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RE: New cat problem - 8/19/2012 7:47:59 PM

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Nothing quite so amusing, no. Rather sad, actually.

Two recently abandoned cats wore down and killed a sheep while the farmer watched enthusiastically. When their heroic efforts had succeeded and they started reaping their reward, he shot both of them. Then he went on to brag about how cool the whole thing had been, and how he wished he had caught more of it on video. Note that he didn't so much as try to save the sheep, and will be totally compensated, including lost business opportunity, so it's not a question of protecting his herd or his livelihood. Just his way to repay a once in a lifetime experience that he really liked, I guess. The owners picked up new cats when they got back from their vacation.

As usual, only the animals lose, and all of them do. Norway in a nutshell.

That being said, I have encountered a cat that would have suited a horned helmet quite perfectly. I'm almost certain it was a cat. The shape and color is strongly indicative of that. The size, however, should only occur in a lynx. I didn't much feel like having a closer look at the time. Darn thing stared down a rottweiller, and I can easily picture it taking down a deer unaided, of which we have a fair bit here. Doesn't really match either housecats or lynxes, though. Brings to mind the H. S. Thompson quote that Kana uses in his sig here: «There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.»

Cats that took the sheep (singular, obviously) were regular housecats, though.

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RE: New cat problem - 8/19/2012 8:14:09 PM

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Was this a weakened or small sheep? I am trying NOT to picture the event, but I've been around sheep, and unless a cat went for the air supply, it wouldn't be an easy kill. Though evidently it was a lengthy, grisly, event with much bleating and yowling?

Tragic.

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RE: New cat problem - 8/19/2012 9:12:48 PM

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I'm thinking air supply. Still, an impressive feat for a pair of abandoned cats.

And, yes, tragic sums up how I feel about it, too.

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 2:55:20 AM

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Wow, I thought they might have startled it and the sheep fell off a cliff or something like that. Not too far away from here are sheep I regularly feed and who are very tame now (actually, they are more than tame, they are so used to getting fed that anybody walking across the field gets surrounded by sheep, way blocked and if they carry a bag that gets frisked, a bit like modern daylight robbery by sheep) and they are really big, I mean they are bigger than my dogs and when it comes to food they take no prisoners, both dogs now bark at them after having been headbutted out of the way a few times.

Sheep are easily startled but contrary to common belief not overly placid (I've been bruised a few times by a gentle nip or kick when I wasn't fast enough doling food out), I think their average weight is around 200 lbs... Having said that, I googled for sheep killed by cats and apparently it happens a lot in the UK and especially Wales has a problem with that, however the cats seem to be big cats:

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More recently, there have also been sightings around Merthyr, with one farmer claiming to have found half a sheep up a tree.

Big cat consultant and expert tracker Danny Nineham is adamant that rural Wales is home to a number of the predators.

He said: “There are a lot of big cats in West Wales. I’ve seen them myself and investigated a number of sightings.

“We’ve got leopards, black leopards or panthers, pumas, American bobcats, you name it.”

Read More http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/need-to-read/2012/05/11/video-is-this-the-clearest-evidence-yet-that-a-big-cat-is-roaming-welsh-hills-91466-30949549/#ixzz244vdVzLh

To get half a sheep up into a tree, it would have to be a really big cat who would possibly eat Greebo as a snack...

As for the farmer who filmed it, woah, what a bastard! Watching an animal get killed for fun? And people abandoning cats for their vacation and then getting new ones.. There must be a special place in hell for them!

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 3:13:49 AM

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I decided to call him Greebo because despite his looks, being called Hitler is a bit too much for a cat...

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 3:37:03 AM

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He is an evil looking little bastard...

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 3:41:34 AM

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AWWWW!! I think he's gorgeous!

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 3:47:10 AM

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As you can see, he has taken over the garage...

He looks so tiny because he's skinny as hell, but he's actually a really big cat, H with his sunny humour found out that offering him a one of the cat treat sticks makes him raise the right paw... errr, well since he has those particular markings, H is arguing with me that we should call him Fuehrer or Adolf, I'm sticking with Greebo...

