Termyn8or
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Feminization, in a forum like this usually means something else. When you are talking about broad sweeping changes in the whole of society you have a different can of worms. The old societal norms were created by societal needs. Of course religion came and screwed it all up.
I have a theory that people of old were much smarter than today's people. They had to be innovative to survive. We do not.
Now let's go way back, like in the Troglodite song. Now you got people who of course hunt, maybe fish (with rocks maybe) but they survive. Later, after trial and error finding out which plants feed them and which kill them, they decide to plant fields.
Now Men and Women naturally come together and this is how it was. Eventually that Woman gets pregnant. There is no Enfamil, no Similac, nor baby bottle in which to put it. Breast fed. Now imagine a Woman breast feeding as she tills the field. What should the Man be doing ? That doesn't work, so the Man went out, reaped and sowed while the Woman fed the child. The breasts are attached to the Woman so there is not much choice.
So over the generations the Man learns about reaping and sowing, that you need to plant before you can harvest. The Woman in the meantime learns to know when children need nourishment, NOW. Thus the Men learned to think to the future, prepare for future needs while the Woman took care of the more immediate needs. Over the millenia the two ideologies became symbiotic, and resulted in the institution of marriage, and this was well before religion came.
Because of their respective roles in life, Men became stronger physically than Women, but on the flipside, Women started to think about attracting the right Man, for survival, for survival of the offspring. It has, of course, developed since then.
So if you think of affecting immediate needs, that is, in a way effeminate. If you think long term, that is masculine thinking. This is not simply an opinion. Going to another culture the Yin/Yang concept is nearly identical. Perhaps the Moslems take it too far, indeed, but it is based on human nature.
So now, to agree with you (446%) the thing now is to fix it now, not to fix it right. They treat symptoms, not the disease. They keep patching roads that should be torn out. People will put 125 cans of "fix-a-flat" in their tire instead of having it fixed or replaced at a much lower cost.
It is for real Men of the society to say "Stop doing this, we are going to fix it right. But now the lines are blurred. The distinction is disappearing as more and more males take the easy way out, and at the same time more and more females say "No, let's fix it right".
Don't get me wrong, Women can think ahead and do, but because of conditions a long time ago, Men are more suited for it, or at least used to be.
"Or at least used to be" is the key phrase here. Yes, we do not have more people, Men or Women thinking of the long term. Yes we do have agencies putting bandaids so to speak on very deep problems. Over the millenia Women have been conditioned to accept circumstances. I'll bet my bottom dollar that a Woman coined the phrase "You can't fight city hall". In the olden days the Man would go out with his buddies and come back "City hall is gone". You see Men see that we can't take shit from anyone. Women see the shit and want to return it and get revenge, we Men see it as an oppotunity to go kill a bunch of people, and burn their precious city hall to the ground. This is indeed the only way to keep them down. We see that, Women do not.
I see that, problem is most males do not.
So yes, society is indeed feminized, and once you really know what it means you see it so much more clearly. This is not to put Women down, not at all. After all somebody does have to think of those day to day needs. NEEDS. Even without children the Man would need food right ? Thing is, when it comes to directing the affairs of a household, the Woman's point of view needs to be balanced, or reconciled with the Man's point of view. I bet when times were tough they communicated really well.
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