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Things you can't do in America - 8/16/2012 7:45:32 PM   
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From the New York Times

Jews Awarded Damages In California Hotel Case
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SANTA MONICA, Calif. — A jury here put the total price tag for what it held to be an anti-Semitic episode at the Hotel Shangri-La at about $1.6 million on Thursday. The award includes about $1.2 million in compensatory damages and more than $400,000 in punitive damages.


The compensatory award was disclosed in court late Wednesday after a week of deliberations in a case in which the proprietor, Tehmina Adaya, was accused of violating a California civil rights law by trying to evict a Jewish group in 2010. The punitive damages were awarded Thursday.

The trial, which had been under way in the Superior Court of Los Angeles County since late last month, raised rare claims of anti-Semitism in this beach city.

In 2010, Ms. Adaya, who is a Pakistani-born Muslim, ordered the closing of a poolside event sponsored by Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, but she eventually allowed the group to stay after insisting that signs and literature identifying its purpose be removed.


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RE: Things you can't do in America - 8/17/2012 6:22:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
From the New York Times
Jews Awarded Damages In California Hotel Case
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SANTA MONICA, Calif. — A jury here put the total price tag for what it held to be an anti-Semitic episode at the Hotel Shangri-La at about $1.6 million on Thursday. The award includes about $1.2 million in compensatory damages and more than $400,000 in punitive damages.
The compensatory award was disclosed in court late Wednesday after a week of deliberations in a case in which the proprietor, Tehmina Adaya, was accused of violating a California civil rights law by trying to evict a Jewish group in 2010. The punitive damages were awarded Thursday.
The trial, which had been under way in the Superior Court of Los Angeles County since late last month, raised rare claims of anti-Semitism in this beach city.
In 2010, Ms. Adaya, who is a Pakistani-born Muslim, ordered the closing of a poolside event sponsored by Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, but she eventually allowed the group to stay after insisting that signs and literature identifying its purpose be removed.

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$1.6M?!? Not that I'm saying she was in the right, but dayum, that sure seems to be a bit high for a penalty. Was the damages incurred really $1.6M?!?

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RE: Things you can't do in America - 8/17/2012 6:50:27 AM   
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Welcome to America.


$1.6M?!? Not that I'm saying she was in the right, but dayum, that sure seems to be a bit high for a penalty. Was the damages incurred really $1.6M?!?


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RE: Things you can't do in America - 8/17/2012 6:52:13 AM   
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Welcome to America.


$1.6M?!? Not that I'm saying she was in the right, but dayum, that sure seems to be a bit high for a penalty. Was the damages incurred really $1.6M?!?


Time for some McDonalds coffee



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RE: Things you can't do in America - 8/17/2012 5:29:25 PM   
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I know a guy, 20 years old, who was recently awarded an $8 million settlement against our county child social services office because he was sexually and physically abused while in foster care. The kid's lawyer is now going after the foster home and the case worker personally who did not protect him.

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RE: Things you can't do in America - 8/17/2012 6:16:13 PM   
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its about time we get some gubafia accountability.

sink their fucking cash cows one by one.

good for him!

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RE: Things you can't do in America - 8/17/2012 7:07:54 PM   
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I know a guy, 20 years old, who was recently awarded an $8 million settlement against our county child social services office because he was sexually and physically abused while in foster care. The kid's lawyer is now going after the foster home and the case worker personally who did not protect him.


Often these awards are not about the actual damages.. but more about sending out a clear message that this behavior will not be tolerated.

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RE: Things you can't do in America - 8/17/2012 7:41:26 PM   
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Unless you can coach a National Championship defense of course.......

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RE: Things you can't do in America - 8/17/2012 11:44:22 PM   
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I know a guy, 20 years old, who was recently awarded an $8 million settlement against our county child social services office because he was sexually and physically abused while in foster care. The kid's lawyer is now going after the foster home and the case worker personally who did not protect him.


Often these awards are not about the actual damages.. but more about sending out a clear message that this behavior will not be tolerated.



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RE: Things you can't do in America - 8/17/2012 11:53:38 PM   
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Intresting. I'd like to see the actual reasoning and facts (as far as they can be determined). In my personal view its fine not to be a fan of the IDF as oposed to being anti-jew which is a whole nother thing.

