candleTC -> RE: Defending "pay for play" online training (6/12/2006 9:14:57 PM)
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Greetings again, enigma.... Just a few thoughts .... my opinions of course.... quote:
Honestly paying for play to me is the same as phone sex... when you pay to talk to someone and so on mmmmm.. never paid for "phone sex" .. and not really seeing the correlation.... i guess, if you wanted to make the parallel, yeah, there are people that call sex lines all day long, just to get thier rocks off, and yes, there are people that will spend the same money to get some faceless female to tell them how much of a sissy boy they are. But, rarely is there actual "sex" involved. So, it's not really like phone sex at all, now is it?? quote:
though I do feel if you are paying for this real time it is some what the simaler at least to me as prostatution SIMILAR to PROSTITUTION, how??? Have you know any Dom/Dommes, professional or otherwise?? Have you even read any of the threads that talk about the D/s dynamic is actually rather, sexless?? Even more so on the professional level. Having been in the Professional side of this lifestyle in the past ( for quite a few years ) i , don't think i ever met ONE Male or Female Professional that *ever* had sex with said submissive. You just don't do it. The people that come to the Professionals with money in hand, are strictly nothing more than a client, a number per se. NOT someone in a collar. ( on a side note, of this topic.... it is VERY possible to actually have " vanilla sex " and *still* be very much in a D/s M/s relationship ) quote:
real Domanents dont need or want to be payed to do what they do. Most of the "real" DOMINANTS i know, would be more than happy to be PAID for services rendered. I have known many, that have actually gone and "trained" ( in person, even.. *gasp* ) and were not offered a dime. Learning from thier mistakes, actually discussed payment the next time. You fail to see that a Dom or Master or Mistress or whatever domly type unit you choose to enter here, sees that thier time and knowledge and skills are very valuable. Besides, who wouldn't want to get paid for a "job" they love?? quote:
it is really up to the person if they feel they can get what they need out of paying someone to be with them online then good for them it isnt for everyone it may not even be for most of us... I find it counterproductive and I dont think I would feel terably good anout myself or my training if i had to pay for it. Ya know, sometimes i don't think that the fulfillment of the need to be with someone, is satisfied by paying someone. I think the need to be discreet is the need that is being fulfilled by paying someone. When one offers money for services rendered, there tends to be the feeling of confidentiality. Nine times out of ten, a professional Domme is not going to go running to her other Domme girlfriends and say " oh my god!! you will NEVER believe who showed up at My dungeon today!! YES!! It was Dr. Jones!! Can you believe that?? " No, that wouldn't happen. Why? Because Dr. Jones is paying Mistress so and so, 500 bucks a session!! Dr. Jones at this point, knows that Mistress values his money far more than she values him. Money is the key to silence, hence fulfilling the need. quote:
I find it counterproductive and I dont think I would feel terably good anout myself or my training if i had to pay for it. You are a college student, right? Are you *not* paying for training, now?? People pay for training in all areas of life, every single day. How does this type of "training" differ from your type of training?? quote:
I dont think there is a need to defend it (I feel if you think you need to defend what your doing you probubly shouldnt be doing it) But gain thats just my unwanted opinion I am not sure that anyone was "defending" it. There is a difference between "educating the general public" and "defending" ones actions. It seems that maybe more education needs to be done on this topic, because many like yourself fall into the " shoot off at the mouth, when in all actuality i don't know a damn thing about it" trap. Enigma, i emailed you today, offering sound advice and lending a helping hand.... i mentioned that maybe you should step away from this for a while.. i meant it. Take time to educate yourself in the area that you are currently going to school for, educate yourself in ALL areas of the lifestyle, take a break and come back. I know that i will be totally chewed out for this post, and i am prepared to take it.... ( weeee ) I would like to think that maybe there are a few brave souls that would agree with me... Here's hoping, and well wishes..... Beth ~edited to only add, that the words in caps, are the words i just couldn't stand to see misspelled any longer... really wishes i could make her re-write every misspelled word 10 times * sigh * ~
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