crazyml
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This has been a really fascinating thread.
Firstly I'd agree with the posters that reckon the profile could very well be fake. As Kana pointed out, an experienced sadist would figure out whether the person is for real fairly promptly. I certainly don't doubt that he'd be able to make the call after three emails.
Assuming this one is for real though...
I have to admit first that my immediate gut reaction when I encounter people that are into this degree of extreme violence is "Fuck me! This person needs help, and lots of it"
But.. but... Over the years I've encountered people in r/l and on boards like these that are really into extreme violence, both as recipients and givers and I've had to confront the fact that you really can be into extreme violence and be perfectly "sane" and healthy. Sure, it's not my cup of hippo, and sure some of the shit these kinksters get up to would be impossible for me to watch but yeah I'm 100% with the posters who believe that people should have the freedom to explore whatever they want with their bodies.
But there's another but...
I struggle with the "line". At what point is a lifestyle so dangerous, so likely to cause enduring harm to the person him/herself and or to their family or society at large, that it becomes simply wrong?
Many of us here tend very strongly towards a libertarian stance, and I'd say I was a lot further towards the libertarian point of view than the general population. But we live in a society that does, generally, believe that there are cases where it can and should interfere.
Seatbelt laws and the banning of narcotics are two examples. Fuck... Kinder Eggs (yummy chocolate eggs that contain a teensy plastic child's toy) are banned in the USA because they represent a choking hazard for infants.
These laws aren't made for the people who really understand the consequences and make an informed choice, they're made for the (and let's face it it's a pretty big fucking proportion of the population) who don't stop and think about the consequences.
So how do I tell whether this is something that is RACK (or SSC ... since I don't believe there is really a meaningful difference between the two acronyms) or abuse?
If I were out in public and I saw some dude beating on his girlfriend then I would have to intervene. If I were in a dungeon and saw the same, I would assume that it was RACK (I would move on, because I can't watch something like that).
In the context of boards like these, if someone like LadyP, Kana, Littlewonder or LadyHib talks about extreme violence I have a sense of where they're coming from (I know it's essentially limited to what I've read of them here but I do have a sense). In the context of Kana and Littlewonder - fuck I'd defend their right to consent to do all sorts of things, even the ones that make me shudder, but that's because I've seem ample evidence of the quality of their relationship.
When a complete stranger rocks up, I just can't make the same assumption - So I err on the safe side... Because for me, making an ass of myself by asking someone who is perfectly sane and sorted if they need help is far less likely to result in harm than simply assuming that they're all tickety boo.
Like Kalikashama, I do worry when people advertise an interest in extreme violence right up front, because let's face it there really are some very fucked up people (on both sides of S/M) on places like this.
So... a question for Kana, LadyP, Hibbie, and Littlewonder (from your perspective, which is from the other side)..
If you meet someone who advertises an interest in extreme violence, do you just assume they're sorted, or do you want to find out for yourself what motivates the desire?
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