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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/28/2012 8:49:51 AM

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Things seem to be moving decisively in Obama's favour. Is this likely to effect the outcomes of the Congress elections?

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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/28/2012 9:07:59 AM

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Tizz said "all politics are local." So, depends first on what's been going on on the ground.

Sometimes the Presidential winner has a big tail to bring the local elections along. Main example given is FDR in 1932. But of course, economy was in depression. Also Reagen in 1980. Big landslide. Jimmie Carter malaise and also recession. Additionally, in hindsight those were elections of mega change in governance philosophy.

The unspoken issue in this election imo is whether the nation is ready for change from deficit economics to austerity economics.

Of course it could be so narrow a victory for that question to remain unresolved this time around.

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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/28/2012 9:13:46 AM

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Whether or not it might be ready to try austerity economics, is not a question for whats on the stove, there ain't nobody in that government or trodding the boards that is realistically fiscally conservative and about to clean house as well as raise taxes.

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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/28/2012 9:23:36 AM

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I can't say how decisively across the country things are moving. Just, here, things brightened once we had the autobailout in place. Without that this state would have been completely fucked. Cities like toledo, lorain, youngstown, akron, findlay, warren and others were already teetering on the edge....if the Auto Industry would have left......then the cities would have collapsed.

And it simply wasn't just the Auto Companies themselves it was all the other companies that supply them. Oh sure, in bankruptcy it could have worked out and the new owners would have kept the plants here. But, you see, this area has been through all that before. Most of the time the plants close and move to a lower wage area. The jobs are lost. I think it is intuitive in the people of Ohio now. So, no, they will take the person that saved it for them.

There was an early ad here of a white man that had lost his job at Lordstown. Normally would bet my ass he'd vote republican. But, he knows who got him his job back. He is voting Obama.

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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/28/2012 10:15:55 AM

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Mania is not necessarily a good thing. It is difficult for Obama handlers to run a good propaganda campaign twice. Four years is too short, memories still fresh. Obama as a "lesser of to evils" they try currently does not create enough excitement for coming out to vote. They need to find some big lie that works on subconscious fear, focus on it, and then push really hard. I guess something is in works right now, watch for it coming.

For some people, the extent of their understanding of what goes on on college campuses is limited to "who you should pepper spray at free speech gatherings".
Regardless of that fact, I can offer my observations, then (08) and now. There is no noticeable difference of activities, with the possible exception that the Romney rallies have drawn far less than the McCain rallies in 08 or even a Ron Paul rally last spring.
The OP is at best, misleading. There is plenty of activity all over US Campuses and I would presume there are Geo-cultural variations across the nation as to the exact nature.

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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/28/2012 10:23:21 AM

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Only if they buy into the fear and loathing which replaced hope and change, DNAV. I'm not seeing that, in the particular windows I have, while I was seeing it everywhere, four years ago.

Oh, Romney's platform isn't THAT Scary... People just don't want him because he's all over the map at any given moment, and totally in the tank for the rich.
Very honest of you to admit Romney has such serious problems in his campaign though.
Bravo "H"

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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/28/2012 10:29:33 AM

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Voter registration in the Buckeye State is down by 490,000 people from four years ago. Of that reduction, 44 percent is in Cleveland and surrounding Cuyahoga County, where Democrats outnumber Republicans more than two to one.
"I think what we're seeing is a lot of spin and hype on the part of the Obama campaign to try to make it appear that they're going to cruise to victory in Ohio," Cuyahoga County Republican Chairman Rob Frost said. "It's not just Cuyahoga County. Nearly 350,000 of those voters are the decrease in the rolls in the three largest counties, Cuyahoga, Hamilton and Franklin."

Frost points out that those three counties all contain urban centers, where the largest Democrat vote traditionally has been.
Ohio is not alone. An August study by the left-leaning think tank Third Way showed that the Democratic voter registration decline in eight key swing states outnumbered the Republican decline by a 10-to-one ratio. In Florida, Democratic registration is down 4.9 percent, in Iowa down 9.5 percent. And in New Hampshire, it's down down 19.7 percent.

Yeah, Obama's up by 10 in Ohio

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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/28/2012 10:32:17 AM

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I am sorry it isn't working out as you had hoped. Better luck next time

Its hard to believe these guys prefer the latest GWB incantation. Where were they from 2002-2008?

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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/28/2012 11:48:06 AM

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Voter registration in the Buckeye State is down by 490,000 people from four years ago. Of that reduction, 44 percent is in Cleveland and surrounding Cuyahoga County, where Democrats outnumber Republicans more than two to one.
"I think what we're seeing is a lot of spin and hype on the part of the Obama campaign to try to make it appear that they're going to cruise to victory in Ohio," Cuyahoga County Republican Chairman Rob Frost said. "It's not just Cuyahoga County. Nearly 350,000 of those voters are the decrease in the rolls in the three largest counties, Cuyahoga, Hamilton and Franklin."

