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Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 10:45:43 AM   
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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 11:03:03 AM   
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Having watched the video, I'm with Matthews.

I thought the HuffPo did a better job summarizing it:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/27/chris-matthews-reince-priebus-birth-certificate_n_1832872.html

Chris Matthews exploded at Reince Priebus on Monday's "Morning Joe," tearing into the Republican National Committee chairman and accusing his party of playing the race card.

The MSNBC host was livid over Mitt Romney's recent birth certificate joke, and false claims that Obama ended work requirements for welfare.

"That cheap shot ... was awful," Matthews said, referring to the joke. "It is an embarrassment to your party to play that card ... you are playing that ethnic card there." As Priebus apparently laughed and co-host Joe Scarborough tried to get a word in, Matthews continued, "you can sit there and giggle about it, but the fact is your party is playing that card."

"You think Mitt Romney's playing the race card?" Scarborough asked.

"There's no doubt he did," Matthews said. Co-host Mika Brzezinski speculated that Romney may have said what he said because he is an "awkward joker."

Priebus said Matthews was just trying to "push his brand" with his "monologue."

"It just seems funny that the first joke he ever told in his life was about Obama's birth certificate," Matthews said.

Later when Priebus alleged that Obama was looking at European policies for guidance, Matthews lost it again.

"Where do you get this from?" Matthews shouted. "This is insane." He charged that Priebus was "playing that card again."

"Let's just work on tone," Brzezinski said. "Chris, let him answer the question," Scarborough said.

"I'm not going to get into a shouting match with Chris so you guys can move on," Priebus said. "Because you're losing, that's why," Matthews said. "Garbage, garbage," Priebus muttered.

"It's your garbage," Matthews fired back.

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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 11:08:11 AM   
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What's new?

Same old smarmy "Oh, no not me shit" they always pull. how many times RIGHT HERE have we seen "The Kenyan"?

Not that I ever admired the racism played out in the south (Far less today with a more open, educated, diverse, and enlightened population).... Not that I ever thought it was even "okay" or "harmless".... They weren't NEARLY as cowardly as the neo-con racist.
Sitting around figuring out clever wording for calling people "ni*&&ers" is the EPITOME of gutlessness.


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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 11:09:58 AM   
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IDK, what do you think?


I think Chris Matthews is so full of shit his breath stinks. Romney talking about relaxing the work requirements is racist, but Ole Joe talking about putting people back in chains isnt?!? It's time for Matthews to figure out that tingle in his leg is nothing more than his Depends leaking.



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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 11:13:23 AM   
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What does a joke about a birth certificate have to do with racisim ? Mathews is a hack.

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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 11:18:15 AM   
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It's time for Matthews to figure out that tingle in his leg is nothing more than his Depends leaking.


Since you brought it up I'll offer a correction. While there is no evidence that Matthews wears an adult diaper. Romney is in fact a regular piss fountain. Next time he's doing his Humble American act... pay attention to the sheer bulk under those jeans. I had a lady Dr point that out to me, one who deals with the issues necessitating same.


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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 11:21:49 AM   
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Mathews should be wearing a diaper. He said himself that he felt a tingle go down his leg when Obama got elected..

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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 11:22:29 AM   
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What does a joke about a birth certificate have to do with racisim ? Mathews is a hack.


Thanks for providing an example of the intellectual dishonesty I cited in my first post.


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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 11:32:33 AM   
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I don't know that I'd agree. It's true that Obama doesn't look like the white America that racists envision. But the unAmerican/birther/Marxist weirdness is something unto itself, although it does have some of its roots in racism. It's the thought that there's something about Obama that's not right.

To be honest, I feel the same thing about Rush Limbaugh. He's overweight, never graduated college, and plays fast and loose with facts. He's rabidly conservative and an illegal drug addict, a misogynist that takes Viagra. Yet he's in many ways the de facto head of the GOP.

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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 12:58:49 PM   
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I don't know that I'd agree. It's true that Obama doesn't look like the white America that racists envision. But the unAmerican/birther/Marxist weirdness is something unto itself, although it does have some of its roots in racism. It's the thought that there's something about Obama that's not right.


My thing is that they take these CONSIDERABLE racist rooted concepts and try to somehow sanitize them.


