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TAFKAA -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/13/2013 10:27:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: AllisonWilder
Is managing someones finances a form of D/s?
No. Otherwise we'd be drowning in accountant Doms - except they seem to tend more to the sub side of things.

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I say yes. I say when you work for it, if you work extra/overtime for it, I say where it goes, be it a savings account, a 401k, bills, food, family, yourself, electronics, books, shoes, anything. If you are my sub, you ask to buy so much as a pack of gum because I control your money.
So your 'subs' are basically fools. Giving control of your money to someone you don't know is how people are swindled. They have absolutely no way of knowing what you'll do with it or if they'll end up in financial ruin. If they happen to have a family, they're wildly irresponsible fools.

And people honestly can't see why anyone would object to this? Wake up and smell the maple-nut crunch people. How many families go into penury because of this shit? Christ, no wonder you fuckers object to universal health care - you really don't give a flying fuck about anyone but yourselves.




TNDommeK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/13/2013 10:43:53 AM)

...nevermind




MariaB -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/13/2013 12:12:18 PM)

I think the whole thing is a great bit of marketing but I think thats all it is.




SirJ40 -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/13/2013 12:34:31 PM)

If those involved feel it's legit, and they're both enjoying it.. well, I'm not part of the situation, what I think doesn't matter so much. Each to their own, right?




TNDommeK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/13/2013 1:27:31 PM)

Exactly.




AllisonWilder -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/13/2013 1:41:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MariaB

Ok so they hand over all their bank passwords and account numbers to you? Sorry, but I'm just trying to get my head round you doing this online.


Oh, no. Nothing like that. I access their computer through Teamviewer and instruct them to open up their bank account page whenever I want to look at their account transactions or balance. It's safe for them because if at any moment they are uncomfortable, they just have to turn off their computer and I lose all Teamviewer access, it's safe for me because nobody can say that I was abusing their account, since I don't have direct access to it.

Now, it seems to me that you're under the impression that I'm virtual only. While I have ONE virtual submissive, I do meet with subs in person and I have one live-in slave, who has been with me for the last 3 years and 5 months. While it's nobody's business but ours, he isn't a financial sub. Our relationship has nothing to do with anything transactional, whatsoever.




AllisonWilder -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/13/2013 1:49:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TAFKAA


quote:

ORIGINAL: AllisonWilder
Is managing someones finances a form of D/s?
No. Otherwise we'd be drowning in accountant Doms - except they seem to tend more to the sub side of things.

quote:

I say yes. I say when you work for it, if you work extra/overtime for it, I say where it goes, be it a savings account, a 401k, bills, food, family, yourself, electronics, books, shoes, anything. If you are my sub, you ask to buy so much as a pack of gum because I control your money.
So your 'subs' are basically fools. Giving control of your money to someone you don't know is how people are swindled. They have absolutely no way of knowing what you'll do with it or if they'll end up in financial ruin. If they happen to have a family, they're wildly irresponsible fools.

And people honestly can't see why anyone would object to this? Wake up and smell the maple-nut crunch people. How many families go into penury because of this shit? Christ, no wonder you fuckers object to universal health care - you really don't give a flying fuck about anyone but yourselves.


No, they aren't fools. They're intelligent people. I also don't have dozens of them like you assume. I currently have two. One online, one in real-time, in my house, not more than 5 feet away at this time.

They haven't been left in financial ruin because I don't abuse my power. I am not a rinser, a wallet raper or a drainer, those terms do not accurately define me although they do accurately define what it is that you are describing.

No, I don't drain the bank accounts of unsuspecting families simply because I feel like it. I don't drain accounts, period as I am not a rinser. I also don't work with families. I work with single men who have no wife, no children to support. I have a family and I know how it would feel to have someone take from them without their knowledge, so I don't do it to others.

Again, stop saying that we don't care about anyone but ourselves because you don't know us, specifically. You only know the stereotype and generalization you've built up in your head about all findommes being greedy bitches. It's just that though, a stereotype.

And healthcare? Really? You think that I'm opposed to universal health care? Well, that proves that you really are just talking out of your ass because I am ALL FOR IT. It's also irrelevant to this discussion so try to stay on track, huh?




TNDommeK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/13/2013 2:28:51 PM)


No, they aren't fools. They're intelligent people. I also don't have dozens of them like you assume. I currently have two. One online, one in real-time, in my house, not more than 5 feet away at this time.

They haven't been left in financial ruin because I don't abuse my power. I am not a rinser, a wallet raper or a drainer, those terms do not accurately define me although they do accurately define what it is that you are describing.

No, I don't drain the bank accounts of unsuspecting families simply because I feel like it. I don't drain accounts, period as I am not a rinser. I also don't work with families. I work with single men who have no wife, no children to support. I have a family and I know how it would feel to have someone take from them without their knowledge, so I don't do it to others.

