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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/6/2012 7:51:03 PM

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FMRF, Ted Nugent was not a delegate at a national convention..This woman was.

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/6/2012 8:07:31 PM

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Probably for the same reason Mayor Castro and his mother were honored guests.

The dems have no shame, no morals, and no standards.

What, standards like the Republican rep who called the President a liar on the house floor.

Um when one is a bold faced liar, it is quite proper to call him a liar.

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/6/2012 8:10:44 PM

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There is no justification for what the NY delegate said.

However, Mrs. Castro's perspective of the Alamo is her perspective, born out of her lived-culture.

Native Americans say the white man "stole" their lands too; American citizens will say the land was there for the taking.

Who is right?

Spain has more of a claim to Texas than Mexico... But keep making excuses for those "citizens" who refuse to integrate with our country... There was a time when they would be called Traitor.

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/6/2012 8:12:55 PM

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So much for standards Rob, although you have double mine, if you catch my drift.

I am glad you think it is okay to use such language in congress, let alone directed towards the current President. Your previous post about standards was either hypocritical or crocodile tears. Thats plain for all to see.

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/6/2012 8:16:45 PM

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No,there was never such a time.
Responsible folks don't throw around the phrase "traitor",not today and not in any of our yesterdays.
Irresponsible folks,from time to time,sought to gain some sort of advantage by using such demagoguery ...but they were quickly exposed for what they were. McCarthy comes to mind,was that who you were referring to ?

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/6/2012 8:44:00 PM

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What Barbour's BS?
Good point.

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/6/2012 8:55:24 PM

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FMRF, Ted Nugent was not a delegate at a national convention..This woman was.

No, you're right. He was someplace assault weapons were for sale.
I explained the mechanisms under the rules.
NOW PROVE TO ME SHE WAS ALLOWED IN THE HALL TONIGHT.
Your faulty presumption is that it wasn't dealt with but zero proof has been offered she was seated. The only people who can legally revoke her delegate status are the voters of New York. Tell us how you suppose that would work. Right after you prove they seated her tonight.

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/6/2012 9:10:32 PM

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For a damm Red Sox fan you're good

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/6/2012 10:35:33 PM

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one thrid of the defenders at the Alamo were hispanic, Jaun Seguin had more on the way when it fell and another Mexican state was in revolt against Santa Anna's dictatorship.

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/6/2012 10:36:12 PM

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There is no justification for what the NY delegate said.

However, Mrs. Castro's perspective of the Alamo is her perspective, born out of her lived-culture.

Native Americans say the white man "stole" their lands too; American citizens will say the land was there for the taking.

Who is right?

Well, her take's a little..... rough, but she's more or less right. Texas used to be part of Mexico, a ton of Americans came in and settled there (many were illegal immigrants - talk about irony), and then they decided they wanted to secede and form their own country. The Mexican govt of course wasn't too keen on that, and so there was a war, and the Alamo was the most famous battle.

But that doesn't have a lot to do with the real issue - I'm not sure why subrob brought it up. The real issue is death threats, which are incontravertibly wrong and definitely should be investigated.

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/6/2012 10:42:15 PM

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But keep making excuses for those "citizens" who refuse to integrate with our country... There was a time when they would be called Traitor.

What, you mean like all those American immigrants into Mexico in the early 19th century who refused to integrate into that country?

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/6/2012 10:46:03 PM

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Actually the Mexicans promised the Americans land tomove there. The Tejanos as the American mexicans were called supported the extablishment of constirutional government in 1824. For years they peacefully argued for thier rights as Mexican citezens. It was only after Stephn Austin was imprisoned for taking a petition for full statehood to Santa Anna that things turned violent and the Texans decided to break away.

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/7/2012 12:01:56 AM

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So much for standards Rob, although you have double mine, if you catch my drift.

I am glad you think it is okay to use such language in congress, let alone directed towards the current President. Your previous post about standards was either hypocritical or crocodile tears. Thats plain for all to see.

The days of the "distinguished gentlemen" are long past. Backroom deals, filibusters, and blatant lies spoke on the floor have done much more damage to the image of decorum than one Senator calling out the President on his lie.

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/7/2012 12:05:08 AM

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Actually the Mexicans promised the Americans land tomove there. The Tejanos as the American mexicans were called supported the extablishment of constirutional government in 1824. For years they peacefully argued for thier rights as Mexican citezens. It was only after Stephn Austin was imprisoned for taking a petition for full statehood to Santa Anna that things turned violent and the Texans decided to break away.

She's not interested in facts Bama, she only cares about defending the La Raza radical.

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/7/2012 3:07:02 AM

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So much for standards Rob, although you have double mine, if you catch my drift.

I am glad you think it is okay to use such language in congress, let alone directed towards the current President. Your previous post about standards was either hypocritical or crocodile tears. Thats plain for all to see.

The days of the "distinguished gentlemen" are long past. Backroom deals, filibusters, and blatant lies spoke on the floor have done much more damage to the image of decorum than one Senator calling out the President on his lie.

So what.......You claimed the higher moral ground was held by the Republicans and are backpedalling so fast you are in full reverse.

Again.......Why do you hold Democrats to a higher standard than Republicans ? (And please note I didnt, as per my first post)

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/7/2012 5:09:41 AM

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considering the OP came from huff n poo, the trite "standards" of the right is pathetic.
She should be investigated, she should be kicked out, she should be ashamed of herself.
So should a lot of people be, but its obvious that the usual knuckle draggers are blind their own hate

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/7/2012 10:15:05 AM

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So much for standards Rob, although you have double mine, if you catch my drift.

I am glad you think it is okay to use such language in congress, let alone directed towards the current President. Your previous post about standards was either hypocritical or crocodile tears. Thats plain for all to see.

The days of the "distinguished gentlemen" are long past. Backroom deals, filibusters, and blatant lies spoke on the floor have done much more damage to the image of decorum than one Senator calling out the President on his lie.

So what.......You claimed the higher moral ground was held by the Republicans and are backpedalling so fast you are in full reverse.

Again.......Why do you hold Democrats to a higher standard than Republicans ? (And please note I didnt, as per my first post)

I'm not claiming the moral ground for any side. A lie is a lie and just because one is the President, that shouldn't excuse him or her when they get in front of Congress and lie.

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/7/2012 10:29:24 AM

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For a damm Red Sox fan you're good

Listen, if you live North or east of Hartford Ct and you aren't a Red Sox fan, you're just not living. It's like living in this lifestyle and not liking spanking.

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/7/2012 10:33:13 AM

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But keep making excuses for those "citizens" who refuse to integrate with our country... There was a time when they would be called Traitor.

What, you mean like all those American immigrants into Mexico in the early 19th century who refused to integrate into that country?

Stop picking on the Romneys

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RE: can some one tell me...... - 9/7/2012 10:35:37 AM

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You know, from reading the article and seeing this woman, I honestly believe this is just one of those examples of someone using the word "kill" in the casual way that many use the word. You know, the mother who says of the teenage kid out late, "I'm gonna kill them when they get home", kind of thing. It's a way of expressing anger, but not meant to be taken literally. I'm not sure I would waste Secret Service budget on investigating this woman, but if that's what people feel is necessary, then so be it, but it seems like "overkill" to me.