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nephandi -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (9/14/2012 3:55:03 AM)
Greetings quote: Why do people get upset with whiny, entitled profiles in general? Nice-Guyism and whining about fakes/liars get a hide thoroughly tanned. Expecting a swarm of subs to pay tribute has very much the same vibe. That is what I am wondering about as well, would not the hide profile button work to avoid such irritation. I have never gotten anoyed over a profile, if I see one I do not like I just shake my head and move on. I wish you well

Rochsub2009 -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (9/14/2012 7:48:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subkarih Financial domination? The IRS had been doing that to me for years.... And I thought that I was their only financial slave. I guess the IRS is polyamorous. [:D]

Rochsub2009 -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (9/14/2012 7:57:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: nephandi would not the hide profile button work to avoid such irritation? I agree. That's the general approach that I tend to use. Whenever I see a profile for a 19-22 year old financial Domme, I simply hit the "hide profile" button, and I never see that profile again. The problem that I have is that I've hit the "hide" button so often that when I do a search for Dommes, only 3 profiles show up. [:D]

TNDommeK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (9/14/2012 12:09:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: nephandi Greetings quote: I kinda agree with FF on the worthless part. It bugs me when I hear shit like "worthless, useless, etc". Sometimes I wanna say things like "Bitch if he is worthless or useless you aren't using him right!!" But I don't. My male fin. slaves are far from worthless. Each of them have a very important job when it comes to what I want. Humiliation is one thing, but the whole song and dance of "gimme all your money worthless pig" is lame. This is a kink to, I am definitely not into it but being told that one is worthless and so on is part of for many, and what is wrong with that as long as everyone involved are willing. I know several subs who get off on being called worthless, it is a kink like any other, just like some subs like to be called sluts or whores, what is the problem? I wish you well Yea I agreed with that as well when I said "humiliation is one thing". Meaning some people are into that. But to start of the bat with it, just isn't My style at all. I feel IMO that one should get to know the differences between each sub before assuming there are all into being called worthless.

nephandi -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (9/14/2012 1:04:29 PM)
Greetings quote: Yea I agreed with that as well when I said "humiliation is one thing". Meaning some people are into that. But to start of the bat with it, just isn't My style at all. I feel IMO that one should get to know the differences between each sub before assuming there are all into being called worthless. If a sub not not like being called worthless I assume he or she is able to take that up with their Dom and either talk about the problem or leave that Dom's service, they they really need random strangers playing internet police to protect them such a word? I wish you well

kitkat105 -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (9/14/2012 1:05:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009 quote: ORIGINAL: subkarih Financial domination? The IRS had been doing that to me for years.... And I thought that I was their only financial slave. I guess the IRS is polyamorous. [:D] Polyamorous? More like polyfuckery.. and not the good kind!

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (9/14/2012 3:28:09 PM)
I think Roch has a blue hayud.

TNDommeK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (9/16/2012 2:21:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: nephandi Greetings quote: Yea I agreed with that as well when I said "humiliation is one thing". Meaning some people are into that. But to start of the bat with it, just isn't My style at all. I feel IMO that one should get to know the differences between each sub before assuming there are all into being called worthless. If a sub not not like being called worthless I assume he or she is able to take that up with their Dom and either talk about the problem or leave that Dom's service, they they really need random strangers playing internet police to protect them such a word? I wish you well Thus the reason why I don't say anything. It isn't My place unless they belong to Me. So I guess to each their own.

AllisonWilder -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 7:34:33 AM)
This thread is old (and long, I just read the entire thing!) and I'm bringing it back from the dead. Oh, and hi everyone, I'm new here! I'm Allison. I'm a finDomme. I'm not some young punk flipping the bird to everyone and demanding money from people before they've even said two words to me, although there are plenty of girls out there that do. (They're less finDomme and more Bratty Princess, which is another, very legitimate fetish.) There are plenty of GOOD finDomme's out there like me. I do not set out to bankrupt anyone. I ask questions before we start anything. I want to know the state of their finances, what their bills/debt is like, what they have left over after paying bills/debt/buying food/necessities/etc. If I feel like even taking $20 from a finsub would leave them short, I refuse it. I get to know these subs as people because I would want them to do the same for me if the situation was reversed. The majority of men that find me WANT to be told that they're worthless, useless, disgusting, etc. These are not terms that I throw around easily. I get to know the likes and dislikes of my sub so as not to cross lines, boundaries or cause pain. These subs don't just give me their money and walk away, not do I walk away from them. They get things in return. Calls, texts, my attention, emails, letters, cookies, cam shows, pictures, videos, this list could go on and on. They are paying for a service that I have no problem providing. This is not only a legitimate fetish/kink, it's a legitimate business. I'm a camgirl and a fetish model, but my camming, fetish modeling and finDomme lives are separate. I don't display myself the same way for any of those things. I feel like I'm rambling and getting off track, but I wanted to chime in and say that not every finDomme is some stuck-up twat whining about bills and draining the wallets of unsuspecting men.

