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Lucylastic -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/7/2012 9:02:50 PM)
FR Its such a shame the influx of right leaners suddenly appeared AFTER their disgracefully factless convention... Wheres the passion for your party??? Your candidate??

TheHeretic -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/7/2012 9:17:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Wheres the passion for your party??? Your candidate?? In Eastwood's empty chair, Lucy. [:D]

Owner59 -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/7/2012 10:58:14 PM)
Funny how Clinton payed down the debt that St. Ronnie more than tripled during his terms. Playing make pretend only works for the pretenders.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 5:03:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr Could he ... Could he have possibly ... possibly repeated ... repeated himself ... repeated himself more ... repeated himself more than he ... than he did? Speaking of candidates repeating themselves, Michael, have you seen this side-by-side comparison of Barack Obama, and Barack Obama? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fZgQhnNRSuw Yeah, stump speeches don't change much for candidates unless the situation in the country changes. I'll try to give an example where people won't hop up and down on my dick: NO politician could have given the same stump speech in 2004 as they did in 2000 due to the New York/Washington attacks of 2001. They changed the "tone" of the country. Unfortunately for Barack, this country hasn't changed much since 2008, really and he's running against himself. Another thing that I have noticed in almost every president that I can remember: they do get very grey, very quickly. Peace and comfort, Michael

Owner59 -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 5:41:30 AM)
Going from losing 750 thousand a month to adding jobs was a nice change. So were every social policy change that made cons fall into crybaby mode. Starting with the Lilly Ledbetter act to killing DADT to Obamnie-care to the Dream act.

FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 6:48:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Funny how Clinton payed down the debt that St. Ronnie more than tripled during his terms. Playing make pretend only works for the pretenders. Pssssst let him go on unconstrained. The really delusional 'humor' posts are actually funny.

Lucylastic -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 7:01:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Wheres the passion for your party??? Your candidate?? In Eastwood's empty chair, Lucy. [:D] LOL yeah that says SOOO much RIch[sm=rofl.gif][sm=rofl.gif][:D][:D][:D][sm=rofl.gif]

DaddySatyr -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 7:10:09 AM)
Rich, I don't think you've weighed in on the teleprompter idea I had. Do you think it was stuck and Biden was "buying time" or is this guy just THAT repetative, when he's trying to sound passionate? Peace and comfort, Michael

TheHeretic -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 7:39:53 AM)
I didn't watch Biden, Michael, and I'm not going to inflict that on myself, so I can't speak from first hand knowledge, but my guess would be Biden was giving the speech for those with a 5th grade comprehension level. It's an important Dem constituency. After all, when Joe is working off script, he tends to come up with something the administration has to cover for.

Owner59 -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 7:43:22 AM)
"I can't speak from first hand knowledge" Rock on, brother....

DaddySatyr -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 7:45:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic I didn't watch Biden, Michael, and I'm not going to inflict that on myself, so I can't speak from first hand knowledge, but my guess would be Biden was giving the speech for those with a 5th grade comprehension level. It's an important Dem constituency. After all, when Joe is working off script, he tends to come up with something the administration has to cover for. I would agree, if he had only been repeating "talking points" and such but it seemed to me like he was almost doing a full word version of stuttering. If you ever want incentive to shove a sharp instrument in your ear and puncture your eardrums, you should give his speech a listen LOL Peace and comfort, Michael

Owner59 -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 8:00:35 AM)
Folks will accept competence and success from someone who isn`t well spoken over your dueling gaffers.... any day. http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/418458/august-29-2012/ayn-rand---paul-ryan Watch Paul suck up to Rand and then throw her under the bus when folks found about Paul`s idolizing of Ayn Rand.

TheHeretic -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 8:05:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Folks will accept competence and success from someone who isn`t well spoken Preach on, "bro."

TheHeretic -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 8:27:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr If you ever want incentive to shove a sharp instrument in your ear and puncture your eardrums, you should give his speech a listen LOL Thanks, but I'd rather run a jackhammer with a hangover, Michael. The transcript, as delivered, tells the tale just fine. No, I think that was a loose nut in front of the screen, rather than a problem with the teleprompter. [:D]

FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 8:43:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr Rich, I don't think you've weighed in on the teleprompter idea I had. Do you think it was stuck and Biden was "buying time" or is this guy just THAT repetative, when he's trying to sound passionate? Peace and comfort, Michael OR ... Repetition is sometimes used as a tool. In fact your beloved Ronald Reagan is one of the most notorious users of the technique, or should I say Ken Khachigian, or Dolan, along with a number of other great orators in recent memory: For this analysis, which includes an essay, you will write about King's “I Have a Dream" speech and Kennedy's Inaugural Address. You will also write original sentences using various stylistic devices. For the essay, you will analyze speeches from Election 2004. In Martin Luther King’s “I Have a Dream" speech, identify three other examples, besides “I Have a Dream,” of King’s use of repetitive language. In complete sentences describe which words are repeated and the number of times that they are repeated. So, for one of the three examples, you will write something like: King says ‘I have a dream’ nine times in this speech. List, in complete sentences, one example from Kennedy's Inaugural Address of each of the following types of stylistic devices and explain why it is an example of that type: a. Repetitive structure b. Repetitive language c. Antithesis d. Imagery and/or metaphor For example, you would write something like: Kennedy uses repetitive structure when he says, “… symbolizing an end as well as a beginning – signifying renewal, as well as change.” (You must find another example.) Write an original sentence using any one of the five stylistic devices discussed in the Online Reading (repetitive structure, repetitive language, antithesis, imagery and/or metaphor) and identify which stylistic device it is. In about a 250 word essay, evaluate any two of the Election 2004 CD ROM speeches. Which one is better and why? Are either of the speeches more or less effective due to the speaker’s use of any of the stylistic devices you have learned about in this activity? Go again to http://www.americanrhetoric.com/. Identify and define two Figures in Sound that have not been defined in this activity. You may use those that were identified but not defined in #7 of Step 2 above, or any others that interest you. Write an original sentence for each of the two Figures of Sound that you have defined.

TheHeretic -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 8:52:12 AM)
You might want to check the text as delivered, before trying that approach, F.

FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 9:02:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic You might want to check the text as delivered, before trying that approach, F. I am no longer addressing the speech. I am addressing his ongoing dialogue concerning repetition in speeches. What do you say we skip the preliminaries and you get right to the part where I don't understand you? [:D]

TheHeretic -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 9:42:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FMRFGOPGAL I am no longer addressing the speech. I am addressing his ongoing dialogue concerning repetition in speeches. What do you say we skip the preliminaries and you get right to the part where I don't understand you? [:D] You haven't made any upside-down assumptions about my opinions so far, F. [;)] Used properly, repetition is a valuable tool of the orator. Since you are now excluding the speech in question, can we take that as an admission Biden wasn't using it in a productive way?

mnottertail -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 9:55:55 AM)
It appears to be productive enough, it is garnering far more attention than anything Willard said at his princess ball.

FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: Biden's Speech (9/8/2012 10:12:41 AM)
[:D] quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic You haven't made any upside-down assumptions about my opinions so far, F. [;)] Used properly, repetition is a valuable tool of the orator. Since you are now excluding the speech in question, can we take that as an admission Biden wasn't using it in a productive way? Try and think of it as an ACKNOWLEDGEMENT on my part that you don't have the deep love and respect for Biden that you do for Presidents Clinton and Obama

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