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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/23/2012 5:58:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here we go again!! It's all Obama's fault. Those who think it's all Obama's fault for the state of The United States of America need to wake the hell up and REALLY take a look behind the curtain and stop looking on the surface. That's what intelligent people do. They look behind the curtain and think outside the box instead of following those who tell them what to think, how to think, and who to thinik it about. Now, THAT IS A TWIT! Not only a twit but a ignorant SHEEPLE!!

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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/23/2012 6:25:48 AM   
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I think it laughable how all you twits cannot see the truth of our situation. The trends have pushed us toward total UN dominance for 5 decades. All sorts of UN policy declarations and treaties are being imposed upon Americans, from Agenda 21, to Codex Alimentarius, the carbon-is-pollution fraud, gun control, and more. Clear plans have been laid to use foreign troops here while our patriots are in harms way around the globe. There's been SO MUCH well documented proof in recent decades that there is no excuse why all you twits are so ignorant. Just spend a little time on infowars.com each day and you can't ignore the truth much longer. You have a president whose loyalties are completely suspect and who is a fraud in his own right. Everything about the man is fraudulent: his SSN, his Selective Service registration, and his long form 'birth certificate'. Whole websites have been devoted to exposing all the details. Go ahead, use your snide deprecating 'humor' to poke fun at me and the truth and the men who are wise enough to state it. It's all you have. Good luck with that when the SHTF.


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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/23/2012 7:07:25 AM   
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I think it laughable how all you twits cannot see the truth of our situation. The trends have pushed us toward total UN dominance for 5 decades. All sorts of UN policy declarations and treaties are being imposed upon Americans, from Agenda 21, to Codex Alimentarius, the carbon-is-pollution fraud, gun control, and more. Clear plans have been laid to use foreign troops here while our patriots are in harms way around the globe. There's been SO MUCH well documented proof in recent decades that there is no excuse why all you twits are so ignorant. Just spend a little time on infowars.com each day and you can't ignore the truth much longer. You have a president whose loyalties are completely suspect and who is a fraud in his own right. Everything about the man is fraudulent: his SSN, his Selective Service registration, and his long form 'birth certificate'. Whole websites have been devoted to exposing all the details. Go ahead, use your snide deprecating 'humor' to poke fun at me and the truth and the men who are wise enough to state it. It's all you have. Good luck with that when the SHTF.


And yet you stay... imagine that!

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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/23/2012 7:22:30 AM   
subspaceseven


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Status: offline 		And people wonder who votes for Akin and the dumb ass judge .....here they are.....the hells with facts....they said it so I believe it..cause the President is not white...if it is not race please show me your posting against this from before he was elected???? These UN policies have been approve by, Reagan, both Bush's and Clinton...but somehow it's all the black guys fault????


and lets forget the fact of law that congress has to approve any of these measures for them to become law...but can't scream the sky is falling when you look at the facts

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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/23/2012 7:27:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		What are your thoughts on Codex Alimentarius?

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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/23/2012 8:44:29 AM   
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Other than that a pretty good idea to have basic food standards in place.

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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/23/2012 8:56:49 AM   
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I agree with that analysis. However, that wasn't the point. I don't think the US is going to kneel to the UN. And, if a President did give the country away (it wouldn't be some handing over of keys, but some treaty that will less obviously give up our sovereignty), I could see the American people rise up and deny that from happening. All that being said, I don't see Obama as doing that.


[The President] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur

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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/23/2012 10:27:40 AM   
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No, I don't think the UN will invade the US.

In the scenario the Judge put forth, Obama would be handing over the US, so yes, he would stand for it. Do I think Obama would hand the US over? No.

I don't know if this judge is an elected official or not. If he is, then it's not up to me to be worried or whether it's acceptable or not.



What do you mean "its not up to me to be worried" Its everything to do with you since it is your country.

Your claim of it being a scenario is way off the mark, it is more than that, its scaremongering. Unacceptable behaviour from a public official in any country.

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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/23/2012 10:58:50 AM   
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What are your thoughts on Codex Alimentarius?


Seems to work well up here.

