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kalikshama -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/20/2012 7:46:15 PM)

While I go see if I can find more sources for that, I will leave you with this:


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kalikshama -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/20/2012 7:48:20 PM)

Well, Ann Coulter wants Akin to drop out:

http://patriotupdate.com/28115/conservatives-to-akin-drop-out-now

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Musicmystery -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/20/2012 8:46:25 PM)

I think Akin has probably experienced quite a few female bodies shutting down in his presence.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/20/2012 8:53:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I hate to think you are typical of the left but I sometimes do believe that you are

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

we'll see what those amends are, if he hangs himself, maybe.....



I hate to think you're typical of the Right but I'm sometimes afraid you are.



VideoAdminTheta -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/20/2012 8:56:12 PM)

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kdsub -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/20/2012 9:06:57 PM)

I don't know about that...there is a lot of pressure for Akins to pull out of the race by many Missouri Republican big wigs. We will see tomorrow.

As far as the race and ideas are concerned it will make no difference if he does. Sarah Steelman is just as radical on abortion as Akins. She supports a constitutional amendment saying life begins at conception...against embryonic stem cell research…and is supported by Palin. Steelman co-sponsored legislation to ban partial-birth abortion and sponsored the Adoption Awareness Law.

Don’t even get me started on John Brunner… there is little difference between all three…and they all have more out state support than McCaskill.

Butch



kitkat105 -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/20/2012 10:06:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

You didn't know there's rape versus rape-rape?

Rape Victim Abortion Funding


This was pure gold.

Can I chip a 2/3 penny for a retroactive abortion for Mr Akin?????????



kalikshama -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/21/2012 6:53:09 AM)

'Legitimate rape' comment was not a misstatement. It's a worldview

... It takes a lot of work for a member of the House science committee to cultivate an ignorance of science as profound as Todd Akin’s. It’s not accidental and it’s not incidental to his worldview — his belief system requires a rejection of science.

The thing about science, as astronomer Neil DeGrasse-Tyson says, is that it’s true whether you believe it or not. And the truth is that biology does not care how sperm meets egg, whether it’s within the bounds of a sanctified marriage, in a test tube or after a rape.

One of the great gifts of modern medicine is that we can control when and whether eggs are released (through the pill), whether sperm encounter the egg (condoms or vasectomy), whether a fertilized egg implants in the uterus (IUDs), and yes, whether it stays there (abortion). Trauma may increase the spontaneous miscarriage rate, but the effect is trivial, and tens of thousands of women are impregnated by rape annually.

But if you believe that the Bible is the “inerrant word of God,” as Akin apparently does, given his Master of Divinity from the Covenant Theological Seminary, then you can believe all kinds of things. That the world is 6,000 years old, for instance, and that evolution is a conspiracy organized by pretty much every biologist, geologist, paleontologist, ecologist, biochemist and geneticist working in the past century and a half, plus Satan. If God can produce Jesus through a virgin birth, he can certainly prevent a worthy-enough victim of “legitimate rape” from carrying her rapist’s child.

(And just to be clear, it’s not that he’s up on the latest evolutionary biology speculation about sperm priming and miscarriage. This idea has been bouncing around conservative circles for years as an excuse for defending an absolute ban on abortion.)

Akin and other Missouri conservatives are now trying to perpetuate this massive misinformation campaign on school children. Missouri’s “Right to Pray” amendment, which passed this month, allows kids to opt out of any educational assignments that conflict with their beliefs. As the National Center for Science Education has pointed out, that means children have a legal right to refuse to participate in biology class. Or, presumably, sex ed, where they would have to learn about basic reproductive biology, a class Todd Akin apparently skipped.



slvemike4u -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/21/2012 7:32:34 AM)

This is not a defense,not in the least,the man is an asshole,as a matter of fact Akin just might be posting here under a nick we all know and love [:)],
but I do think his statement concerning legitimate rape was not mean to suggest that there are levels of rape per se,rather the anti abortion fear of the "rape loop hole"
Imagine a world where Roe v Wade has been overturned,in other words a possible outcome of electing Romney /Ryan one in which the only legal abortions performed are those incurred as a result of rape/incest(which in normal households would be a rape,right ?).
Now what does a woman seeking an abortion do,she either has a back alley procedure(god please save our daughters from that eventuality)or claims that she has been raped.This is what Akin,IMO.meant by "legitimate".That if the fundie fear of concession on that point.
Now of course his biology class experience in high school was a waste of time,so there is no defense for his opinions in that quarter



Sanity -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/21/2012 7:34:38 AM)


Were it only so, that the entire right could be so gifted...

And you are not alone. It is not atypical for many a leftists knees to commence to knocking at the mere mention of my name

This Akin guy though, he clearly did fuck up and he is woefully ignorant and wrong about how a womans body works

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
I hate to think you're typical of the Right but I'm sometimes afraid you are.




slvemike4u -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/21/2012 7:38:06 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Were it only so, that the entire right could be so gifted...

And you are not alone. It is not atypical for many a leftists knees to commence to knocking at the mere mention of my name

This Akin guy though, he clearly did fuck up and he is woefully ignorant and wrong about how a womans body works

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
I hate to think you're typical of the Right but I'm sometimes afraid you are.



ROFLMAO.....my knee knocking got so loud around the house that I have been asked not to read threads in which you post.....I solved the problem with knee pads......lol



SlipSlidingAway -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/21/2012 7:47:39 AM)

So, a question for Mr. Akin, or anybody who cares to try to get into his mindset enough to answer.  While he used the word legitimate, and now claims he meant forcible, does his statement not imply that women who DO conceive during rape were not raped enough?

