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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/7/2012 1:34:58 PM   
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OP, you make it sound like a person never makes general introductions. That's nonsense. When we meet folks, I have no issues saying that MP is My husband and clip is My sub. I don't expect them to have mind reading capabilities.

Is it easy to see that I'm the Head of Household? Yes. Spend an evening with us and it comes across loud and clear. Someone who doesn't have that opportunity? Yes, I'll probably have to mention it.

You don't have that advantage on a message board. Let's be a little more realistic, shall we?


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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/7/2012 2:08:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

I'm still waiting to hear if the OP would be willing to serve as an office assistant without any form of sex involved.


Same here. I offered a firsthand example of exactly what he was asking about, and he hasn't responded to my post. He hasn't asked for more details on how it worked or anything. Yet, he's revisited this thread several times to argue with the ladies.


OP, when you ask for help/advice on a specific topic, and someone provides that help, you should at least acknowledge that fact. I may have been able to help you bring your fantasy to fruition.

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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/7/2012 2:19:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		I didn't think I was asked but I did answer that I would consider it for the right situation and also that I am going to tell her/the person that MistressDarkArt suggested it.

But, I am not feeding the trolls today.

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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/7/2012 2:23:16 PM   
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Trolls? Where?

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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/7/2012 2:28:03 PM   
Rochsub2009


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ORIGINAL: focalss

But, I am not feeding the trolls today.



Hmmmm, I didn't see any trollish posts in this thread. But okay.

Good luck in your search for an administrative service position.

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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/7/2012 3:39:12 PM   
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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/7/2012 8:25:13 PM   
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MistressDarkArt suggested it.




Suggested what? I simply asked if you'd serve as an office assistant without sex and you answered it depended if it was the 'right' situation. So if some totally hot woman executive said, "I would like you to work in the office for me but don't expect to have sex," would you?

If some average-looking woman executive said the same thing, would you?

If some hideous-looking woman executive said the same thing, would you?

Would any of those women be 'the right situation'? Or would the only 'right' situation be the one in your OP where you 'work' on your knees under the desk.

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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/7/2012 8:33:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Alecta

I still can't figure out what it is I said. anyone?


The OP pulled a random line from my profile not germane to his topic; a non-sequitur. As for what he addressed to you...no clue.

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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/7/2012 10:13:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Suggested what? I simply asked if you'd serve as an office assistant without sex and you answered it depended if it was the 'right' situation."

There are a few factors that would go into my decision such as:
The main ones, assuming it was not for sex or for money, would be whether I felt the woman was worthy of the service.
If she was in a relationship with another man then I wouldn't.
For the situation to work it would also have to be clear that it was a domme sub situation, sort of like being lent out.
Another factor would be the length of time involved and the actual work and if I felt I could do it in a reasonable amount of time and in the time the dominant needed it.

So if some totally hot woman executive said, "I would like you to work in the office for me but don't expect to have sex," would you?
If some average-looking woman executive said the same thing, would you?
If some hideous-looking woman executive said the same thing, would you?

So for hot/average/hideous, it would depend more on my factors than attractiveness.  I have offered to serve non sexually for certain periods of time as a houseboy but wasn't taken up on it, and it would have been for a limited period of time, maybe 4 - 8 days, 1 day a week each week but it didn't materialize either for lack of attraction or distance.  If it was over the internet (long distance) like a project that I might be interested in doing for the woman then the attraction wouldn't even be a factor because we wouldn't be seeing each other.

I don't think my factors are any different than others who say they would only be a submissive to the right person, not anyone.

With regard to the under the desk situation, its something you just don't hear about with female executives compared to what you hear about with male executives.  The other part of the question was that instead of services that women feel men don't do that well, it would be about services that I or other men do know how to do but just don't seem to be in demand for in the Ds relationship.  Also there are a lot more women executives or business owners these days than years ago so in some ways it should be easier to find.

Things that I have done on a volunteer basis for charities I don't consider the same (D/s) while the same principles apply that I am not getting any sex or money out of the service.