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To be honest, I feel the same thing about Rush Limbaugh. He's overweight, never graduated college, and plays fast and loose with facts. He's rabidly conservative and an illegal drug addict, a misogynist that takes Viagra. Yet he's in many ways the de facto head of the GOP.


What's funny and tragic as well, is that to make the above statement NOT ONE WORD OF EXAGGERATION was required. Talk about a party that ought to hang it's head in shame.


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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 1:06:10 PM   
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Mathews should be wearing a diaper. He said himself that he felt a tingle go down his leg when Obama got elected.



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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 1:16:25 PM   
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Only a leftist asshole like Mathews, and others like him, could see what's not there.

"Of course he's playing the race card," he continued. "Why would he bring [the birth certificate] up?"

Eligibility perhaps? It's Obama's own damn fault it's an issue Mittens can exploit, given the times he's opened it via his own statements.
If eligibility is not potentially a big issue, given the Constitutional constraint involved, would it not be better to ignore it?
Eligibility is not race based.

It is an embarrassment to your party to play that card," Matthews said. "This stuff about getting rid of the work requirement for welfare is dishonest, everyone's pointed out it's dishonest, and you are playing that little ethnic card there. You can play games and giggle about it, but the fact is your side is playing that card. You start talking about work requirements, everyone knows what game you're playing. It's a race card."

Typical leftist crap. When you ain't got shit, play the race card.





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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 1:26:43 PM   
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What's new?

Same old smarmy "Oh, no not me shit" they always pull. how many times RIGHT HERE have we seen "The Kenyan"?



There are white Kenyan's SS. Just FYI.

The intellectual dishonesty of the left is appalling.

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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 1:29:49 PM   
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Eligibility perhaps?


There is no eligibility issue. The only people claiming there is any issue are clearly unable accept the reality that a black man was legitimately elected to the office of President of the United States.

Unless, of course, you think that the Secret Service, Department of State, and United States Senate are all "in on it".

Which, given some people, wouldn't surprise me. But there's no reason to pay attention to their ravings.



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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 1:30:51 PM   
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I don't know that I'd agree. It's true that Obama doesn't look like the white America that racists envision. But the unAmerican/birther/Marxist weirdness is something unto itself, although it does have some of its roots in racism. It's the thought that there's something about Obama that's not right.


Obama is the 'Other.' He is not like us. He is foreign. Outsider. Islamist. Radical, Socialist. Not qualified by birth to be president. He is unAmerican, ain't he?

The complexion of the American people is changing. Whites will not be the Majority in the future. Western European Culture is threatened. The Repubs want to "take back our country."

Same issues are salient in European politics. Why not here? Why deny it?

Is Romney so dumb that he doesn't understand what is happening in America?

Is Romney so dumb he did not know the nature of his birther 'joke.?'

Wait! I guess that's possible, hey?

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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 1:34:26 PM   
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Eligibility perhaps?


There is no eligibility issue. The only people claiming there is any issue are clearly unable accept the reality that a black man was legitimately elected to the office of President of the United States.

Unless, of course, you think that the Secret Service, Department of State, and United States Senate are all "in on it".

Which, given some people, wouldn't surprise me. But there's no reason to pay attention to their ravings.





Obama's eligibility question is of his own making. Leftists use the race card as to make it go away. Intellectual dishonesty at its finest.

The most racist people are leftists.



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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 1:40:32 PM   
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Obama's eligibility question is of his own making. Leftists use the race card as to make it go away. Intellectual dishonesty at its finest.

The most racist people are leftists.



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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 1:44:17 PM   
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You may not like his politics but Alan Keyes is quite American. I found it quite amusing that when he was running way back when the black community said he wasn't black enough. Called him an Uncle Tom.

There was no eligibility issue with Keyes.

With Obama there is some fire dancing around his eligibility status. The left loves Obama, his politics, and will do anything to stop it from gaining any traction.
Hence they play the race card at every opportunity by pointing to the other side and screaming raciss.

Pure Alinsky.

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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 2:17:00 PM   
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Tarring Obama as the 'other' obscures Republican failings

May 27, 2012

The Republican presidential challenger, Mitt Romney, was given credit last week for refusing to endorse a proposed ad campaign that sought to link US President Barack Obama with the controversial sermons delivered by his former pastor Jeremiah Wright. In doing so, Mr Romney appeared to be demonstrating the same streak of decency that wouldn't allow him to join in the Islamophobic hysteria when that tendency was in vogue.

