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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/26/2012 4:14:13 PM   
MissImmortalPain


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Status: offline 		Correct, Jeff, it is. I'm not sure when people went from assuming everyone online is lieing to believing everyone online is doing it the way they would in the real world but I'm happy I have been around long enough to know that google reallly doesn't have the answer to everything and just because someones profile says something doesn't mean that is how it is really done.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/26/2012 4:17:49 PM   
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I was married to one for 14 years. Lived with another for 6. Fin three now that all live within a mile of my house. I think it might be helpful when people are trying to figure out this fetish if they would stop assuming that the "princess" profiles they see online are all there are to it.

Which would be roughly equivalent to believing that the "master" one meets at a MAsT meeting is likely to resemble the "master" one reads about on a SwaggerDom profile.



Lmfao, you've got to be kidding me, SwaggerDom? Is this the for real male equivalent of FinDom?

Edit: Becauses Jesus H Christ if that's a real thing I should just bring the whole damn fraternity on here. Doesn't get much more swagger than that. Hell we could pay for every date party and formal from now till eternity, then set aside one a year for our pay piglets. Get keg tributes Hahahaha hey same thing right? That's legit

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/26/2012 4:22:31 PM   
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Lmfao, you've got to be kidding me, SwaggerDom? Is this the for real male equivalent of FinDom?

No, it's a word I picked up from a friend that I find wonderfully descriptive. Think, "I'm a fucking badass master and all you bitches will kneel before me now!". It's not hard to find a dominant profile that reads like that. I never saw that person at a MAsT meeting. My point is not that they are similar to findommes. My point is that someone's profile or even a lot of profiles do not describe reality. If I were to read profiles of "masters" (in the TPE sense) and expect that's what I would find at a MAsT meeting I would be VASTLY surprised when I actually went to the meeting. In fact, as SimplyMichael can attest to, I did have a bit of that going into my first MAsT meeting and made a bit of a fool of myself because of it.


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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/26/2012 4:44:53 PM   
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Lmfao, you've got to be kidding me, SwaggerDom? Is this the for real male equivalent of FinDom?

No, it's a word I picked up from a friend that I find wonderfully descriptive. Think, "I'm a fucking badass master and all you bitches will kneel before me now!". It's not hard to find a dominant profile that reads like that. I never saw that person at a MAsT meeting. My point is not that they are similar to findommes. My point is that someone's profile or even a lot of profiles do not describe reality. If I were to read profiles of "masters" (in the TPE sense) and expect that's what I would find at a MAsT meeting I would be VASTLY surprised when I actually went to the meeting. In fact, as SimplyMichael can attest to, I did have a bit of that going into my first MAsT meeting and made a bit of a fool of myself because of it.



Ah, yeah I've seen those types of profiles, such an unbridled arrogance. Don't get me wrong ive quite accurately been accused of being a cocky MFer (sorry is there a cursong policy here?), but even I dont take it that far. Gotta say, tad bit disappointed though. Would've totally made my night. The idea of keg tribute... Just a lost dream now.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/26/2012 5:16:27 PM   
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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/26/2012 5:40:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		hhmm...I wonder if Master would be considered to be a findom when he tells me to go out and buy something and doesn't give me money for it and just expects me to use my own? When I pay for dinner out, does that mean I'm giving him a tribute? When I buy him things because I like to buy him things, does that mean I'm financially serving him?

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/26/2012 5:59:19 PM   
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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/26/2012 6:22:47 PM   
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hhmm...I wonder if Master would be considered to be a findom when he tells me to go out and buy something and doesn't give me money for it and just expects me to use my own? When I pay for dinner out, does that mean I'm giving him a tribute? When I buy him things because I like to buy him things, does that mean I'm financially serving him?


I used to think it was hawt when I handed over my paycheck to R. Guess he was a findom too :)

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/26/2012 8:48:22 PM   
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[How many strippers have you actually known on an intimate (interpersonal not sexual -- friends) basis?

One lived with me for a while. That count?
As a result, I knew a few of her coworkers casually. Their one goal going into a shift was to make sure that zero dollars left the club.

For that, they sold a fantasy.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/26/2012 9:04:58 PM   
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Man, I just learn new things every day on these boards. It's what keeps me coming back.



It's why I keep coming back, too. Today I learned that I'm a stripper, which was definitely news to me. Last week I learned that I'm a prostitute, which is odd since I don't have sex but I yam what I yam, I guess.

:)

I love these forums.


But are any of the above immoral or are they just a way to make a living off guys who let their cock think for them?

ETA. You seem to think I'm denigrating FinDommes, strippers and prostitutes.
Im not. I'm denigrating those who hand their paycheck over to them.

Think with your BIG head folks.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/26/2012 9:16:54 PM   
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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/26/2012 9:21:52 PM   
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LOL yup, that sure counts. Your experience was different than mine though.

You probably hung out in higher class places.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/27/2012 3:23:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

Man, I just learn new things every day on these boards. It's what keeps me coming back.



It's why I keep coming back, too. Today I learned that I'm a stripper, which was definitely news to me. Last week I learned that I'm a prostitute, which is odd since I don't have sex but I yam what I yam, I guess.

:)

I love these forums.


But are any of the above immoral or are they just a way to make a living off guys who let their cock think for them?