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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/8/2012 5:34:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: focalss

Why do people make assumptions about the question that the sub isn't interested in doing real work which is what I asked.


Because your initial OP reads like a lot of the male fantasies that come through this board of how they think they are offering service, but in reality it's a drain on the women. It really ends up to be a service that the Domme provides.

Your idea is about yourself, and requires her taking a lot of time bossing you around and directing you- this is what is sexually exciting to you. Your idea is not about making her life easier and getting work done, it's centered on yourself instead. The woman could get a lot more done on her own without having to worry about the secret agenda here of titillating you sexually.

BINGO, lizi. Thank you! Yes, often when subs present themselves to Dommes with offers to perform "service" for her they start by listing all the sexual things they want to do. *yawn* I have a secretary. HE'S A SECRETARY! He works his tail off researching, resource-hunting, helping Me screen potential subs, etc., sometimes late into the early morning when he can barely keep his eyes open to type.*gives him affectionate bear hug* I own a small farm, 12 gardens, and My house is in need of renovating; there certainly is no shortage of areas a TRULY service-minded sub can help out around here. My subs WORK. I'm married and don't have time to entertain perverts looking to live out their porn fantasies. I think My profile is pretty clear on that topic. Some may wonder how I attract ANY subs with My profile. Subs certainly have the CHOICE whether to contact Me or look elsewhere, and dispite My stringent requirements I have no shortage of hopefuls eagerly contacting Me willing to follow My rules (surprising yes, even to Me). Sadly I've had to turn away some lovely ones, due to distance, etc. The Collar I offer isn't cheap "velcro"...it's heavy steel chain and represents My subs' Commitment and Strength of Character, a beautiful coordination of D/s effort toward self-betterment. If you ever want to wear it you'd damn well better be able to prove you are worth My time, friendship, and emotional investment. Work to Earn it, cut the perv behavior toward Me, or get CULLED. My subs have something to be PROUD of; there are no half-hearted, self-serving wimps in My group. No Domme should have to put up with subs who expect to be "serviced". So subbies, if you advertise yourself as "eager to serve", then actually make yourself USEFUL TO HER for crying out loud. [end rant]

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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/8/2012 5:44:05 AM   
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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/8/2012 8:49:05 AM   
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With regard to the under the desk situation, its something you just don't hear about with female executives compared to what you hear about with male executives. 



I believe that the reason you hear about men seeking women to perform "under the desk" service (e.g. Bill Clinton), but you don't hear about female executives seeking the same thing, is because men are much more focused on the act, while women are more focused on the relationship.

In just about any city in America you can find men seeking prostitutes. They'll gladly pay for a blowjob, or for intercourse. They typically don't need to know much about the woman. Does she meet their attractiveness requirement, and is she willing to suck/fuck for the price that they're willing to pay? That's about all they need to know about her. But women are more complex. The relationship tends to be more important than the activity. That's why you don't see an army of male prostitutes combing the streets looking for "Janes". "Johns" are easy to find. "Janes" aren't. Women typically aren't looking to have sex with a random man.

How does this relate to your scenario? Well, most women aren't interested in having some random guy sitting under her desk licking her pussy. In fact, most of them probably find the idea to be totally disgusting. Most men, on the other hand, probably wouldn't mind having their dick sucked by a woman under the desk, even if he didn't know her particularly well (especially if she's HOT).

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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/8/2012 9:13:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Even if you are not relationship oriented, most women don't like to be touched by strangers in that way. The idea of just hiring some penis carrier without a preliminary conversation? Icky. Add to that the variations in female sexual response, and it's just not a good idea.

These kinds of conversations just boggle me, and it seems like we have them ALL the time. The OP says that women don't make use of the services men have to offer. Well first, how does he know that? Second, we need what we need. The other week, I could have used a person good with tree pruning, but my dad did a great job and didn't do any forbidden climbing. Mechanic? How many people use those?