Rochsub2009 -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 8:10:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AllisonWilder These subs don't just give me their money and walk away, nor do I walk away from them. They get things in return. Calls, texts, my attention, emails, letters, cookies, cam shows, pictures, videos, this list could go on and on. They are paying for a service that I have no problem providing. ..............not every finDomme is some stuck-up twat whining about bills and draining the wallets of unsuspecting men. Thank you for participating in the thread, AllisonWilder. IMO we didn't have enough input from financial Dommes, so it's good to have another one chime in. IMO, financial Dommes (like you) who actually provide a service are very much needed. As you mentioned, there are men out there who crave what you provide. Personally, it's the 19 year old "bratty princesses" that bother me. But I guess there are probably some who crave what they provide as well. BTW, I see this was your first post, so welcome to the boards.

VincilagniaUK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 11:37:43 AM)
Many people have mentioned financial domination alongside other kinks in a 'whatever floats your boat / live and let live' kind of way. It would be fantastic if CM could actually include it in the interests or orientations user options so that it's possible to filter in or filter out financial dominants from the results displayed. Personally I'm not sure what I think is more sad, men being stupid enough to part with money so easily to complete strangers doing scams, or the women that have so little moral fibre as to play on the feelings of other people for financial gain and so little sense of shame to openly state this. Guy's just report them for scamming, thats what I do, eventually thier profiles should get pulled if enough reports are made.

OsideGirl -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 11:41:43 AM)
Dude.....dicks as your primary photo/avatar are against TOS. Why do you think it's okay to flop your dick out into the middle of a discussion?

VincilagniaUK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 11:44:10 AM)
Sorry, I didn't realise that, I will change it asap, I see what you mean now looking at the board in context. No offence meant.

AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 12:12:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: VincilagniaUK Many people have mentioned financial domination alongside other kinks in a 'whatever floats your boat / live and let live' kind of way. It would be fantastic if CM could actually include it in the interests or orientations user options so that it's possible to filter in or filter out financial dominants from the results displayed. Personally I'm not sure what I think is more sad, men being stupid enough to part with money so easily to complete strangers doing scams, or the women that have so little moral fibre as to play on the feelings of other people for financial gain and so little sense of shame to openly state this. Guy's just report them for scamming, thats what I do, eventually thier profiles should get pulled if enough reports are made. RE the bolded part: guys getting involved with these women know what they are signing up for. This is not the same as making someone believe you want a romantic relationship with them and then hitting them up for money. And as for making money from people's emotions - well hell, the economy relies on that. Florists make money from people sending condolence flowers, 'psychics' make money from people who are worried about the future, marriage guidance counselors make money from failing relationships, jewelry companies make money from loved-up guys buying engagement rings... why not make money by calling people worthless piggies? It's not my thing, but I don't think it's morally worse than a whole bunch of other stuff.

VincilagniaUK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 12:30:47 PM)
Athena, I partly agree with you, anyone daft enough to become involved in such an arrangement knowningly and willingly deserves what they get. The problem is, many of these scammers don't fully make thier intentions clear and that is where is becomes deciet, hence my own ideal of having a seperate catagory for 'fin-doms' in the interests section or better still as an orientation option. Personally I would have less of a problem with it then as I wouldn't be subject to the constant irritation of having to see these profiles - kinda like opt-in advertising. i think the general lack of response from financial dommes on this thread speaks volumes about the self-percieved validity of it and of the ones that have replied there is nothing in thier attempted justifications to contradict this. Just further up this page there is a fin domme spouting some b/s about herself and her own validity, like - "There are plenty of GOOD finDomme's out there like me. I do not set out to bankrupt anyone. I ask questions before we start anything. I want to know the state of their finances, what their bills/debt is like, what they have left over after paying bills/debt/buying food/necessities/etc. If I feel like even taking $20 from a finsub would leave them short, I refuse it. I get to know these subs as people because I would want them to do the same for me if the situation was reversed. " So if the sub comes to you the following month because he is short on his mortgage, car payment, rent etc you'll give them the money, so long as you are in a position to do so? Hahahahahahahahaha