ETA. You seem to think I'm denigrating FinDommes, strippers and prostitutes.
Im not. I'm denigrating those who hand their paycheck over to them.

Think with your BIG head folks.


Whether you're denigrating finDommes, strippers, prostitutes or the guys that hand over their cash to them really doesn't concern me. Your opinion is your opinion. I'm not here to try to change your mind. Hell, I'm not even offended that people don't like me because I'm a finDomme. All anyone ever sees are the bratty, entitled finDommes expecting the world on a silver platter so I understand the general disdain.

As far as any of the above being immoral, well I'm not here to judge so I guess that all depends on your personal beliefs.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/27/2012 9:56:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I read through this entire thread this morning.

Roch, I always enjoyed your posts but this thread was wonderful. Pro bashing and findomme bashing is horrible on these forums so it was a nice change to see a constructive discussion.

I am both a lifestyle and a pro switch. I have been active in the lifestyle since 1994, participate in munches, parties, and educational events as often as possible. My profile clearly states that I am both a lifestyle and proswitch. It also states VERY clearly, what I am looking for at this point regarding personals and sessions. There is no bait and switch, at least not on my part. Granted subs / doms pull the bait and switch a lot. They start out wanting a simple foot worship session, next thing you know they are asking you to work them over with a strap on. Lol

I do practice financial domination. I don’t enter into financial domination lightly with a finsub. We have many long discussions about why he is seeking such a relationship, his financial situation, income, expenses, and THEN I decide what is realistic for him or her. (Yes, I’ve had female finsubs)

I have a finsub who is a college student. Once a month him and I sit down, go over his income and expenses. I give him a limit on what he can give me and he has a choice to gift it to me in cash or surprise me with a present of his choosing. Throughout the month we are in contact via IM and emails.

I can’t tell you how many emails and comments I get from posters on these forums and random emails on the other side claiming I am a prostitute or can’t be a real switch because I am a pro. Hell because I do fetish videos and own sites.

I am FAR from a prostitute.

Even in my pro sessions, I am NEVER nude and there is no sexual contact.

As a pro switch, I not only am there for those sub men who want to experience a BDSM sessions, I am also there for the dominant men and women who want to experience a session. I actually do many pro sessions with dominants, where I sub for them. They are typically VERY new to the lifestyle and are looking for a safe place to get their feet wet. I feel honored when I am able to provide that for them.

The fact that they are paying for my services does not make the dynamics any less real.

ETA: I have read a lot of princess (18-19 yr old dommes) bashing even in this thread. From my experience even this is a REAL kink. There are many men who find it humiliating and taboo to be dominated by someone young enough to be their child. I've personally mentored several young dominant women who fit the princess bill.



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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/27/2012 10:15:44 AM   
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But are any of the above immoral or are they just a way to make a living off guys who let their cock think for them?

ETA. You seem to think I'm denigrating FinDommes, strippers and prostitutes.
Im not. I'm denigrating those who hand their paycheck over to them.

Think with your BIG head folks.




Who say's that a finsub is only thinking with his cock?

For many finsubs/slaves this has NOTHING to do with anything sexual. It is about a power exchange and for some it's about humiliation. For some it is how they desire to be of service to a domme which IMO opinion is no different than a service sub/slave that wants to come and clean my house.

There are MANY sub men who think their cock, I call them do me slaves not finsubs/slaves. But eh your mileage obviously varies.



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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/27/2012 12:16:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Money is power in most cultures so it's not surprising it comes into relationships so much. People can pay if they want to pay. It's not wrong and in the UK it's perfectly legal. Plenty of us pay in other ways anyway even in marriages - I paid a large divorce settlement to my ex husband (although I'm not saying that was very sexy at all - always marry someone who earns more I suppose is the lesson from that, but they are quite thin on the ground).....

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/27/2012 12:24:30 PM   
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Roch, I always enjoyed your posts but this thread was wonderful. Pro bashing and findomme bashing is horrible on these forums so it was a nice change to see a constructive discussion.



Thank you. I appreciate that.

I also appreciate you sharing your perspective as a (sometimes) financial Domme. I think that everyone will gain a much better understanding of this very polarizing kink as more and more financial Dommes share their stories/perspectives.

It wold be even better if a few financial subs were to join in. But as I said earlier in the thread, I really don't expect that to happen. People seem to have such a negative view of financial domination, so it would probably be difficult for a financial sub to admit that he enjoys something that so many think is stupid or abusive. If I were a financial sub, I probably wouldn't admit it publicly.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/27/2012 12:29:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree that THAT is exactly why more finsubs/slaves don't speak out in threads like this one.

Heck, even why many findommes stay silent.

They have seen and experienced the bashing and pure unfounded hate many posters here have for findommes and finsubs/slaves.



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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/27/2012 1:45:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with some that financials are a form of domination... the issue is if i put it on my profile will i be guaged a phony due to the negative vibe on this site about FIn anything.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 12/27/2012 1:51:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I guess it depends why you're putting it on your profile and what you hope to get out of it.

If it really is a kink of yours, then I say go for it. But having said that, I'd be interested to know how many females enjoy being financially dominated. This is not a snarky comment - I would genuinely like to know if being financially submissive is more of a male thing than a female thing (although I'm guessing it is).

If you're looking for a long-term, r/l relationship with a woman then I would maybe think twice about putting it on your profile unless it is a seriously important kink for you.



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