Of course, it could be a problem for the USA to attempt to meet civilized standards, as usual. To the point where we have to use the exemptions for ethnic traditional dishes to be allowed to sell what passes for good food in the USA up here, since it isn't really fit for human consumption otherwise, and often not fit for animal consumption. If sold as an ethnic dish, however, it is allowed. The whole bit about "eat at your own risk", basically.

On the rare occasion that I pick up an imported soft drink, I note that the import declaration label is twice as long as the labelling for locally produced soft drinks, and three to four times as long as the one you get to see in your stores. Frequently with warnings about the known detrimental effects of one or more ingredients for certain segments of the population (e.g. children). It's still sold, but it's appropriately labelled. Of course, labelling it properly makes it a lot less attractive for people to buy.

Not being able to live up to the minimum standards the rest of the industrialized world takes for granted... I'm a bit embarassed for you guys, really.

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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/23/2012 11:14:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		This has been a right wing extremist topic for years. The UN is going to take over the US and that is the excuse to form private militia groups which seem to end up on the domestic terrorist list no matter what party is in power.

The UN is at the forefront of the clandestine conspiracy to form a single world government.

In other words, this is nothing more than the extreme right trying to justify creating a theocratic police state.

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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/23/2012 11:46:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
No, I don't think the UN will invade the US.
In the scenario the Judge put forth, Obama would be handing over the US, so yes, he would stand for it. Do I think Obama would hand the US over? No.
I don't know if this judge is an elected official or not. If he is, then it's not up to me to be worried or whether it's acceptable or not.

What do you mean "its not up to me to be worried" Its everything to do with you since it is your country.
Your claim of it being a scenario is way off the mark, it is more than that, its scaremongering. Unacceptable behaviour from a public official in any country.


You are missing my point completely, Politesub. If the judge is an elected official, then it's not up to me because I don't live anywhere near Texas. I can neither vote for or against him. That is why it's not up to me. I can't do a damn thing about it. Had it been an Ohio state elected official and/or an elected official from my district, I would have a duty to call him out and see that he is not elected to any office. As it is, I can not do a damn thing to stop this guy.

The judge is putting out a possible scenario. He isn't calling for a civil war if Obama gets re-elected. Hell, the civil war will only happen, according to the judge, if Obama hands over the USA to the UN. He sees Obama as someone who will do that, and that action is what could lead to a civil war. It's not just his getting re-elected. So, yes, it's a potential scenario. And, yes, I agree that it's waaaaay the fuck out there. And no, I don't agree with it.

Did you argue against the Republicans pushing Grandma over a cliff ads? You want to talk about scaremongering. I think that ad even went National, unlike this Judge's lip flapping.

Is "putting you back in chains" scaremongering?

And, believe me, if it were R's doing it, it would just as wrong as if a D did it.

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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/23/2012 12:29:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, that texas judge is gonna get the first ice pick come the civil war, we dont want these guys legislating from the bench.

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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/24/2012 2:03:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		So this judge is worried about a civil war taking place....IF.....the people of the Union wish the current resident of the White House, Mr. Obama, to have a second term in office over his Republican challenger, Mr. Mitt Romney? A civil war starts because the nation does something straight out of the US Costitution? Or is it this judge is wishing for something like this to happen?

Regardless, I think its time this judge gets a mental/emotional health check by trained professionals. Do you want a judge to preside over your court case whom believes fantasies as truth, and conspiracy theories are the norm?

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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/24/2012 2:13:59 AM   
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What are your thoughts on Codex Alimentarius?


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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/24/2012 2:58:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ClassIsInSession

What are your thoughts on Codex Alimentarius?


A few months ago, I looked for my copy of the Codex as part of my usual Illuminati duties (mundane stuff like organising the UN invasion, destroying gun rights and such like, nothing to get worried about). Sadly I found that my dog had chewed through the entire edition.

Fortunately my doggie survived without any apparent ill-effects. I can assure that the same won't be the case with the USA by the time we're finished with you.


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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/24/2012 3:09:44 AM   
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This paranoia about the UN isn't a new thing.
It's an obsession for the nut bags, the
survivalist nut bags currently practicing
foraging in the forests and the bunker
dwellers and gun hoarders. Paranoid
personities driven deeper into madness
by their bone deep ignorance.

