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RE: When is a Slave broken? - 6/15/2006 9:14:11 PM

MsChatelaine

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As others here have eluded to (I noticed a couple of posters who I can tell are very familiar with this exercise), to do this you are playing with fire. Playing with anyone's mind at such a deep level would require expertise to not leave the subject in a state of "...no longer psychologically able to consider their own welfare." Obviously, that should NOT be the goal. I suspect that the slaves some here have spoken of who have no "being" left in them, have been "broken" in a bad way by someone who had no idea what they were doing. If you strip away someone's fears, those voids must be replaced with something, preferably trust and conviction that will reveal the slave's true strength.

Mind you, I practice a lifestyle based in learning and growth, not degradation and humility, so there certainly may be other perspectives on this. My perspective is that "breaking" should, like equestrian work, never destroy the subject's own spirit/mind, but can be useful in removing inhibitions that the slave may be struggling with and unable to release on their own. The principle isn't much different than military boot camp or pyschological treatment. We all *want* to perform well at what we do, but sometimes life needs a little force to make that happen. If done carefully, everyone should be happy with the resulting "ride".

While I have considerable knowledge and experience in overcoming emotional/social issues using clinical and spiritual methods, I certainly will not be responsible for promoting this practice in the BDSM realm. My purpose in posting to this thread is in hope to prevent someone submitting to some "??dominant's??" potentially destructive and debilitating whim in the interest of being a pleasing and desirable submissive.

BTW, even lost in headspace (sub or dom), I've seen few instances where someone would not have responded to an scream of "FIRE" by heading for the nearest exit. And about those subs left incapable of making a decision on their own.... are you sure they ever could? {snicker}

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msChatelaine: If you're not careful, I would suspect you could end up with a dependent vegetable form.

Please elaborate. We all depend on each other for different things. What pitfalls are you referring to?

This thread is getting interesting, again...

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RE: When is a Slave broken? - 6/18/2006 8:58:44 AM

targon

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Princess Chatelaine,

I agree, building up a sub or revealing a sub's true strengths should be a dom's goal. And we rarely use the word "broken" in this approach.

Some combinations of doms and subs will be disasterous.

So, how can a sub know if their limits are being tested or if they should run?

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RE: When is a Slave broken? - 6/19/2006 7:26:58 AM

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i think there are two points of view one being the sadistic asshole that would abduct someone and torture them so they have no will no hope nothing and will just go through the motions of what they are told to do.then they would be sold.

the other which i believe is when someone such as yourself wants to be a slave and has a master that will connect with her body mind and soul so she breaks the bonds that keep her clinging to her vanilla life and lets go of all her inhibitions wanting to give herself totally to her master 24/7.not through pain and torture but by her total trust in him or her of knowing her boundaries and knowing they will not be crossed.you will still have your normal life going to work etc. but thinking of what awaits her when she gets home her cravings and needs that only her master can fulfill.
i might not have worded it right but on that idea

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