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RE: Things you can't do in America - 8/18/2012 12:04:25 AM   
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its about time people start tapping into their cash cows.

its not like they have not robbed enough people through bullshit legoooese

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RE: Things you can't do in America - 8/18/2012 12:14:30 AM   
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Welcome to america, we love you!

Things you can't do in America


only a complete fucking asshelmet tard could say this is the land of the free with a straight face.

~Loving Gubafia


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RE: Things you can't do in America - 8/18/2012 12:25:55 AM   
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Hmmm.

Would you prefer an Anarchy? Not that I agree with all the rules you have in the US or all the ones we have in the Uk (I have spent some time in the offices of my elected representative persuding him to vote against one stupid peice of legislation or another). However I bumped into a Dutch girl the other day that lives in the UK because its so much more free than her homeland. This made me stop and think a bit. Then I had a long chat with a Russian whose favorite band got locked up recently for protesting the government.

I'm not saying we shouldnt protest and grief and push when OUR freedoms are eroded, we DAMN well should. However there are nations where you wouldnt be allowed to post a thread of the same type about your homeland.

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RE: Things you can't do in America - 8/18/2012 12:37:19 AM   
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Intresting. I'd like to see the actual reasoning and facts (as far as they can be determined). In my personal view its fine not to be a fan of the IDF as oposed to being anti-jew which is a whole nother thing.


Absolutely.

Sadly, since its inception the Govt of Israel and its cheerleaders have put a lot of effort into promoting the fanciful notion that any criticism of Israel is and can only be anti-Semitic, for obvious political purposes. Despite the patent stupidity and obvious self-interest (not to mention the racism) inherent in the claim, it seems that they have been successful in persuading some of the more gullible sections of US society, much to the disadvantage of the US's own interests.

Thankfully more and more of those duped are beginning to see through this nonsense.

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RE: Things you can't do in America - 8/18/2012 12:56:17 AM   
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Hmmm.

Would you prefer an Anarchy?
I'm not saying we shouldnt protest and grief and push when OUR freedoms are eroded, we DAMN well should. However there are nations where you wouldnt be allowed to post a thread of the same type about your homeland.



you got your wires crossed.

the legislature cannot make ANY fuckgin law what so ever that does not violate my rights.

typical backwards assed aristocratic version of anarchy.

anarchy is not lack of gubafia, its lack of law.

gubafia is not law.

law comes from decisions of the court, BY JURY that judges both the LAW AND THE FACTS, not some asswipe in a fucking black robe.


The only thing needed is a body of case law created by those jurys each case individual based on INJURY IN EQUITY AND LAW not arbitrary rules and legislative fiat bullshit.


All statutes have no business being ANYTHING more than advisory.


Its so fucking easy to prove america is totally feudal it fucking ridiculous.



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well thanks for setting me fucking FREE by incorporating me into a fucking body politic that has 63 million fucking laws and ignorance of the law is not excuse and a fucking court system that is like a god damned labyrinth of complete horseshit with remedy only if you have a few million laying around.

















freedom, liberty, yeh tell me all the fuck about it.


bunch of fucking retards in this country


you got the freedom to bend your ass over hand over your wallet and crack a smile!







yeh thats what I call freedom!







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oh yeh I would prefer anarchy




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RE: Things you can't do in America - 8/18/2012 1:55:02 AM   
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Expatriate ? Yes I ntend to, maybe next year or the year after if I live. If I die first I will not.

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RE: Things you can't do in America - 8/18/2012 3:56:55 AM   
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Intresting. I'd like to see the actual reasoning and facts (as far as they can be determined). In my personal view its fine not to be a fan of the IDF as oposed to being anti-jew which is a whole nother thing.


Absolutely.

Sadly, since its inception the Govt of Israel and its cheerleaders have put a lot of effort into promoting the fanciful notion that any criticism of Israel is and can only be anti-Semitic, for obvious political purposes. Despite the patent stupidity and obvious self-interest (not to mention the racism) inherent in the claim, it seems that they have been successful in persuading some of the more gullible sections of US society, much to the disadvantage of the US's own interests.

Thankfully more and more of those duped are beginning to see through this nonsense.



Didn't you know that Israel can do no wrong??

In some people's eyes anyway.

Ironically, I said that in front my sister in brother-in-law one day and went on to give my opinion that the US position that Israel can do no wrong is exactly what led to 9/11 and it started a huge argument with my ex-army brother-in-law. But he also believes that war is good for the economy.

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