Again, stop saying that we don't care about anyone but ourselves because you don't know us, specifically. You only know the stereotype and generalization you've built up in your head about all findommes being greedy bitches. It's just that though, a stereotype.

And healthcare? Really? You think that I'm opposed to universal health care? Well, that proves that you really are just talking out of your ass because I am ALL FOR IT. It's also irrelevant to this discussion so try to stay on track, huh?



This^^^

It's irrational, and one sided thinking that leads to OPINIONS like his.




AllisonWilder -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/13/2013 4:28:38 PM)

TNDommeK, I understand where the opinions come from. I get that all people are exposed to are the bratty bitches flipping the bird and barely speaking to them, if they speak to them at all after. I've come across profile after profile that's filled with wishlist info, 'fuck you, pay me' crap, 'I'm better than you, little piggy, now pay to worship me' kinds of stuff so I get the frustration.

It certainly doesn't help that they multiply like rabbits and then come spew their 'I'm better than you, now pay me and bow to me' shit on the discussion board side. They make those of us that are actually involved in this life and that are into the fetish look like idiots. Because of all of that, it makes it harder for people to ever take us seriously, even though we've proven over and over that we're real people who can hold conversations and don't expect every person to pay for our time.

I'll never change someones mind about me and after 30 pages of me participating in this thread, I no longer expect to. I also no longer care. I am what I am, I'm honest about it, I'm up front about it and I know what I do isn't what people assume.




TNDommeK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/13/2013 6:39:24 PM)

I'm with you on that. And you are right, after as many pages as *we* have explained ourselves and how we do things, and is still a person attempting to tell us about *our* lifestyle, at some point I guess you just have to let them feel how they feel, even if it is wrong.




AllisonWilder -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/13/2013 7:27:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

I'm with you on that. And you are right, after as many pages as *we* have explained ourselves and how we do things, and is still a person attempting to tell us about *our* lifestyle, at some point I guess you just have to let them feel how they feel, even if it is wrong.


I don't necessarily even think their opinions are wrong, they're just wrong for us, if that makes sense. I can honestly say that if all I was exposed to was 18-year-old 'Doms' who act like every female on the planet should drop to her knees for them because they are Dom, hear them roar, well, then I'd probably have a bit of a biased opinion towards them, too. I see this as the same thing, just reversed.




TNDommeK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/13/2013 7:33:09 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: AllisonWilder


quote:

ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

I'm with you on that. And you are right, after as many pages as *we* have explained ourselves and how we do things, and is still a person attempting to tell us about *our* lifestyle, at some point I guess you just have to let them feel how they feel, even if it is wrong.


I don't necessarily even think their opinions are wrong, they're just wrong for us, if that makes sense. I can honestly say that if all I was exposed to was 18-year-old 'Doms' who act like every female on the planet should drop to her knees for them because they are Dom, hear them roar, well, then I'd probably have a bit of a biased opinion towards them, too. I see this as the same thing, just reversed.


Yes, but when you clearly explain and show them how you are different, and they still attempt to lump you in the same category, then clearly....they don't want to learn.




PunderCover -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/13/2013 11:09:43 PM)

ooops




TNDommeK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/14/2013 12:40:56 AM)

Um....sock?




FindommeJinx -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/14/2013 9:45:06 AM)

smiles.... yes IT IS a form of BDSM




TheLilSquaw -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/14/2013 9:45:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

Um....sock?



Um... confused. Lol




TNDommeK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/14/2013 10:08:04 AM)

Me too....lol




TNDommeK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/14/2013 4:47:55 PM)

Ok so where were we?

Ah, I think it is not ok to lump us all in the same category. We are all different. I think there is as much a supply and demand for the bratty princess profiles as it is for dommes like us.




IWillTeachYouGir -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/23/2013 6:38:53 AM)

This was all a very cool read to be honest.

To me it has always boiled down to: Would you be this way if no money was involved? That should determine the legitimacy of it. That said, people should do whatever they want, if you are into this and get paid for it, more power to you. The whole point of this entire "lifestyle" should be to be yourself anyways. Otherwise we would all just try to fit to some strict moral code of living.

For the Dancer in here, you girls work you butts off, more power to you if you find enjoyment in it, regulars, and making good money.

As for the fake adds, etc. All of us are supposed to be adults on here and it is the internet. If dudes want to throw their money at fake profiles, etc. let them. For them it is probably a rush and safer then getting busted calling an escort or something. That is why they do it. They know it isn't real.




TheLilSquaw -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (1/23/2013 6:45:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: IWillTeachYouGir


To me it has always boiled down to: Would you be this way if no money was involved? That should determine the legitimacy of it.



So does that mean that teachers that don't teach for FREE aren't really teachers?
Does that mean if my mechanic doesn't fix my car for FREE that he isn't really a mechanic?

Really? Lol




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