Frost points out that those three counties all contain urban centers, where the largest Democrat vote traditionally has been.
Ohio is not alone. An August study by the left-leaning think tank Third Way showed that the Democratic voter registration decline in eight key swing states outnumbered the Republican decline by a 10-to-one ratio. In Florida, Democratic registration is down 4.9 percent, in Iowa down 9.5 percent. And in New Hampshire, it's down down 19.7 percent.

Yeah, Obama's up by 10 in Ohio

So who would get the pepper gas at say UNH?

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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/28/2012 7:13:39 PM

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Rob, the goal is to try to get voters out who don't really any have sort of core principles, but want to be on the winning team's side. It's, "fake it, 'til you make it."

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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/28/2012 7:55:58 PM

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Rob, the goal is to try to get voters out who don't really any have sort of core principles, but want to be on the winning team's side. It's, "fake it, 'til you make it."

Does a gem like this take a lot of preparation, H?
Or is there somewhere you can just pluck them off a talking points cluster?

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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/29/2012 7:09:17 AM

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LOL. I gotta laugh at this core principles bullshit. What are the core principles of the Republican party? Legislative ineptitude, borrow and spend.....beyond that I do not see them exercising any other core principles in the real world. Rhetoric is just that, bullshit.

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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/29/2012 8:02:40 AM

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Does what I said trouble you, Ron, that you find a need to try and raise a whole new question? Start another thread, and I'll be happy to pop in. You may not like the answer I'll provide though, because I can guarantee it won't fit a template you will find comfortable.

Obama needs dumbasses. He needs shallow, stupid, entitled little shits to get excited about voting for him. He needs the kind of people who go out and buy a jersey from a team they've never supported, so they can wear it to the Superbowl party. He had them in '08, when he was selling an exciting blank canvas, and undefined hope and change. He was fresh, and historic, and they could feel good about themselves by voting for him. He had a bandwagon.

Today, those people pull into a parking lot, and hope there is enough change between the seats to buy what they need. There is no need for them to support Romney. They can simply drop back into the stuporous political apathy which is their natural state.

The electorate that shows up in November is not going to be the same as what we had last time around, and President Obama is just as good at motivating the Republican base in '12, as Candidate Obama was with the Democrats in '08.

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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/29/2012 8:07:36 AM

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Nah, its not worth a thread, it is not off topic from what the current topic is, and it would simply be more rhetorical but unfounded asswipe. And what you say does not trouble me, nor does it surprise me, nor does it cause me pause.

Everybody needs ignorant motherfuckers to vote for them or Willard wouldn't garner a single vote.

But not all the ignorant motherfuckers are on college campuses, and if there is no 'mania' on them, and it cannot be said there was 'mania' in 2008 on them accurately, then there is no 'mania' for Willard either.

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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/29/2012 9:16:47 AM

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Oh, Romney's platform isn't THAT Scary... People just don't want him because he's all over the map at any given moment, and totally in the tank for the rich.
Very honest of you to admit Romney has such serious problems in his campaign though.
Bravo "H"

My sentiments exactly, GAL. The only time he was caught not speaking publicly was in Florida, when he wrote off half the nation because they were democrats...and topped it off with a huge insult to them. (As if democrats don't work and pay taxes...AND as if republicans aren't laid off, unemployed and looking for help (o as they say, handouts)

). That may have been the only time he wasn't parroting all his republican counsel. And that alone was a disaster that turned most of the Independents I know away from him.

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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/29/2012 4:40:49 PM

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Nah, its not worth a thread, it is not off topic from what the current topic is, and it would simply be more rhetorical but unfounded asswipe. And what you say does not trouble me, nor does it surprise me, nor does it cause me pause.

Everybody needs ignorant motherfuckers to vote for them or Willard wouldn't garner a single vote.

But not all the ignorant motherfuckers are on college campuses, and if there is no 'mania' on them, and it cannot be said there was 'mania' in 2008 on them accurately, then there is no 'mania' for Willard either.

Oh Ron, that's not true. A few days after the 47% remarks there was a "rally" held by "Young Republicans for Romney" out ob the quad below my office window, there must have been nearly 50 people including the organizers. Plenty of "mania" was had by everyone.
Though you'd think at a rich-boy school like this there would be more ... ummm ... "mania", wouldn't you?

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RE: Election 'mania' missing on college campuses - 9/30/2012 5:18:55 AM

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LOL. I gotta laugh at this core principles bullshit. What are the core principles of the Republican party? Legislative ineptitude, borrow and spend.....beyond that I do not see them exercising any other core principles in the real world. Rhetoric is just that, bullshit.

I agree with you that a vote for Mitt Romney is a vote for Mitt Romney and not the Republican party. Its track record has been poor. It's a hard pill to swallow having to vote for a Republican.

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