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RE: Shifting the centre of your universe - 8/27/2012 10:15:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: BambiBoi

Do you think its appropriate for him to "shift the center of his universe" for a "short term trial?"

That was my thought too.

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RE: Shifting the centre of your universe - 8/27/2012 10:33:08 AM

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Just a thought.....I will always be the center of my universe. Not to say I'm selfish or focused only on my self, but if Master were to go away tomorrow, He and I are both fully aware of and happy about the fact that I can and will successfully go on. In the end, we may only be left with ourselves and I'm sure I can handle that. So, if that makes me the center of the universe, so be it. Not a problem with us. It's those who focus all importance on another that collapse when that other is no more. And, since this is "short term," I'd really be skeptical of him doing that........luci

Ditto on that.

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RE: Shifting the centre of your universe - 8/27/2012 10:36:34 AM

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but most of the time he is submissive and does his best to make me happy.

I hear there is a correlation to orgasms - is he more pleasing when he hasn't had one?

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RE: Shifting the centre of your universe - 8/27/2012 11:56:20 AM

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. I noticed that most submissive males are more intelligent than the dominant and they also seem to be stronger. Have you ever noticed anything like that?

No. I'm just going to say that no, I haven't discovered that as regards intelligence. Men are often physically stronger than women, yes. And their hands are often larger, so they can open the big jar of pickles more easily. I find that a convenient thing.

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RE: Shifting the centre of your universe - 8/27/2012 12:03:09 PM

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I noticed that most submissive males are more intelligent than the dominant and they also seem to be stronger. Have you ever noticed anything like that?

Whaaaa?

Maybe male subs have to try harder to win the female? So the smarter ones win?

Some of the smartest men I have ever met have been dominant. I live with one. I'm actually willing to admit (most of the time, anyway) that he's smarter than me.

Are you saying sub men are stronger than dom men? Not noticed that in the least, but I'm five feet tall, men are big hulking strong beasts to me, no wonder I love em !!

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RE: Shifting the centre of your universe - 8/28/2012 7:06:28 PM

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This is a short term relationship. It is only sensible for him to be focusing on himself because you're obviously not going to be interested in his well being if you're already planning for the end of the relationship.

You want someone to put your desires first? Then put their needs first? Prove to them that you deserve what you want.

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RE: Shifting the centre of your universe - 9/6/2012 11:24:35 AM

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Greetings,

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He still thinks that he is indeed the centre of his universe. We are in the training process now, as his Mistress I'm trying to get him to accept his Mistress becoming the centre and putting Her desires first.

I'm going to approach your question from a different angle. I am not the center of my universe because that degree of self-focus is unhealthy for me. I have no difficulty putting others needs before mine when appropriate and oftentimes I'm happy to do so. However, this is not a result of conditioning, slavery, or anything along those lines. On the contrary, it is readily displayed without partiality to persons from various walks of life. This is my constitution and it has grown significantly since my departure from relationships of this nature.

You are honest in your assertion of what you're attempting to do. But will the training you're instituting create what you hope or merely allow the individual to respond in the manner preferred? There are some who enjoy giving of themselves and its consistency can be measured within and outside of their relationships. Others do so as a result of external measures or persons but readily return to their normal state when these things are no longer present.

For the individual to reach the place where your desires usurp his requires an internal shift that is truthfully unselfish. It is honestly manifested when the individual gives freely of himself without expectation or required benefit save the pleasure his act provides for the intended party. The transitions produce a person that is significantly yielded in thought, speech, emotions, and behavior. The evidence of ones acquiesce is best depicted in how the individual relates to others as opposed to the overseer. The testament of their influence and his absorption is readily observed. Then you'll know.

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RE: Shifting the centre of your universe - 9/6/2012 1:24:30 PM

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I'm going to guess the guy is a typical wanker malesub...the ones who sees a Domme as a fetish delivery system. Good luck with that.

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RE: Shifting the centre of your universe - 9/9/2012 8:51:05 AM

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If it is a short-term relationship, he should remain the center of his universe.

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RE: Shifting the centre of your universe - 9/9/2012 9:04:33 AM

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Its a shallow relationship - so of course its going to be weird. When there are already barriers put up, how can you think that you are going to be someones universe? You cant make it more comfortable, you have already put up the perimeter - that basically says "If youre got good enough for me, Im dumping you."

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I own a slave on a trial short-term contract basis. He still thinks that he is indeed the centre of his universe. We are in the training process now, as his Mistress I'm trying to get him to accept his Mistress becoming the centre and putting Her desires first. Could you recommend any way to speed up the process and to make it more comfortable for both? I'm prepared to make every effort I can to make this work and to give my slave proper training.

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