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Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 2:11:49 AM   
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Watch an old man talk to an empty chair for 10 minutes.

http://youtu.be/hRsfCteQxCE

This Clint Eastwood appearance is embarrassing, and I wonder if his agent is looking out for his interests as is his fiduciary duty...

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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 3:41:46 AM   
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First off, a disclaimer: I did not see Eastwood's speech. I'm going by reviews, which found it a weird piece of performance art, one which went on longer than expected and pushed Romney's speech past 11 PM EST.

That said, Eastwood's had a long, impressive career, and nothing he said or did will affect that. I imagine that this might burnish his cred as the guy who did it HIS way at the RNC.

Which brings up the other question: how will this affect Romney?

A convention is the ultimate show. You have dozens of speakers, and each one is carefully chosen. Condi Rice, for example, was likely a controversial choice because she's an accomplished speaker, and an intelligent, accomplished black woman, the sort of diversity the GOP is working to show. On the other hand, she represents the link to eight years that the GOP is trying to suggest never happened. Santorum was necessary, both as the main challenger to Romney and also as a link to the far right wing. Everything at the convention is supposed to be tightly thought, rethought, and choreographed.

And Romney blew it. This convention was the worst choreographed, most undisciplined since the 1968 Democratic convention. The 1968 convention was uncontrollable because the nomination was not clear going in. In 2012, Romney had 80% of the delegates and a guaranteed first round victory. His inability to control his own party at an event he should have effortlessly controlled, is stunning. Before the convention, he did make up with Santorum and to some degree with Gingrich. But it was obvious that he had made no effective attempts to bring Ron Paul and his supporters into the fold, and Paul actually basically refused to endorse Romney. When Romney violated his own rules to try to squelch participation by the grass roots, the Paul delegation at whom that was aimed protested, and has been sore throughout the convention. The speakers all spoke on Obama's failings and on the general GOP vision, but remained lukewarm in Romney's support. And the also-rans Cain, Huntsman, Bachmann, and Perry were absent. Finally, Clint Eastwood is permitted to do some bizarre piece of performance art. It's clear that Romney does not have real control over his own party.

In contrast, Obama in 2008 worked his ass off to reach out to the Clintons after he wrested control of the party away from them. He has been working to unite the party and even invited Carter and John Kerry to the 2012 DNC convention, a politically risky move.

Rupert Murdoch and Jack Welch both told Romney that he needed to get rid of the amateurs managing his campaign and get some pros. Appears like he ignored them.

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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 4:40:27 AM   
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I don't think that anyone took advantage of Clint Eastwood. I think he knew exactly what he was doing and I think  that it was a very effective speech.

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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 5:35:34 AM   
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I adored Clint.... watched every movie, loved him until he split with his first wife to get off with the dumb bitch sondra locke. Still he had the charm, I didnt care about his politics.
Watching him last night, I almost cried for what was, and how far he has gone..
It was almost as creepy as watching a reagan hologram would have been.
Rich angry old white man, trying to cling to the glory days.
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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 5:35:51 AM   
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I don't think that anyone took advantage of Clint Eastwood. I think he knew exactly what he was doing and I think  that it was a very effective speech.



One word: Wow

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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 5:40:52 AM   
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It is clear that Clint is showing his age but he did just what he wanted to do. He was out there just a bit, but I liked it.  

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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 6:16:51 AM   
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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 6:22:04 AM   
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I kind of thought the bit of alternative theatre was well done despite not sharing Clint's views or politics.

But to have a guy who's made a lot of money over many years as a 'star' at the elitist end of an industry stand up and go on about 23 million unemployment just about took the biscuit.

I didn't see Mitt Romney's speech, but after his unmitigated disaster in Poland perhaps I didn't need to. This is a presidential candidate who went on the invitation of Lech Walesa meeting also Prime Minister Tusk and President Komorowski, but who snubbed Jaroslaw Kaczynski, twin brother of the late Lech Kaczynski, former Prime Minister and leader of the main opposition Law and Justice Party and didn't even mention either of them.

He hailed Walesa as a former President, no doubt oblivious to the fact that Walesa's only term as President, and as a politician, saw the formation of a dozen or so different governments.

He also claimed that Poland, like Britain, had been in NATO for half a century. Poland joined NATO in 1995.

Then there was that altercation with Polish journalists at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Warsaw.

This is a tacky, shoddy presidential campaign being fought by a 'make do' Republican candidate and as for imagining him as POTUS, I don't even want to go there.

I'm inclined to believe everything what DarkSteven posted above. I feel for those Republicans who feel shut out, and I'm hoping that Americans have the good sense not to elect what appears to be an accident waiting to happen.