AllisonWilder -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 12:51:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: VincilagniaUK Many people have mentioned financial domination alongside other kinks in a 'whatever floats your boat / live and let live' kind of way. It would be fantastic if CM could actually include it in the interests or orientations user options so that it's possible to filter in or filter out financial dominants from the results displayed. Personally I'm not sure what I think is more sad, men being stupid enough to part with money so easily to complete strangers doing scams, or the women that have so little moral fibre as to play on the feelings of other people for financial gain and so little sense of shame to openly state this. Guy's just report them for scamming, thats what I do, eventually thier profiles should get pulled if enough reports are made. It's posts like this that show me why there were so few replies from actual finDommes or finsubs. Being told that I have 'so little moral fibre as to play on the feelings of other people for financial gain and so little sense of shame' is rude and offensive. I did not wake up one day and decide that I would be a finDomme and try to "scam" poor men out of their money. I was approached, while live on camera, by a man that wanted me to financially control him. I just laughed at him first because what he was asking me to do was ridiculous. Through conversation and chatting on the phone I learned a lot about it and told him I would dip my toe into the water. He's still with me 13 months later. I do not approach men and ask them for anything. They seek me out. I also don't try to play off what I am as being better than anyone else because that's not true either. I am a finDomme, but that is in no way me trying to say that I'm a Pro-Domme. (Although we both take money for what we do, because I don't fit the part for everything else, I'm immediately mocked and treated like scum.) And thank you Roch, for your warm welcome.

AllisonWilder -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 12:57:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: VincilagniaUK Athena, I partly agree with you, anyone daft enough to become involved in such an arrangement knowningly and willingly deserves what they get. The problem is, many of these scammers don't fully make thier intentions clear and that is where is becomes deciet, hence my own ideal of having a seperate catagory for 'fin-doms' in the interests section or better still as an orientation option. Personally I would have less of a problem with it then as I wouldn't be subject to the constant irritation of having to see these profiles - kinda like opt-in advertising. i think the general lack of response from financial dommes on this thread speaks volumes about the self-percieved validity of it and of the ones that have replied there is nothing in thier attempted justifications to contradict this. Just further up this page there is a fin domme spouting some b/s about herself and her own validity, like - "There are plenty of GOOD finDomme's out there like me. I do not set out to bankrupt anyone. I ask questions before we start anything. I want to know the state of their finances, what their bills/debt is like, what they have left over after paying bills/debt/buying food/necessities/etc. If I feel like even taking $20 from a finsub would leave them short, I refuse it. I get to know these subs as people because I would want them to do the same for me if the situation was reversed. " So if the sub comes to you the following month because he is short on his mortgage, car payment, rent etc you'll give them the money, so long as you are in a position to do so? Hahahahahahahahaha You are damn right I would give them money. I have two finsubs. I don't have dozens of unsuspecting men that I'm draining the wallets of. I have TWO subs that I have learned and grown with. I know what their situations are and wouldn't let them get short on anything. I just want to repeat, it's posts like this that make me certain of the reason that not many people have stepped forward to discuss. I even went so far as to say that there are these bratty princess types, that I don't agree with. I think it's ridiculous that you just shoot down every poster that you don't agree with.

OsideGirl -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 12:58:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: VincilagniaUK So if the sub comes to you the following month because he is short on his mortgage, car payment, rent etc you'll give them the money, so long as you are in a position to do so? Hahahahahahahahaha A FinDomme/sub relationship is a business relationship. Would you ask the power company for money back if you were short of money?

pyschosubmission -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 1:02:09 PM)
Dude, take a chill pill you're only going to give yourself an aneurysm

VincilagniaUK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 1:12:25 PM)
It's not personal, like the old saying - criticise the behaviour not the child. What exactly were you doing on cam in the first instance? did it by any chance involve guys and money? You have just explained the contradiction better than I could have done myself. You're approached by a guy that wants you to do this, so you're (apparently) doing what he wants. Well if it's what he wants then it's not really domination so then you'd just be a financial-taker rather than a financial dominant. If it isn't what he wants then it's financial exploitation. Ergo a so called 'financial domme' is by default either not a domme, or looking to exploit. Granted you seem a lot more articulate and composed than many of the fin dommes I have had the misfortune of contact with here and elsewhere but that doesn't derive from the fact that what you do is very very low. I think if you were to ask the normal 'man on the street', he'd tell you that it's not a very nice thing to do, on a basic, human, interpersonal level.

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