is a medieval creation.

Well shoot! Why are we speculating. Why don't we just go ask Kana? You know... the neighbor of the beast mr. 667. Surely if the devil were up to creating dinosaur bones in his backyard Kana'd have seen him.



They're in Master's closet. [X(]




FrostedFlake -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 12:50:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rule

These are senseless - passtimes - discussions. There never was a Big Bang; and consequently there never was any inflation.

Thanks, Rule.

That straightens that out.




vincentML -> RE: Dinosaurs (8/14/2012 1:14:31 PM)

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Moving on, there is the untidy fact that preceding and following the inflationary epoch the cosmological constant was not constant, nor is it today, and inflation itself has always been identified as an exception to the allegedly constant cosmological constant. From this it follows directly that there may very well be no cosmological constant. I offer tentative explanation for this apparent dimensional instability by pointing at asymmetry in the structure of the parent star of this particular Universe, pre Big Bang. Asymmetry which also neatly accounts for the asymmetry of the Cosmic background radiation and the tendency matter has shown to coalesce into stars, galaxies, clusters, superclusters, filaments and larger structures while evacuating immense voids in between


Drat! Now I shall have to read Caleb Scharf's book. I hope it is "readable" and understandable.




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