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plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/29/2012 8:47:25 PM

subsandywhich

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Hey i am a collared slave whose Owners just dropped the heart wrenching bomb on me that in the, hopefully far off, event of heir death i will be leftt almost everything. i am of course honored and touched but i wondered how other Owners plan for this sort of thing

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/29/2012 8:51:48 PM

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My submissive was a degreed professional when I met her, able to support herself. When I pass, she will still be a degreed professional, able to support herself.

I will leave her things in my will but I have others to think of as well.

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/29/2012 9:00:25 PM

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We're married in a community property state and have no children. I automatically get everything.

Although, he has joked that he is willing possession of me to one of our friends. (At least I think he's joking)

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/29/2012 9:04:45 PM

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Thank you Sir

i knew that there had to be other Owners who planned for their slaves after their death, im really conflicted on how to show my Master and Mistress how honored and, well, stunned that they would do that.

i have a degree and can support myself but am allowed to remain home, and i cherrish every moment of it

If i may also ask the Master/Mistress types, how would you fell i should express my thanks withiout trivializing it and still seem genuine?

Perhaps im overthinking this, i have really bad ocd and tend to over-analyze

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/29/2012 9:08:11 PM

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Lol, yeah, ive been "threatened" to be willed to my Mistress' friend. Shes cool though and i love her almost as much as Mistress. She usually responds by reminding me to pack my toothbrush because i wont need anything else

While i am not legally married, as my Master and Mistress are, i am handfasted to both of Them, the only thing missing is a marriage certificate

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/29/2012 9:28:37 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: subsandywhich

Lol, yeah, ive been "threatened" to be willed to my Mistress' friend. Shes cool though and i love her almost as much as Mistress. She usually responds by reminding me to pack my toothbrush because i wont need anything else

While i am not legally married, as my Master and Mistress are, i am handfasted to both of Them, the only thing missing is a marriage certificate

Bambi is not a lawyer. Bambi is not your lawyer. Nothing in Bambi's response should suggest in any way that a lawyer client relationship has been formed. Bambi is a total stranger from a website loaded with perverts and DarkSteven.

If your master passes and you are not married, and have no will, you get nothing. If he has no will, dying intestate, his earthly possessions will be sent through a process called "probate" where the law and judges basically assign his stuff to family. If he means to will you anything, it needs to be in writing.

Do you have an executed will? If yes, then when he ultimately passes, hopefully many long years from now, you might get the property.

No will? His words are a kind compliment, though nothing more.

Edit to add my actual answer to your question: As implied above, I would formalize a will.

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/29/2012 9:37:35 PM

subsandywhich

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He has an existing will already

This morning They told me that They have an appointment with Their lawyer to change the will to include me in early september. i nearly fainted

Yes, hopefully it will be decades before i have to deal with Their absence, the hole it would leave is unimaginable

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/29/2012 11:10:14 PM

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Well we are married so I'm provided for in as far as our shared assets would be mine, but he doesn't need to put any special provisions in place for me because I;n capable of supporting myself.

I don't know your owners so I don't know what they would appreciate, but I'd probably just sit down and express how touched and grateful you are.

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/30/2012 8:18:50 AM

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My slave goes to college. She's gonna be far better equipped to make money in the world (Not that she didn't have skills previously) after I'm gone than before she met me.
Kana is a firm, firm believer in the saying, "Give a man a fish and he'll be hungry tomorrow. Teach a man to fish and he can feed his family forever."

Meanwhile, far more importantly,

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Bambi is a total stranger from a website loaded with perverts and DarkSteven.

WTF? Since when is DS not a pervert? Is he a nilla infiltrator, Mitt's eye in the sky, not the Undercover Brother but the Undercover Lover, Federal law enforcement, a spy for FetL, a slave sent to infiltrate the One Twue Doms Union (Patent pending), a Mod incognito?
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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/30/2012 3:32:58 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: subsandywhich

Hey i am a collared slave whose Owners just dropped the heart wrenching bomb on me that in the, hopefully far off, event of heir death i will be leftt almost everything. i am of course honored and touched but i wondered how other Owners plan for this sort of thing

They must not be watchers of Investigation Discovery. If it was me, I wouldn't have been so forthcoming with that information.

Also, ain't it funny how the men here are assuming they'll die first?

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/30/2012 3:50:17 PM

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My first dom died on me - in my house. He had no assets to speak of, just some equipment that i ended up selling. He didn't want his family to know that he was dying , so i abided by his wishes.
What he had, he wanted me to have, which is one reason i think, that he didn't want contact with his family. Obviously they weren't close.

He repeatedly said he wished he had more to leave me, but i worked full time before i met him, i worked full time while i was with him, and i continue to work full time.

His dying left a huge hole in my heart. I have a sweetie that l love very much - as much as i loved him, but in a completely different way, and he has made provision for me as well - a bit more formally though.

