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RE: Sadism & Power exchange. - 8/20/2012 11:00:08 AM   
ChatteParfaitt


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As you could understand, many dominants don't care for that wolf-like reflex in a "pet."


I can soooo relate, b/c I *have* gone there, with predictable results.

I don't get anyone who wants to inflict pain but wants the person to accept it quietly, but then I'm all about the reaction and response. I *want* the reaction and response. Even if I command "Be quiet," it's because I want to see the struggle to be obedient battle it out with the need to scream with pain or moan with pleasure.

So, what can I say? I don't get those people, but then there are many, many people little ole me is *never* going to get.

I love your posts, bb, so don't take my response as criticism, just my opinion, please.





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RE: Sadism & Power exchange. - 8/20/2012 11:27:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kana

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D/s and sadism aren't entirely separate in our relationship - I would say he would still want to dom me without the sadism, but wouldn't want to hurt me without the D/s element behind it.


Oh ko. This is beautiful. I wish I had written it. I wanna steal it


You can have it, I'm flattered.

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I recognize that my findings are anecdotal and limited to my experiences. My relationships never lasted with dominants who wanted to inflict pain but have me accept it like a bad action movie henchman who cuts off his own finger to exhibit his obedience. It's good to see other people have tops that are both dominant and sadistic who don't mind the uncontrolled physical reaction.

I can't do it, though. After a few bruise-bringing spanks I am ready for a net shift in roles. Normally I want to please, and a dominant does not have to continually establish dominance over me. But strike me too hard and you'll have to use wits, strength, or leverage to retain your dominance. The will to please is replaced with a hunger to make things balanced. But by balanced I mean me standing up, grabbing the top by the throat, and saying "kneel" with all the charm of Hades. So, in a way, I skip subspace and go straight to top-space. It's never gotten to that, I'd probably safe-word out first, but the thought has been there.

As you could understand, many dominants don't care for that wolf-like reflex in a "pet."



Bambi - you know I haven't considered that I have a switchy bone in my body since I met His Lordship, but your posts stir something in me, like some half-forgotten dream. I love almost everything you say, even when I disagree with it.

This has been an interesting thread, some very enlightening posts.

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RE: Sadism & Power exchange. - 8/20/2012 11:55:24 AM   
BambiBoi


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Status: offline 		I agree with you, Chatte, about the entertainment that can be derived from watching a bottom struggle to keep their composure. When I top, I have a cute trick up my sleeve. I use a strawberry as a ball gag, and request that the bottom not bruise or damage my strawberry. Funishment for failure or reward for keeping the fruit intact will be fun either way the cookie crumbles.

I never take anything personally here, but appreciate your kind words and mutual respect that the board, most recently ChatteParfaitt and Athena, have shown. I do regret missing the opportunity to use the word "lupine" when I said "wolf-like."

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RE: Sadism & Power exchange. - 8/20/2012 12:11:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BambiBoi

I use a strawberry as a ball gag, and request that the bottom not bruise or damage my strawberry.


Thanks. I'm off to get strawberries.

And capsaicin... and a fine needle... and a syringe.

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RE: Sadism & Power exchange. - 8/20/2012 1:25:16 PM   
CRYPTICLXVI


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ORIGINAL: Kana

Piling on to LP's comments, I also spent lots and lots of time with meditation, eastern philosophy, zen, martial arts and shamanism so I'm pretty familiar with trance states.
Well that, and when I was a kid, I did lots and lots of drugs.
As in so many that I won't discuss it on a public forum lest you think I'm a liar or Keith Richards

PS-LP-I meant "Oh, Dog Piss" as an exclamatory remark of surprise, nothing negative or dubious :-)


Kana, I told you to get the fuck out of my head, Jesus Christ...
Not much into Shamanism, though when I have experienced this initially, I was studying different Tantra traditions, as well as a background in mysticism, a Tibetan Buddhist tradition, kundalini and Western occult... I find topspace to be spiritual, definitely trance like, similar to when I flow during painting but with a more intense edge. I lose track of duration, being more focused on the flow, ebbing, rhythms of the person I am with.
Shrug, physiological reactions tempered by the perspective I was coming from. Lost all sense of self, more focused on the experiential, the reactions... and exhausted, drained almost hollow afterwards.
I know nothing about previous drug experiences when I was younger, nope, not me, nuh uh...

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RE: Sadism & Power exchange. - 8/20/2012 1:57:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kana

I'm such a kind, generous, giving soul. I should be Sanctified.
Selfless Doms unite!


This made me snort laugh.

As for the OP - I think because it's physically, emotionally & sexually enjoyable. Why else does anyone do anything to do with BDSM?






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RE: Sadism & Power exchange. - 8/21/2012 8:11:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sexyred1


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

1 - I spank her ............... et al


Wonders why there are no men like RS in NJ......

Because we are down here in Daytona Beach where your sexy self should be.

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