This judge is not fit to sit on the bench
even in Texas. Being mentally challenged
and crazy should be a disqualifier even
in Texas.

No president has the power to turn the
soverignity of the country to anyone.
If riots were to break loose he would send
in the National Guard. But there aren't
going to be any riots. Some McVeigh
crackpot may try something but no
uprisings in the streets are going to
happen. Certainly not on the nights
American Idol, Jersey Shore and
Keeping Up with the Kardasians are
on.

It's unfair to lump all the paranoics
and ignoramances as southern.
The wild west especially Idaho has
it's fair share of federal government
haters. Ruby Ridge ring a bell?
These people are brainwashed by right
wing media and propaganda.
They are gullible, naive and not very
bright to start with. Paranoia has always
been a part of the American psyche.
And nowhere does it run more rampantly
than in the minds of skeered white men
who think they are surrounded by
hostile hordes.

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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/24/2012 5:10:14 AM   
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So this judge is worried about a civil war taking place....IF.....the people of the Union wish the current resident of the White House, Mr. Obama, to have a second term in office over his Republican challenger, Mr. Mitt Romney? A civil war starts because the nation does something straight out of the US Costitution?


Not exactly. The civil war worry isn't about Obama getting re-elected. The Judge stated his belief that Obama is going to hand US sovereignty to the UN, which would likely cause the civil war. If Obama isn't re-elected, he can't hand us over to the blue hats. The claim wasn't that there was going to be a civil war simply because Obama is re-elected. It's what the Judge believes Obama will do if he gets re-elected that potentially leads to a civil war.

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Or is it this judge is wishing for something like this to happen?


Um, no, I don't think the Judge is calling for a civil war.

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Regardless, I think its time this judge gets a mental/emotional health check by trained professionals. Do you want a judge to preside over your court case whom believes fantasies as truth, and conspiracy theories are the norm?


If he's an elected official and gets elected, those that elect him get him. But, his sphere of influence is limited to his area, so if they want to be lead by some yahoo, let 'em.

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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/24/2012 11:56:44 AM   
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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/24/2012 4:58:59 PM   
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So this judge is worried about a civil war taking place....IF.....the people of the Union wish the current resident of the White House, Mr. Obama, to have a second term in office over his Republican challenger, Mr. Mitt Romney? A civil war starts because the nation does something straight out of the US Costitution?
fear
Not exactly. The civil war worry isn't about Obama getting re-elected. The Judge stated his belief that Obama is going to hand US sovereignty to the UN, which would likely cause the civil war. If Obama isn't re-elected, he can't hand us over to the blue hats. The claim wasn't that there was going to be a civil war simply because Obama is re-elected. It's what the Judge believes Obama will do if he gets re-elected that potentially leads to a civil war.


DS, even granting your explanation of the Judge's motives in full, there remains the fact that his fears are totally delusional, without any possible basis in reality.

The UN doesn't do invasions, it doesn't possess a standing army nor, AFAIK, is it potentially capable of either. Not only has the UN never controlled the sovereignty of any country, it has never sought to do so. The thought of a UN takeover of American sovereignty is preposterous.

A nation's sovereignty is considered inalienable. Any arrangements freely entered into between Obama and the UN are subject to the US Constitution via the Supreme Court, which will automatically reject any infringement on US sovereignty. US sovereignty is not the President's to give away or otherwise compromise.

On any logical reading, there's far more chance of my meeting the Man on the Moon than the Judge's fears materialising. His fears are a Right wing delusion/fantasy and IMHO good grounds for fearing for the Judge's mental competence. On their own, his expressed fears are sufficient grounds for barring him from any public office until his mental issues have been successfully dealt with.

To put that slightly differently, on the available evidence, this person is not capable of making correct considered judgements on political matters at the moment. Allowing him to continue in his current office is insane. It is not in the best interests of either the body politic or the judge.

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RE: Lubbock official warns of Obama civil war - 8/24/2012 5:26:58 PM   
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Thank you pretty much everyone but Aswad, for reminding me why I quit posting on CM. I asked a simple and unbiased question and already the onslaught of rude, crass and ignorant responses. Aswad, thank you for actually taking the time, as you always do, to reply in an informative, and respectful manner.


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