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kalikshama -> RE: Seeing 2016: Obama's America (film) (8/27/2012 2:31:24 PM)

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The new film, based on the research and writings of Dinesh D'Souza,


Forbes' Shameful Piece on Obama as the "Other"

The worst kind of smear journalism by Dinesh D’Souza

So it’s come to this: Forbes cover story on “How Obama Thinks” is a gross piece of innuendo—a fact-twisting, error-laden piece of paranoia. This is the worst kind of smear journalism—a singularly disgusting work.

Forbes for some reason gives Dinesh D’Souza the cover and lots of space to froth about the notion popular in the right-wing fever swamps that Obama is an “other”; that he doesn’t think like “an American,” that his actions benefit foreigners rather than Amurricans. It’s too kind to call this innuendo. It’s far too overt for that.

Here are some of the red flags up top:

Barack Obama is the most antibusiness president in a generation, perhaps in American history… The President’s actions are so bizarre that they mystify his critics and supporters alike… More strange behavior… The oddities go on and on… Obama’s foreign policy is no less strange. He supports a $100 million mosque scheduled to be built near the site where terrorists in the name of Islam brought down the World Trade Center… the Obama Administration supported the conditional release of Abdel Baset al-Megrahi, the Lockerbie bomber convicted in connection with the deaths of 270 people, mostly Americans… One more anomaly: A few months ago nasa Chief Charles Bolden announced that from now on the primary mission of America’s space agency would be to improve relations with the Muslim world… Theories abound to explain the President’s goals and actions.

And then there’s this:

These theories aren’t wrong so much as they are inadequate. Even if they could account for Obama’s domestic policy, they cannot explain his foreign policy. The real problem with Obama is worse—much worse. But we have been blinded to his real agenda because, across the political spectrum, we all seek to fit him into some version of American history. In the process, we ignore Obama’s own history. Here is a man who spent his formative years—the first 17 years of his life—off the American mainland, in Hawaii, Indonesia and Pakistan, with multiple subsequent journeys to Africa.

A good way to discern what motivates Obama is to ask a simple question: What is his dream? Is it the American dream? Is it Martin Luther King’s dream? Or something else?

It is certainly not the American dream as conceived by the founders.

It’s all here but the birth certificate!

Let’s unpack that stuff a little bit. First of all, D’Souza perpetuates the Cokie Roberts idiocy—that Hawaii is somehow less American than the rest of the U.S. But hey—no problems with Alaska, which came into the Union the same year. Somehow, Sarah Palin always seem to be an examplar of “Real America.” Hmmm.

But D’Souza has some real nerve here: Obama is a native-born American and D’Souza is not. When he says “Here is a man who spent his formative years—the first 17 years of his life—off the American mainland,” he could be referring to himself. According to Wikipedia, anyway, he was born in India in 1961 and never came to the States until 1978. That adds up to about “the first 17 years of his life—off the American mainland.” Somehow the first-seventeen years thing raises questions about Obama’s Americanness but not about D’Souza’s qualifications to question somebody’s degree of native-born Americanness.

This is loathsome stuff. And, again, it’s the cover story of one of the three big mainstream financial magazines.

There’s more “Obama isn’t one of us” stuff here:

What then is Obama’s dream? We don’t have to speculate because the President tells us himself in his autobiography, Dreams from My Father. According to Obama, his dream is his father’s dream…

So who was Barack Obama Sr.? He was a Luo tribesman who grew up in Kenya and studied at Harvard. He was a polygamist who had, over the course of his lifetime, four wives and eight children. One of his sons, Mark Obama, has accused him of abuse and wife-beating. He was also a regular drunk driver who got into numerous accidents, killing a man in oneand causing his own legs to be amputated due to injury in another. In 1982 he got drunk at a bar in Nairobi and drove into a tree, killing himself.
An odd choice, certainly, as an inspirational hero.


Did anybody come away from reading Dreams From My Father with the idea that Obama thought his father was a hero? I sure didn’t.

The veneer of respectability, if you can call it that, that D’Souza and Forbes put on this noxious near-McCarthyite junk is that Obama is an “anticolonialist.” It’s thin gruel. And, hey—I’m an anticolonialist, too. And so were George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and the rest of the gang.

But D’Souza and Forbes go on to smear Obama with his father’s life and work. And this is where you figure out that “anticolonialist” is just a code word for “anti-American.” Let’s remember that Obama met his father one time in his life.

Read more: http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/forbes_shameful_obama_dinesh_dsouza.php?page=all




Yachtie -> RE: Seeing 2016: Obama's America (film) (8/27/2012 2:55:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

But D’Souza has some real nerve here: Obama is a native-born American and D’Souza is not. When he says “Here is a man who spent his formative years—the first 17 years of his life—off the American mainland,” he could be referring to himself. According to Wikipedia, anyway, he was born in India in 1961 and never came to the States until 1978. That adds up to about “the first 17 years of his life—off the American mainland.” Somehow the first-seventeen years thing raises questions about Obama’s Americanness but not about D’Souza’s qualifications to question somebody’s degree of native-born Americanness.



The crux is whether D'Souza was intellectually honest in his treatment of the data. The above claims he has no credibility to even speak. Hogwash. D'Souza is not the President and is as qualified to deconstruct Obama as anyone else is. D'Souza has never claimed to be native born. Obama has and has also contradicted himself.

The only question is, was he intellectually honest? Well, yes he was. You may not like his interpretation of the data but we are all allowed our opinion. Were his facts in order? Well, for the most part I understand that they are.

The Columbia Journalism Review is really quite emotional.




SternSkipper -> RE: Seeing 2016: Obama's America (film) (8/27/2012 3:00:59 PM)

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Moral of the story,dont talk politics over a golf ball...and certainly don't waste your time trying to bullshit me....lol.



Just carry hand sanitizer. LOT'S of hand sanitizer.




DarkSteven -> RE: Seeing 2016: Obama's America (film) (8/28/2012 4:14:14 PM)

This review states that D'Souza created a theory that Obama was strongly influenced by his father, whom Obama saw once after he was two years old, to become hell-bent on destroying America.




TheHeretic -> RE: Seeing 2016: Obama's America (film) (8/28/2012 6:41:22 PM)

The review was fact checked through the Truth Team, I'm sure, Steve.  Yahoo News is pretty close to needing to rebrand themselves as Yobama News.

The psychological role of the absentee father is well presented, and what is brought up in the film from the father's own writings is a more compelling vision of his beliefs, than the interview with the father's friend. 

We get the usual reference in the review, of the single personal meeting, after the father left his wife and infant son, for the next scholarsip, and the next wife, in New York.  D'Souza is so bold in the film as to note that there is also international mail, and that the father and son used that, right up through Barack Sr's death in a car crash, while the President was in college.  I guess we'll be waiting a long time for those letters to come out of the future Obama Presidential Library, but it's not accurate to suggest the single visit was all they knew of each other.




Musicmystery -> RE: Seeing 2016: Obama's America (film) (8/28/2012 6:46:28 PM)

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