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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 6:30:12 AM   
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I like to stay away from the politics, with this said I am shock at at clint eastwood act,
someone said Mitt rommey was like hitler he has never given a report an answer!

Hliter did this by sending in people to check out the crowd, if it were not to his liking he would
avoid the whole part of it!

If anyone votes for him just to get President Obama each one of this voters has lost their minds!

He has o ideal what it is to be middle class or poor, his wife has no a clue as to raise children
she has had nanny! That does not count in my book they have never known a day of hungrier or
wondering where they will buy their children school clothes!

Sorry to all who seek to bring in the "great white hope" sad to say it is the race card!!!!!!!

I am sad that it has come to this, I see myself as a person but a Republican see me as something
else guys!

Yes there are black GOP people! They are what they are and it is okay!

but they are screaming for the Head of the country like "coon dogs after a black man who happen to wink at a woman, I will not
go that far as to say what type but it is bad now!


Now everyone hold your angry post, this is my opinion, and no need to come after me! Jusr let me know what you think I am not here
to fight I will read your post but no, hey mons stuff ok!

With that said I like to hear what you think of this kinds of attacks? He is being attack and wow it is getting bad !

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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 6:33:54 AM   
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quote:

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I don't think that anyone took advantage of Clint Eastwood. I think he knew exactly what he was doing and I think  that it was a very effective speech.






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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 6:36:04 AM   
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I feel for those Republicans who feel shut out, and I'm hoping that Americans have the good sense not to elect what appears to be an accident waiting to happen.


Accident waiting to happen or a train wreck in progress. Either way, it's a lose - lose.

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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 6:36:35 AM   
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Your so right it was a mess and I saw Clint Eastwood "act" it was so sad he
was trying to be a young person with a chair and who is really runing Mitt show?

whom ever it is they have done a terrible job and should be fired right away!

This is putting a ' puppet" in the White House to run things I all most fainted to think this
rich man will run our country fair, no way I laugh in their faces to this sick joke!

Whom is the real leader running the GOP race ? it is a clear message to anyone who is
just looking for a "great white hope" Oops I said that in another post

okay night

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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 7:06:24 AM   
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What I find comical is that senile republicans young and old alike seem to have forgotten who started the folly that were both wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. President Obama is/was simply cleaning up the mess he was given. Just as he is doing with the economy. I know republicans would rather forget 2000-2008 didn't happen but it did.

I would hope that the Democrats will expose the lies around cutting Military spending that were propogated as well. Those decisions aren't in Obama's hands. Boehner/McConnell started that particular mess and own the result. They can fix it. Do they have the courage?

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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 7:15:19 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: servantforuse

I don't think that anyone took advantage of Clint Eastwood. I think he knew exactly what he was doing and I think  that it was a very effective speech.


So you at least caught the:

Clint Eastwood = Mr. Dowd
Empty Chair / Mr. Obama = Harvey.

I was starting to think that I was the only one.

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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 7:21:59 AM   
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But Eastwood was no Jimmy Stewart.

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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 7:28:50 AM   
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quote:

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I adored Clint.... watched every movie, loved him until he split with his first wife to get off with the dumb bitch sondra locke. Still he had the charm, I didnt care about his politics.
Watching him last night, I almost cried for what was, and how far he has gone..
It was almost as creepy as watching a reagan hologram would have been.
Rich angry old white man, trying to cling to the glory days.
He fit in perfectly


Ahhhhyup.

I've never been a big Eastwood fan. He wasn't a great actor, but a better director. He also has shit taste in women.

I never thought he was the smartest fellow in Hollywood, but then again, it doesn't take a lot of brains to be a Hollywood bigshot either.

I am no fan of the current RNC, not even a little bit. However, if Eastwood was made a fool I don't blame the right wing nutters. The blame lies solely in the people that know the old fart best. If he isn't mentally able to conduct himself with some semblance of dignity on a national political stage then the people closest to him, should have made sure he wasn't able to make a fool of himself. If he forced the issue and no one could stop him, then the onus is entirely on him.

The reality is that old age often times fucks up the brain. Even movie stars are not immune to senility.


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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 7:31:17 AM   
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And the day after Mitt's big speech . . . everyone's talking about Clint.


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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 7:35:22 AM   
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Yep
If he had directed that speech ..he would have fired the actor...

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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 7:38:41 AM   
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And the day after Mitt's big speech . . . everyone's talking about Clint.



The support for Romney is Underwhelming

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RE: Did the RNC take advantage of a senile old man? - 8/31/2012 7:41:12 AM   
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But Eastwood was no Jimmy Stewart.


I knew Jimmy Stewart. Jimmy Stewart was a friend of mine. You, Clint Eastwood, are no Jimmy Stewart.

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