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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/3/2012 3:35:38 PM   
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If I were part of Obama's team, I might coin a term like, "There they go again" or "Its facts like those that led us into the IRAQ war...." or "if you elect those guys it will be IRAQ II."

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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/3/2012 4:43:43 PM   
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Because it's shit, and he knows it. Now everyone else knows it too.


Not everyone, I bet subrob will vote for him and that's what the party is banking on.


You'd lose that bet. I don't have to vote for Romney, he'll win Indiana without my vote.

I love how you guys keep parroting the talking points... It's just a matter of time before you guys are saying "There are no Republicans in the White House" after Romney wins in November.

Even Carville knows Obama is in deep shit... Keep thirsty, my friends.


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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/3/2012 5:23:46 PM   
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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/3/2012 6:24:11 PM   
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What MM fails to see, or refuses to disclose is, this is one opinion written by the 100 or so bloggers on the White House's talking point memo CC list.

None of these "journalists" researched a damn thing for themselves, they were told what to write, and followed orders. They all contain the so called 5 "lies" and how unprecedented and low this campaign is...

And the most amazing thing of all is the way the left takes the catch phrase of the moment and repeats it ad nauesum.

Can anyone tell what the catch phrase of the month is?

If you guessed "fact checkers" or "fact check" you win a Kewpie doll... How many of these articles use the phrase?

Fucking amazing !
This is how ridiculous it has gotten,the right now wants to put forth the supposition that the phrase "Fact check " now equals some sort of left wing conspiracy


"We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers," Romney pollster Neil Newhouse said at a panel organized by ABC News.



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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/3/2012 7:12:39 PM   
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Because it's shit, and he knows it. Now everyone else knows it too.


Not everyone, I bet subrob will vote for him and that's what the party is banking on.


You'd lose that bet. I don't have to vote for Romney, he'll win Indiana without my vote.

I love how you guys keep parroting the talking points... It's just a matter of time before you guys are saying "There are no Republicans in the White House" after Romney wins in November.

Even Carville knows Obama is in deep shit... Keep thirsty, my friends.


You have to learn to read more than the headlines. Your link says:

"According to a new poll conducted by Democracy Corps (the James Carville/Stan Greenberg-founded firm), Mitt Romney is leading by 16 points among independents, 54 percent to Barack Obama’s 38 percent. Twenty-six percent of independents think the country is going in the right direction; 68 percent think it is going on the wrong track. Forty percent of independents approve of Obama, while 56 percent disapprove.

The overall poll isn’t a terrific win for Romney — he’s at 47 percent to Obama’s 49 percent — but if he’s opened up a gap anywhere near this large among independent voters, that’s certainly a hopeful trend for him.

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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/3/2012 11:17:59 PM   
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Oh so you arent voting for Romney? Or are you just not voting?


I'm voting, just not for Romney... Pence is running for Governor, Mourdock is running for Senate, both of those guys are getting my vote.

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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/3/2012 11:20:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subrob1967


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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Because it's shit, and he knows it. Now everyone else knows it too.


Not everyone, I bet subrob will vote for him and that's what the party is banking on.


You'd lose that bet. I don't have to vote for Romney, he'll win Indiana without my vote.

I love how you guys keep parroting the talking points... It's just a matter of time before you guys are saying "There are no Republicans in the White House" after Romney wins in November.

Even Carville knows Obama is in deep shit... Keep thirsty, my friends.


You have to learn to read more than the headlines. Your link says:

"According to a new poll conducted by Democracy Corps (the James Carville/Stan Greenberg-founded firm), Mitt Romney is leading by 16 points among independents, 54 percent to Barack Obama’s 38 percent. Twenty-six percent of independents think the country is going in the right direction; 68 percent think it is going on the wrong track. Forty percent of independents approve of Obama, while 56 percent disapprove.

The overall poll isn’t a terrific win for Romney — he’s at 47 percent to Obama’s 49 percent — but if he’s opened up a gap anywhere near this large among independent voters, that’s certainly a hopeful trend for him.




Is Obama going to win without the independents? No.

Is he going to get the youth turn out he had in 08? No.

Is he fucked without those two demographics? Yes.

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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/4/2012 2:39:34 AM   
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You'd lose that bet. I don't have to vote for Romney, he'll win Indiana without my vote.


Then he would win that bet.

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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/4/2012 2:41:28 AM   
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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/4/2012 2:52:57 AM   
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I seem to remember McCain choosing a *ahem* game changer of a VP selection and posters from California to Maine coming here and declaring victory for their new and exciting McCain/Palin ticket.
Those same posters have spent the last 4 years whining/crying/bitching and a moaning.
I won't make any predictions.....but seems to me that post election we should have the bridges patrolled round the clock,cause a whole lot of folks just might be thinking of jumping.




p.s what are you doing up this early/late(my back is bothering me,that's my excuse/reason)

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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/4/2012 3:41:11 AM   
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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/4/2012 3:53:55 AM   
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This is how ridiculous it has gotten,the right now wants to put forth the supposition that the phrase "Fact check " now equals some sort of left wing conspiracy


"We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers," Romney pollster Neil Newhouse said at a panel organized by ABC News.




Yeah, to me, it reads a bit more like this:

"We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers," Romney pollster Neil Newhouse said at a panel organized by ABC News.


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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/4/2012 5:11:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: subrob1967


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Because it's shit, and he knows it. Now everyone else knows it too.


Not everyone, I bet subrob will vote for him and that's what the party is banking on.


You'd lose that bet. I don't have to vote for Romney, he'll win Indiana without my vote.