So far, so good. But before pinning any medals on Mr Romney, it is important to note some worrisome signs indicating that he and his campaign may have opted for a more subtle approach to establishing the "otherness" of President Obama.

The more ham-fisted approach was used in 2008 by then vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin. It was both divisive and a failure. Beautifully catalogued by radio and TV personality Bill Press in his new book, The Obama Hate Machine, the GOP and their media echo chamber engaged in a multi-pronged assault against Mr Obama in an effort to paint him as "radical," "foreign" and "different than the rest of us." He was "Muslim," "associated with terrorists," "of foreign birth;" a "black militant," "not a loyal American" or a "Marxist".

Republicans failed to defeat then-Senator Obama in 2008. But their efforts did leave a deep residual mistrust of the president. For example, recent polls show that an average of 40 per cent of Republican voters in southern states do not believe Mr Obama was born in the US (and is, therefore, ineligible to be president) and more than a quarter of all Republicans still believe Mr Obama is a Muslim.

There was a more subtle approach to establishing the "otherness" of Mr Obama that had roots in the 2008 Democratic primary. A memo prepared back then by Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, Mark Penn, pointed out the "diverse multicultural background" of her opponent, suggesting that "it exposes a very strong weakness for him - his roots to basic American values and culture are at best limited. I cannot imagine Americans electing a president ... who is not at his centre fundamentally American in his thinking and values".

Based on this assessment, Mr Penn then asked how the Clinton campaign "could give some life to this contrast without turning negative?" He answered his question with the following advice: "Every speech should contain the line you were born in the middle of America ... and talk about the ... deeply American values you grew up with".

While candidate Clinton rejected this approach, her surrogates, at times, did not. In any case, this memo proposing a more subtle attempt to paint Mr Obama as somehow un-American appears now to have been picked up by team-Romney in 2012.

Earlier this week I received a mass fund-raising mailer from the Romney campaign. It included a glossy full colour photo of the candidate in wrinkled jeans and windbreaker, standing in front of a weathered barn emblazoned with a massive American flag. Under the photo was written: "James, thank you for believing in America as much as I do ... this is a moment that demands we return to our basic values and core principles. Mitt Romney."

The fund-raising letter that accompanied the photo featured, on just its first page in only 15 lines of text, the words "America" and "American" 10 times. The letter began: "I believe in America ... I believe in the American Dream. And I believe in American strength". And continued: "This election is a battle for the soul of America." It concluded by asserting that this campaign is "to reclaim America for the people".

While a touch more subtle than the rejected idea of painting him as a radical with the Jeremiah Wright brush, the net effect of this Romney campaign mailing is the same. In case you missed the point: Mr Romney is the real American; he is the one who believes in "American values", and he alone is fighting for the "soul of America".

And the subtext of the message, in case you missed that: Mr Obama is different; he's not like "us"; his ideas are foreign; and he and his supporters believe in values that are un-American.

So while claiming to be traversing the high road, this GOP approach invites the same conclusion and opens the door to the same bigotry that has for four years now tarnished American's national discourse.

The election for the next president of the United States can be about many things. It can be about approaches to job creation, or philosophies of governance, or personal character, or even qualities of leadership. But in a time of great national stress, faced as the US is with a struggling economy and an unsettling and rapidly changing world, this election debate should not be about subtle or not-so-subtle digs calling into question the "patriotism" or "otherness" of the incumbent.



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RE: Chris Matthews accuses GOP of playing ‘race card’ - 8/27/2012 2:20:52 PM   
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"There was no eligibility issue with Keyes"
No electability issue either,isn't that funny how that works.
He was no threat to white America so he's okay.
Do you folks really hear yourselves when you put this bullshit front and center ?



Edited to add Mathews hit the nail on the head......only he didn't go far enough,he should have shone a light on the bullshit whining coming from the right about the President's supposed "fear and loathing" campaign.
These folks do nothing but sling mud and try to scare voters,all the while running their own class warfare(the rich and want to be rich against everyone else)yet bitch and whine crying over and over that Obama isn't playing nice.
Romney's an asshole and Ryan is nothing more than a "cultural warrior" a hired gun who claims to be a deficit hawk while he caters to every right wing special interest group.Heaven help the country if these assholes get anywhere near 1600 Penn. Ave.

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