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Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 3:21:45 PM   
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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 4:56:13 PM   
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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 5:00:46 PM   
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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 5:29:21 PM   
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Team Obama is going to need a lot more than a few baseless smears to pull this one out of the fire

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Yeah, I think the whole, "Romney/Ryan have a history of trying to BAN BIRTH CONTROL" issue will ensure a good turnout....



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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 5:42:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting problem. I would also add "Lesser of two evils" morons have difficulty as well: hard to determine who is a lesser evil. 

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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 5:57:05 PM   
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Much of Obamas base hears, sees, and speaks absolutely no evil in regard to Obama



And that might be his biggest problem of all

People know better, and they dont like the perception of having the wool pulled over their eyes

Others (on the left) are waking up though...

EXAMPLE:

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According to Pakistan's US Ambassador, Sherry Rehman, the drone war "radicalises foot soldiers, tribes and entire villages in our region". After the latest strike this week, Pakistan's foreign ministry said the attacks were "a violation of its sovereignty and territorial integrity and are in contravention of international law". Its Parliament has passed a resolution condemning the drone war. It is armed aggression by the Obama administration, pure and simple.If it was happening under the Bush presidency, the opposition would be vociferous and widespread.

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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 6:15:42 PM   
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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 6:26:29 PM   
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Are you arguing that Obamas base likes the drone wars?

You understand that we are discussing the base, and that polling indicates that Obamas base might not show up in the numbers Obama needs this November, right?

The drone wars was just an example anyway

One of many







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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 6:31:25 PM   
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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 6:36:03 PM   
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The two sides' respective stances on reproductive rights hasnt changed any, the far left likes to try to smear and slime with the all too typical lies and baseless propaganda but thats nothing new either

The real war on women is taking place in the Middle East anyway, where Obama is aiding Islamic extremists' takeovers of relatively moderate states

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I just hope Republicans keep up their medieval stance on reproduction and that pisses off women and swing voters and gets them to the polls.



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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 6:57:07 PM   
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My prediction, nonetheless, is that Romney will be annihilated in the next election. Then there might be four more years of gridlock.

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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 7:00:48 PM   
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His supporters are less likely to vote than Romney's.



LOL, Steve.  Great find. 



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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 7:07:57 PM   
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I just hope Republicans keep up their medieval stance on reproduction and that pisses off women and swing voters and gets them to the polls.


Frankly, all the nonsense about the "war on women" could blow up horribly in the faces of the people pushing it the hardest, and those at highest risk of being affected by it.   

Imagine, if you will, that Democrats make this their dominant theme in the fear and loathing campaign, defining the entire election on the most extreme characterization of the Republican social agenda.  Imagine further that the voters reject this definition, either by voting against the President, or voting with their butts, and landslide Romney into the White House by deciding it's about the economy. 

Now imagine offering your congratulations to the dumbasses of the perpetually short-sighted left, who just handed the fundy right the opportunity to claim a mandate on abortion and gay marriage.


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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 7:11:45 PM   
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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 7:16:21 PM   
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defining the entire election on the most extreme characterization of the Republican social agenda


So far, Republicans are doing a fine job of this all by themselves.

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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 7:19:06 PM   
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The real war on women is taking place in the Middle East anyway, where Obama is aiding Islamic extremists' takeovers of relatively moderate states


Obama is icing a cake that GWB already baked in that regard.

The extremists carried the day thanks to the GWB/OBL tag team effort.

But on this one point we might agree: the drone attacks are an abscess on an already less than stellar record in international politics.

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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 7:35:41 PM   
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According to Pakistan's US Ambassador, Sherry Rehman, the drone war "radicalises foot soldiers, tribes and entire villages in our region". After the latest strike this week, Pakistan's foreign ministry said the attacks were "a violation of its sovereignty and territorial integrity and are in contravention of international law". Its Parliament has passed a resolution condemning the drone war. It is armed aggression by the Obama administration, pure and simple.If it was happening under the Bush presidency, the opposition would be vociferous and widespread.
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Tough noogies. The Pakis, whom W sucked up to, have been harboring AQ terrorists for years and really aren't capable of policing their own country.

I'm actually not certain they aren't grateful to the US for fighting AQ but need to put on a front.

Sanity, I'm not sure why you say that drone killings in Pakistan didn't happen under W. They did. Obama simply expanded the drone program and made it more effective.

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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 7:52:42 PM   
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Again, Steven, I ask - from the point of view of Obamas base, do you think this is a plus?

Whatever happened to the line of reasoning that said we deserved to get hit on 911 for stealing oil, and that al-Qaeda is a Saudi Arabia organization etc

Are they just supposed to forget everything they learned about American aggression while Bush was president from the likes of Mike Moore et al

Edited to correct your assertion, I didnt "say" that Bush didnt use drones

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Tough noogies. The Pakis, whom W sucked up to, have been harboring AQ terrorists for years and really aren't capable of policing their own country.

I'm actually not certain they aren't grateful to the US for fighting AQ but need to put on a front.

Sanity, I'm not sure why you say that drone killings in Pakistan didn't happen under W. They did. Obama simply expanded the drone program and made it more effective.



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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 8:22:30 PM   
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Whatever happened to the line of reasoning that said we deserved to get hit on 911 for stealing oil


It vanished the moment you stopped imagining it.

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RE: Obama's problem. - 8/22/2012 8:29:59 PM   
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That has officially unhappened?

Is Michael Moore an unperson now too?

Is it a thoughtcrime to even wonder...

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Whatever happened to the line of reasoning that said we deserved to get hit on 911 for stealing oil


It vanished the moment you stopped imagining it.



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