I love how you guys keep parroting the talking points... It's just a matter of time before you guys are saying "There are no Republicans in the White House" after Romney wins in November.

Even Carville knows Obama is in deep shit... Keep thirsty, my friends.


You have to learn to read more than the headlines. Your link says:

"According to a new poll conducted by Democracy Corps (the James Carville/Stan Greenberg-founded firm), Mitt Romney is leading by 16 points among independents, 54 percent to Barack Obama’s 38 percent. Twenty-six percent of independents think the country is going in the right direction; 68 percent think it is going on the wrong track. Forty percent of independents approve of Obama, while 56 percent disapprove.

The overall poll isn’t a terrific win for Romney — he’s at 47 percent to Obama’s 49 percent — but if he’s opened up a gap anywhere near this large among independent voters, that’s certainly a hopeful trend for him.




Is Obama going to win without the independents? No.

Is he going to get the youth turn out he had in 08? No.

Is he fucked without those two demographics? Yes.

Well then, must be some Republicans are voting for Obama, 'cuz that's the only way left to explain the numbers.

He has a 20 point lead among women. I hear some of them vote, and that there are a fair number of them.



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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/4/2012 8:11:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Teling a lie in a big game changer speech - a debate or convention spotlight moment - you will get 80 million people to hear it and 20,000 will hear the fact check. The net gain is incredible for lying. Ryan lied. Know it. So did Romney. So will Obama. So will Skippy the dog catcher.

Democrats left a surplus. Republicans crashed the economy and cut taxes for their rich buddies and obstructed every effort to fix things. They will invade Iran the second they are in office. That's compelling - screw what they said on a podium in a $5000 suit.

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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/4/2012 10:57:02 AM   
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Teling a lie in a big game changer speech - a debate or convention spotlight moment - you will get 80 million people to hear it and 20,000 will hear the fact check. The net gain is incredible for lying. Ryan lied. Know it. So did Romney. So will Obama. So will Skippy the dog catcher.

Democrats left a surplus. Republicans crashed the economy and cut taxes for their rich buddies and obstructed every effort to fix things. They will invade Iran the second they are in office. That's compelling - screw what they said on a podium in a $5000 suit.



Maybe you can explain this to me, no one else has...

If the republicans were so chock full o obstruction, how has he managed to add 5 trillion dollars to the deficit? Bush added 6.1 T over 8 years, Obama has added 5T in four... Where was the obstruction again?

Now Obama is losing the youth vote, Romney is gaining with Hispanics, Romney leads with Independents by 15 points, and Obama's had four years to fix the infrastructure, but he gave the money away to the UAW and European banks.

Keep thirsty, keep drinking the Kool-Aid, and please don't cry when Obama loses in November.

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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/4/2012 5:19:33 PM   
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Maybe you can explain this to me, no one else has...

If the republicans were so chock full o obstruction, how has he managed to add 5 trillion dollars to the deficit? Bush added 6.1 T over 8 years, Obama has added 5T in four... Where was the obstruction again?

Now Obama is losing the youth vote, Romney is gaining with Hispanics, Romney leads with Independents by 15 points, and Obama's had four years to fix the infrastructure, but he gave the money away to the UAW and European banks.





Sighs.........because Obama is paying for money spent under Bush and a lack of revenue from the Bush tax cuts and slowdown..

It aint rocket science.

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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/4/2012 7:19:35 PM   
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Sighs.........because Obama is paying for money spent under Bush and a lack of revenue from the Bush tax cuts and slowdown..

It aint rocket science.



It ain't true either... Might wanna check your facts

Answer me this, why did Obama spend the money from the Bush lower tax rates? It's not like he would have been in the know about how much tax revenue the government had... And do explain to me why he extended them if he knew we needed the money.

Sorry me auld Sod, the blame Bush excuse ran out sometime around April 2009.

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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/4/2012 10:09:07 PM   
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"We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers," Romney pollster Neil Newhouse said at a panel organized by ABC News


At last someone in politics speaks it as it is!

This promise is only a smidgin short of: "We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by facts" which is pretty much what is happening now, isn't it?

What does it say about the GOP that their only credible promise is a promise to choose fantasy over facts? Should we label this the FOXification of the GOP? Rush's last hurrah?

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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/4/2012 10:19:38 PM   
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He has a 20 point lead among women. I hear some of them vote, and that there are a fair number of them.




LMAO ..20 point lead among what women? FYI, his edge with women overall has dropped since 2008 also.

"The result is not the only sign of the work ahead for Obama among women. In a separate ABC/Post poll last week, he led Romney among women registered voters in vote preference by just 6 points, 49-43 percent. In 2008, Obama won women by 13 points, 56-43 percent."

And most of the drop is in reaction to the phony "war on women".

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RE: FOX News: Ryan "blatant lies" - 9/5/2012 12:00:20 AM   
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He has a 20 point lead among women. I hear some of them vote, and that there are a fair number of them.




LMAO ..20 point lead among what women? FYI, his edge with women overall has dropped since 2008 also.

"The result is not the only sign of the work ahead for Obama among women. In a separate ABC/Post poll last week, he led Romney among women registered voters in vote preference by just 6 points, 49-43 percent. In 2008, Obama won women by 13 points, 56-43 percent."

And most of the drop is in reaction to the phony "war on women".



But but they have Lilly Ledbetter! NOOOO Don't look behind the curtain, it doesn't matter that Obama pays his female staffers 18% less than the males, as does Nancy Pelosi... You don't really believe that, do you?



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