Brosco
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It continues to amaze me that regardless of whether a topic is specifically about online, or even if just a single post in a thread dares to mention online, it immediately brings out the naysayers to codemn it out of hand, call it a joke, say it isn't real, warn of the dangers, etc etc. It seems they just can't help themselves. The following is just one example by a person that (according to the statistics displayed next to the post by CM) has made just 14 posts in two years!
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ORIGINAL: MasterandCommand
Online is a total JOKE, it is nothing close to the real thing
Don't we all just love opinion stated as fact that therefore must be applicable to everyone?
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...and anybody that defends it as being real in my mind is just fooling themselves because they are doint it and they just want it to be real.
I can accept that some feel this way, and appreciate that you expressed it as opinion. Thank you.
But of course, the opinion is very quickly turned into fact again by:
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There are multiple reasons as to why this is a true statement.
There is only ONE reason it is a true statement - it is true to you because thats what you believe
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... first of all online there is not the actual psychological connection between parties,
In my experience the opposite is true - it is the mind and emotions that make online work - in fact, without the distraction of the physical it can be even more intense than in an offline situation.
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secondly there is not physical presence that enforces the attitude and the threat of obediance.
In both my online and offline experience I would never have wanted a sub that required threats to get obediance. The subs I have been with give obediance because that is thier nature and will to do so.
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Another reason is that it is far easier for the sub to just say forget it and turn off the computer allowing her far greater control belief than otherwise would be felt.
I have never had an online sub turn off the computer on me.
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It is especially amusing to me for those who call themselves online slaves, give me a break!!! The onlyu slave aspect associated to this is your own fantasy and erroneous belief that you are a slave... it is impossible to be a online slave, in fact the term itself is counter productive.
Being a slave or a submissive is part of who one is. Its a state of mind that is part of themselves. That will exist no matter where they are.
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If you want to be serious then get off the damn computer and live it for real.
Ok, the implication is that unless it has been tried off the damn computer then a person wouldn't have any idea about it. Could it also be said that if a person hasn't tried it on the damn computer they wouldn't be able to make a judgement about online?
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.. find a Dom that is not a player or a faker that has actual experience...
ROFLMAO - yeah offline there are only REAL Doms, and online there are only fakers. I'm sure everybody would attest to that - NOT!!!
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every Dom has a different style. Matter of fact, I would say flat out that 90% of all the so called slaves in this lifestyle are really submissives and not slaves by any means... it is just that being a slave is so cool that everybody want to be called a slave.
mmmhhhh and I guess you also have the only definitive definition of the difference between a sub and a slave? oooohhh, just to let you know one of the major differences I see is - which one regards themselves as.
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So if you think online is anywhere like the same as real time, you are totally fooling yourself.
Online is usually done in realtime, especially by those who use voice or cam, however if you meant offline, then yes, you have found the one opinion you state that I agree with - online and offline is different in what may be physically done - but the mindset is essentially the same.
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If you wnat to have the experirence of being a true and real slave then come on over for a spell...
Don't ya just love people who know with all confidence the definion of true and real as applied to all?
BTW M&C, I have had many years in the lifestyle and in recent years have had online relationships, you may be interested in a thread I started:
Going from reallife to an online relationship: http://www.collarchat.com/Going_from_reallife_to_an_online_relationship/m_421410/tm.htm
Brosco
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Any Dom that believes he is in complete control ... has a very clever subbie.
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RE: Online training... - 
..... yeah, and I'll tell you what; if I ever come to the point that the only way I can get one to obey me is by fear, I hope I have the nuggets to send her on her way, and I'll never speak of D/s again.
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I know and understand that most people in BDSM are into real time, but I'm not. 
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