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VincilagniaUK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 1:16:18 PM)

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A FinDomme/sub relationship is a business relationship. Would you ask the power company for money back if you were short of money?

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Then people involved in it should list themselves clearly as business (IMO). And I would ask for my money back from the power company if they tried to make a big deal about it being a caring, two way relationship as the subject of my comments did earlier in this thread.




AllisonWilder -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 1:36:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VincilagniaUK

It's not personal, like the old saying - criticise the behaviour not the child.

What exactly were you doing on cam in the first instance? did it by any chance involve guys and money?

You have just explained the contradiction better than I could have done myself. You're approached by a guy that wants you to do this, so you're (apparently) doing what he wants. Well if it's what he wants then it's not really domination so then you'd just be a financial-taker rather than a financial dominant. If it isn't what he wants then it's financial exploitation. Ergo a so called 'financial domme' is by default either not a domme, or looking to exploit.

Granted you seem a lot more articulate and composed than many of the fin dommes I have had the misfortune of contact with here and elsewhere but that doesn't derive from the fact that what you do is very very low. I think if you were to ask the normal 'man on the street', he'd tell you that it's not a very nice thing to do, on a basic, human, interpersonal level.


My behavior doesn't need to be criticized, nor am I a child.

I was approached by a guy who opened my eyes to this world. I came to the conclusion all on my own. Maybe to most I am just a financial taker, but I don't see it that way. I also don't see it as exploitation, but it's clear that we'll never agree and I won't try to force you to do so.

I make it perfectly clear to people I come in contact with here who I am and what I'm about. I don't tolerate time-wasters and I don't do it to others. If this isn't your thing, that's totally fine with me.

Also, if I were to ask the 'normal man on the street' it's likely that he'd think that what you do isn't a very nice thing either. I won't ask him though as his opinions have no bearing on my decisions and those decisions of my finsubs.

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A FinDomme/sub relationship is a business relationship. Would you ask the power company for money back if you were short of money?



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Then people involved in it should list themselves clearly as business (IMO). And I would ask for my money back from the power company if they tried to make a big deal about it being a caring, two way relationship as the subject of my comments did earlier in this thread.


I do market myself as business. I cannot speak for other finDommes or Bratty Princesses as I have no control over how they represent themselves.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't good D/s relationships supposed to be centered on caring and trust? Would a good Dom not take care of His sub if said sub had fallen on hard times?





VincilagniaUK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 2:03:48 PM)

I wouldn't expect you to see it as exploitation Allison, or view yourself as a financial-taker, denial and dillusion is something I have found common in my aforementioned interactions with your sort. It's your own choice (and rightly so) if you choose to insulate yourself from the opinions of others but since this is a forum then other people's views and opinions are likely to be shared.

I'd love to know what you think it is that I do that would be so frowned upon? I've never expoited money from anyone unless you know differently?

Are you actually serious? I took the courtesy of having a look at your profile as I was interested to see if there was any substance to your repeated suggestions that you are somehow 'different' than some or most as a fin domme and I couldn't even get past the first sentance. Consider this; I am a fish, but I am not wet, or slippery and I don't live in water. Now re-read your opening sentance.

I completely agree with you that good D/s relationships being certered on care and trust, however I'm not sure of the relevence here because financial domination has got nothing to do with good D/s relationships. Also you weren't clear about whether your considerate and caring approach to findomme extends to paying the subs way when/if they fall upon hard times?




OsideGirl -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 2:07:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: VincilagniaUK

I wouldn't expect you to see it as exploitation Allison, or view yourself as a financial-taker, denial and dillusion is something I have found common in my aforementioned interactions with your sort. It's your own choice (and rightly so) if you choose to insulate yourself from the opinions of others but since this is a forum then other people's views and opinions are likely to be shared.


Unless that opinion is that my kink is okay, but yours isn't.




VincilagniaUK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 2:14:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Unless that opinion is that my kink is okay, but yours isn't.



I'm not condemning anyone's kinks, I am condemning the masquerading of exploitation as kinks. Questions about the validity of this particular 'kink' are surely to be expected given the title of the thread.




pyschosubmission -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 2:18:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: VincilagniaUK

I'd love to know what you think it is that I do that would be so frowned upon?


Showing me your arse for one, didn't ask for that




AllisonWilder -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 2:18:50 PM)

I'm not only brand new to these forums, I'm brand new to the site. My profile for my one day old account is meaningless to this conversation. I've changed it 4 times already and I can't quite get it right. I'm not perfect. Not only are my kinks not limited to Financial Domination, I wasn't even sure I wanted it listed. There's more to me than meets the eye and it's hard to convey all of that in a profile while I'm still figuring my way around the site.

What I meant was, take any average man off the street and ask him how he feels about being tied up in bondage like your profile picture displays. I doubt he'll think that's okay just as you don't find my kink to be okay. I say to each their own.

I mentioned in a previous post that I would absolutely help a sub if they had fallen on hard times, I didn't mention it in my last post as I viewed that to be redundant.






VincilagniaUK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 2:28:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pyschosubmission


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ORIGINAL: VincilagniaUK

I'd love to know what you think it is that I do that would be so frowned upon?


Showing me your arse for one, didn't ask for that


You can always disable images in your browser if it's so offensive to you, and if it is I'd be careful browsing around the rest of the site if i were you.




pyschosubmission -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 2:34:53 PM)

Every other thread is fine...




VincilagniaUK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 2:44:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pyschosubmission

Every other thread is fine...


Thats great news, hopefully this attrocity has lost it's shock value now [:D]




pyschosubmission -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 2:50:22 PM)

You sound like a great catch, practically bursting with positivity!




searching4mysir -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 2:54:13 PM)

Do you really think AllisonWilder gives flying fuck what you think about what she does? You, cupcake, are not her target audience.

Would you think it odd if I were to say that my dom controls my finances? He decides how much of my salary can be allocated to charity, housing, food, casual spending, savings, etc. Does he have less control because I've chosen to give it to him? How is that any different?




VincilagniaUK -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 2:59:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pyschosubmission

You sound like a great catch, practically bursting with positivity!


Don't you have anything to contribute to the actual topic? or are you just passing time?




pyschosubmission -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 3:12:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: VincilagniaUK

Don't you have anything to contribute to the actual topic? or are you just passing time?



I've contributed far more than yourself good sir, if we were to compare the arguments proposed by AllisonWilder to your own, we find that hers are eloquently written, thought out and personal. Whereas you have based your argument in derision.




OsideGirl -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 3:21:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pyschosubmission


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ORIGINAL: VincilagniaUK

Don't you have anything to contribute to the actual topic? or are you just passing time?



I've contributed far more than yourself good sir, if we were to compare the arguments proposed by AllisonWilder to your own, we find that hers are eloquently written, thought out and personal. Whereas you have based your argument in derision.


Exactly.




AllisonWilder -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 3:21:34 PM)

I understand that not everyone agrees with financial domination. I'm not out to change any opinions.

I noticed this forum thread while browsing and decided to read it in its entirety. I also noticed that there were not very many FinDommes or finsubs that came forward, quite possibly to avoid this situation, so I wanted to give a little perspective on the subject.




pyschosubmission -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 3:28:56 PM)

And I thank you for that Allison, I always enjoy reading other people's eloquent opinions.




THEDEVILMAYCARE -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 3:30:26 PM)

And your perspective is




THEDEVILMAYCARE -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 3:32:27 PM)

Why have I got a vanilla ice cream.that's rubbish how do I change it




OsideGirl -> RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? (10/8/2012 3:34:10 PM)

You can't. It's based on the number of posts that you have.




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