When he told me what he was doing, i kissed him and told him that i loved him, and would rather have him than cash. We really haven't talked about it since.
Its something of a sore topic for me for obvious reasons. I don't want to have to go through having someone i love that much die on me again. Infact when i was looking for a dom the second time, age and health came into the discussion with all the prospects. I'm a bit paranoid about health issues with my sweetie for that reason.

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/30/2012 4:25:12 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: subsandywhich
i am of course honored and touched but i wondered how other Owners plan for this sort of thing.

I married her :)

In general I favor Kana's approach but, of course, everyone's life situation is different. I favor a plan which is appropriate for the actual situation.

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/30/2012 5:00:48 PM

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Statistically speaking, men usually do die first.

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Life spans county to county across the USA range on average from 66.1 to 81.6 years for men and 73.5 to 86 years for women.
Source

On topic: Awesome! Congrats. Perhaps a cake would be appropriate. Or a homemade, really fancy dinner prepared as a surprise. (Candles are a nice touch on a surprise dinner, I've found.)

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/30/2012 5:51:53 PM

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Kana and I share the same philosophy. The girls I had went to college and eventually we parted ways when thier education took them in different directions. I wasn't going to hold them back by insisting they stay and serve me instead of fullfilling thier own ambitions and dreams in life. In fact, I encouraged it, often at great protest that they complete to thier studies before any intimate activities were allowed. Often I proof read papers, checked math and microbiology homework, helped them pick thier financial aid packets, and helped them in thier search for continuing thier education. I even helped one pick her internship. I've always kept a small nest egg on the side, in the event of some kind of untimely act of chaos I be struck down, my charge(s) will have some financial support available to them, as well as all of my expenses covered and property distributed. I started that back when I recieved my orders for my first tour. I had a standing will in place before I even shipped off, and just amended it to suit my circumstances over the years since.

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/30/2012 5:54:59 PM

Baroana

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Yeah but...... are these your slaves or your kids?

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/30/2012 6:07:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: BambiBoi

Bambi is a total stranger from a website loaded with perverts and DarkSteven.

My GOD! All of you people on this site... you're PERVERTS!!!!

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The small-breasted ones want larger breasts. The large-breasted ones want smaller ones. The straight-haired ones curl their hair, and the curly-haired ones straighten theirs...

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/30/2012 7:57:36 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

quote:

ORIGINAL: BambiBoi

Bambi is a total stranger from a website loaded with perverts and DarkSteven.

My GOD! All of you people on this site... you're PERVERTS!!!!

HEY!!!

I resemble that remark.

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/30/2012 8:01:20 PM

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lol

and thank you DarkSteven - i resemble that remark as well!

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/30/2012 8:22:23 PM

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This is similar to what a lot of children of elderly parents have dealt with upon the passing of one of the pair. When there are clear roles, the good news is there isn't too much squabbling over who's "job" it is. On the other hand, it can mean that the other has no idea about the part that is NOT their "job". My folks have reached their mid-fifties and we kids are making a point of seeing to it they both know where the will is, what to do with it when it is needed, everything there is to know about their life, health and other insurances, where all the money is, what debts and assets there area and what needs to be done with or about them. We are active in making sure they are aware of how many common scams work. We have safeguards in place so they don't lose everything they've worked for all their lives before they don't need it anymore. They are smart, together, and egalitarian people, but we want them prepared. Fifty is not old at all, but may well be too late to start at 80-something too. We are also making sure we know their wishes and plans for end of life decisions and funeral arrangements. We want to respect them even after death.

This situation is often different in legal standing, if nothing else. If you want your slave to have ANYTHING, there has to be completely binding will. I don't care if it is just your final stockpile of toilet paper, if it isn't willed, then legally it is not guaranteed to go where you want it to go. Consider keeping education, skills, and licensures up to date as well so that there is no loss of employability. Additionally, there has to be a degree of creditworthiness in place. The slave cannot even get a place to live without at least some minimal credit history. This is just real life stuff. Have a safety net plan too,if there is a possibility the will may be contested because until then, no one gets a darn thing. Some access to funds in their name may be appropriate. If one is going to have full control and use of a person, then hopefully anything they would lack due to that service needs to be provided for. Aside from the legal standing, this applies to marriages, children, and anyone else one wishes to protect. Double and triple guard those who are important. They deserve it.

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RE: plans for slaves in the event of Owners death - 8/30/2012 10:02:13 PM

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He'd expect me to get on with life the same way I did before him. I've already had a husband die on me so I'm extremely experienced in dealing with death of a partner. I would fall apart for probably a good long while like before but eventually I would kick myself in the ass to try and rejoin life again. I would resume working and doing things on my own again that same way I had to do after my husband died. The only difference now is thankfully I don't have a young child anymore to worry about how I'm going to raise her on my own.

He has no desire for a dumb slave who can't take care of herself. He expects me to do so when he's not around. If I couldn't I don't think he would have stayed with me all these years.

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