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 5:30:16 AM

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He is an evil looking little bastard...

I knew him from before he got reincarnated as a cat:

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 12:52:02 PM

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He is an evil looking little bastard...

OMG on this pic he looks really evil....the big opposit to my spicy...who moved in but now moved out here 5 weeks ago

Maybe your new addition would make that as well...you take him on...go through the hassles of a pet passport for him....move into another country...that then he decides "thank you for that trip but I found a better home now...take care"

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 12:53:30 PM

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Seeing his picture I am grateful that curry can behave how he looks like but thankfully does not look like....*shudder*

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 1:01:29 PM

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He is an evil looking little bastard...

he doesnt look evil to me,.. he just looks unhappy cuz he has had a hard life.. so I can understand why he doesnt "smile"..

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 1:02:45 PM

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He is an evil looking little bastard...

He really does look ferocious!

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 1:40:41 PM

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I think their average weight is around 200 lbs...

Wow, I think the average here is about half that.

In any case, I went back to check now, and we're apparently talking about two large male cats and either a lamb or a young ewe (I had to look this one up in the dictionary). Which puts the cats at 15lbs, give or take, and the sheep at maybe 80lbs at most. Still an impressive feat, though. As you say, these creatures aren't as nice and quiet as they tend to get credit for, and domestic cats are hardly supposed to go after anything their own size. Heck, most cats will dodge a crow if they've ever tried to catch one.

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To get half a sheep up into a tree, it would have to be a really big cat who would possibly eat Greebo as a snack...

Yeah, that takes a fair bit of pull, and cats don't have clavicles. Which leaves using the mouth or some ingenuity.

I'd hate to see what made that cat figure it would be a good idea.

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There must be a special place in hell for them!

If not, I'll dig a new pit. Dante: the Special Appendix.

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 1:55:02 PM

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About five or ten years ago I noticed a very weird feline. I was in a bus that drove past a field strewn with yellow corn stalks. Between them, presumably unnoticed by anyone else in the crowded bus, lay a huge yellow cat, perfectly camouflaged, unmoving, and I would have sworn that it looked straight into my eyes. Because of the distance I could not estimate its size, but it may have been lynx sized. (We do not have lynxes in The Netherlands and certainly not in the west.) I had the impression that it was something alien - and I did shiver.

I will always wonder about that feline.

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 3:20:27 PM

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I will always wonder about that feline.

Yeah, I'll always wonder about the monster cat I saw here, too. Ain't supposed to be no cats that size and shape, and a hybrid is only a theoretical possibility so far, having never been discovered in the wild. A small, patient lynx could in theory be mounted by a large domestic cat, but it's never occured as far as I know. If it did happen, and offspring were to result, it would look something like my mysterious monster cat. But that's as implausible as a domestic cat that size, or a lynx that shape and color.

In any case, cats are amazing creatures.

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 3:32:12 PM

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Of course there are also the

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British big cats, also referred to as ABCs (Alien, or Anomalous, Big Cats), phantom cats and mystery cats, are Felidae which are not native to Britain which are reported to inhabit the British countryside. These sightings are often reported as "panthers", "pumas", or "black cats". Their existence is unproven

My own take on those is that they are cryptozoic feral cats, who are unrelated to domestic cats.
If ever one was found or caught, it would be interesting to obtain their DNA profile.

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 3:46:16 PM

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He is an evil looking little bastard...

He really does look ferocious!

Got the scars... But I think once he puts a bit of weight on he'll look less intimidating, can't do much about the markings though unfortunately that makes him look a lot like this guy

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 3:47:28 PM

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If not, I'll dig a new pit. Dante: the Special Appendix.

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I bring a shovel along and help you

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RE: New cat problem - 8/20/2012 4:37:38 PM

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I bring a shovel along and help you

We'll have to talk to Kana about a permit, though, and whether we'll need to use union labor.

Plus, we need a pack of crypto cats running around to keep the inmates in line.

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