When I think of the services we have used over the past year, let's say, they have all been provided by professionals with licenses. People that we have some recourse with, should there be an issue with the job. Doesn't that just make *sense*? Other than the gruntwork of keeping the house up, what work do most people need done all that often? This past month, we got three new appliances (big sadface) and mirrors replaced in the bathrooms. Not something a random person could do.

And here is another mini-rant for you: why does it have to be done for HER, specifically? There's a submissive lady in my circle who is disabled and NEEDS help. When I've had Random Internet Dudes approach me, I ask them how that would be, if we went to her house and they say, cleaned the dog poops (LITTLE dog) from her yard and mowed her little lawn while she and I had tea? OH HELL NO. Not the sexay, is it, being that kind of helper. Which is sad, since she and I would have appreciated it, and I am more likely to play with people I see in a favourable light.

Whatever. Find a girlfriend, and do stuff for her.

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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/8/2012 10:49:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are a lot of men who will pay for sex. Women don't have the same wiring that men do so they hardly ever pay. Women will give a blowjob to a boss more than men give oral sex to a female boss or maybe it just seems that way from TV.


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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/8/2012 11:04:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		See my reply to Rochsub partly. For the purposes of my question, the woman would have to know its a D/s situation. re "mini-rant for you: why does it have to be done for HER, specifically?" if it wasn't done for her the recipient would have to know the reason behind it, as D/s for the question I asked.

Helping a woman who needs help with something not in a D/s context is a different question. A random person can't do everything you are right and a random person wouldn't automatically be good at housework or a random house task either. In my case I know I am usually good with MS Office and other "office work" which is kind of as general a type of work as housework and doesn't need a license.

What if you asked the random internet guy if she needed help filling out some paperwork or change a lightbulb (I know you can say there would be privacy issues) just like maybe the random guy was allergic to dog. There can always be a reason that someone won't want to do something that you might not know about either unrelated to if it is sexay or not.

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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/8/2012 11:06:15 AM   
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There are a lot of men who will pay for sex. Women don't have the same wiring that men do so they hardly ever pay. Women will give a blowjob to a boss more than men give oral sex to a female boss or maybe it just seems that way from TV.



Um, dude. Seriously. BECAUSE women aren't wired the same as men means that women, generally, DO NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR SEX, simply by virtue of BEING a woman.

Guys (generally) are willing to put their dicks in any wiling pussy. Most women are VERY PARTICULAR about what dick gets put into their pussy, because women are generally less interested in the act then they are THE PERSON. and btw... substitute TONGUE for dick. Personally, if the dick ain't gettin in, neither is any other appendage.

edited to add the post by the OP that I was responding to.

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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/8/2012 11:11:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Now that's presuming that women are too cheap to pay for easy sex, but we're not. It's more along the lines that we're less likely to need to.

Male employers are also much more likely to be bribed or blackmailed with sexual favours than female employers. Most women "sleeping their way to the top" do it for the pay off and nothing else. And it's really not as rampant as the TV box wants you to think.

But here's also a common truth. When a woman is approached for oral sex by a man she is not interested in, she's thinking "assault". When a man is approached for oral sex by a woman he is uninterested in, he thinks "hm, free sex".

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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/8/2012 11:34:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here's the D/s part: the people that serve me? Do what I tell them to do. A friend's slave was all huffy because he had to watch her kids! Imagine! Hey, whatever she asks is your job, that's the exciting life of slavery. Help my friend when I ask = helping me = more goodies for you. That's causality.



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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/8/2012 11:45:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Here's the D/s part: the people that serve me? Do what I tell them to do. A friend's slave was all huffy because he had to watch her kids! Imagine! Hey, whatever she asks is your job, that's the exciting life of slavery. Help my friend when I ask = helping me = more goodies for you. That's causality.




I do a whole bunch of things every day that I'd prefer not to do and have nothing to do with sex. It's because I've agreed to submit to him and serve him.


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RE: Secretary, assistant other skills for Mistresses - 10/8/2012 11:50:44 AM   
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Just to add, the D/s relationship I have with WW mainly revolves around the preparation and delivery of tea. Is this sexy in of itself? No. But seeing her smile when I do, there is nothing better.

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