That's what glared out at me when I read it.  If one of those RARE pregnancies occurred, obviously the victim did something to warrant the pregnancy.  After all, such a pregnancy is an abomination, the woman's body has betrayed her if basic biology somehow managed to operate under the premise that sperm+egg+fertile time of month=pregnancy. 

Sure, stress and injury could cause a spontaneous abortion- but he's not saying that.  He's saying it almost always DOES cause lack of implantation or a spontaneous abortion.  How many frickin' people believe this?  It just blew my mind that in this day and age they seem to be intoning that a pregnant rape victim somehow did not muster the required amount of revulsion at the act and/or that she has a defective reproductive system if it occurs.




subspaceseven -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/21/2012 8:03:02 AM)

No the scary thing is this has always been his position, read the bills he and Paul Ryan put on the floor and Willard picks this guy for VP????

What about the rights of the victim... you know the rape victim...seems they care very little for her, as the bill does NOTHING to protect her rights....so what we cut your health care, we get rid of public education, seems the GOP cares about the life while in the womb, but once it is out, they don't give a fuck

as Akin's Gop leader in his state said, "if you are raped and God blesses you with a child, you should be happy" and this is from a woman who leads the GOP in his very sorry state



Sanity -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/21/2012 9:37:09 AM)


Bill Clinton, the keynote speaker at this years DNC convention, could probably clear up any misunderstanding

If anyone understands rape its him

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ORIGINAL: kitkat105


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

You didn't know there's rape versus rape-rape?

Rape Victim Abortion Funding


This was pure gold.

Can I chip a 2/3 penny for a retroactive abortion for Mr Akin?????????




Owner59 -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/21/2012 9:50:41 AM)

No one but the lunatic fringe thinks President Clinton is a rapist.


liz and the nutters are so out of touch that they`d nominate and run bin-laden if they thought he could beat President Obama.



Aswad -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/21/2012 3:24:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

liz and the nutters are so out of touch that they`d nominate and run bin-laden if they thought he could beat President Obama.


In a sense, that's sort of what they did, post-9/11.

IWYW,
— Aswad.




Lucylastic -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/21/2012 3:31:12 PM)


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Musicmystery -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/21/2012 5:13:03 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aswad

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

liz and the nutters are so out of touch that they`d nominate and run bin-laden if they thought he could beat President Obama.


In a sense, that's sort of what they did, post-9/11.

IWYW,
— Aswad.



Far too true.



Musicmystery -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/21/2012 5:15:38 PM)


Listicle Without Commentary 69

Other Things Missouri Representative Todd Akin Believes To Be True About The Uterus, Besides Its Ability To "Shut Down" A Legitimate Rape
Mallory Ortberg | August 20th, 2012

• The average uterus is "cash only."

• When provoked or frightened, a uterus emits a high-pitched scream that instantly stuns its attacker.

• The natural enemies of the uterus are the locust, the hawk, the carpenter ant, and the witch.

• It is possible to use a uterus to determine the nearest source of fresh water or magnetic North but not both.

• A uterus will freeze at any temperature below that of 15C.

• The touch of a uterus will blight and cripple the oak, the pine, and the larch for a generation. A cactus is impervious to the uterus' touch.

• A uterus that has come into the full realization of its powers can only be killed by the seventh son of a seventh son. However, he cannot be Jewish.

• It is possible to summon an inhabitant of the drowned city of Atlantis by blowing upon a uterus like a conch shell. This can be done only once.

• No uterus can survive under the gaze of a wizard; it will wither and shrivel into a harmless stone mask (do not attempt to wear the mask).

• The more uteruses a woman can collect during her lifetime, the higher her status, and the more servants she will command, among the dead.

• "It all" is stored within the uterus of a single righteous woman in every generation. Could she be found and cut open, women everywhere would then "have it all."

• A uterus cannot enter a public library or pass in front of a Wendy's during business hours.

• A uterus that has been attacked or divided into several parts can, given enough time, regenerate the lost tissue and develop rudimentary powers of speech (Spanish only).

• You can substitute up to three tablespoons' worth of a uterus for any recipe that calls for baking soda.

• If trapped outside of a female body and unable to find food, a uterus is capable of living off of its own tissue for up to 80 days.

• Like the mythical tent of Peri-Banou, a uterus can contract to fit within the palm of a human hand or expand to cover an entire jousting field.

• A woman born with two or no uteruses is left exposed to the elements in the nearest forest. Should she attempt to return home she will be hunted by the elders of her village.

• A uterus is capable of holding up to twelve ounces of venom but cannot experience the human feeling of regret.

• No uterus can bear the touch of salt, or the smell of the sea.


Mallory Ortberg is a writer in the Bay Area. Her work has also appeared on Slacktory and Ecosalon; Kate McKean's her agent.
http://www.theawl.com/2012/08/todd-akin-uterus-facts



Moonlightmaddnes -> RE: Congressman Akin on legitimate rape (8/21/2012 5:22:32 PM)

I am in Missouri and no way am I voting for him. I cant stand the other either so I guess I will either leave it or write someone in. The man is an idiot. Really he just said to any woman who got pregnant due to rape that they were not really raped.

One of my friends told me she hit her rapists with a text book before she was legitimately raped but it still didn't shut anything down.



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