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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 11:33:52 AM   
AthenaSurrenders


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Status: offline 		In the interest of education, Sylvere, what does the asterisk mean when you write trans*?

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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 11:37:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's a wildcard for "fill in the blank".

I don't want to seem ranty here...and if the OP wants to get it on with a drag queen, best of luck, I adore queens. There is SO much transphobia, and downright hatred, I try to encourage acceptance and squash stereotypes.

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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 12:16:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		oh ok, so it's just shorthand instead of typing trans man/trans woman/trans person?

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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 12:20:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hibbie nailed it. Instead of writing "transgender/transsexual/genderfluid/genderqueer/agender/other non-binary identity" the asterisk indicates that one is including the entire spectrum of the trans* community.

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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 12:36:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks. It's pretty obvious now I see it spelled out. Still, if you don't ask, you don't learn, right?

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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 12:45:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		True enough. And if there's one person asking the question, there's probably at least 5 more wondering the same thing but not speaking up about it.

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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 12:45:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		My bad, I did not know that, that term was derogatory. I apologize for being offensive, it was an ignorant question and use of terminology. Thank You for educating me on that and I will not make that mistake again.

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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 12:59:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank You, and I apologize for my ignorance which was genuine, I did not put much thought into my post nor how my generalizations might offend others. I guess I sounded pretty shallow and horny. Every time I log on to Collarme I get all hot and bothered hence my postings being jerk-off influenced, again i am sorry.

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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 1:03:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, You are right , my bad, i am unable to overcome my hornyness when i am on this site, and i apologize for my ignorant post, i really needed to be educated on the subject matter.

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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 1:05:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I want to expand on an issue Otters touched.

To be outwardly trans requires courage and a strong sense of self. Both of those traits are sexy, no matter where we find them. Its natural to be attracted to people who are PEOPLE and not just layers of facades and masks. Every trans person I know is fierce. That strength is forged in the crucible of self doubt, fear, discrimination, and confusion. For those that have made it out, what comes out is tried and true through a trial by fire.

On another point, I used to identify very much like you, Cruelity (sic). I felt that I was straight, and wanting nothing to do with dating a man. I didn't hate men, but never thought "ooh, that would be nice." When I went to the gym, I still ogled the ladies, disappointed when men got in my line of subtle sight. But I still wanted to play with a cock. I wanted to look up and see a "big fat cock" in your words, followed by "big fat tits" and a pretty feminine face. My mentor and I chatted about this a long while. She suggested that I'm not sexually attracted to men, but sexually attracted to penises. After years of keeping that possibility in mind, it continues to make more sense.

We're told, shown, and subliminally suggested that cocks are sexy. Hardcore porn always has a cock (or cock shaped sex toys!, ILU Storm Large). The cock represents power, pride, and a bad ass mudda who don't take no crap off of nobody.

So why are you attracted to trans women with penises? Because women are sexy, cocks are sexy, and self confidence is sexy. Now that you know why, what are you going to do about it?

< Message edited by BambiBoi -- 10/5/2012 1:11:43 PM >

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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 1:06:54 PM   
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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 1:10:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank You, i am sorry that i didn't put more thought into how my post might affect others, but thanks for looking past that and answering my question. i needed to change my terminology and not be so objectifying.

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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 1:13:26 PM   
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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 1:20:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow, excellent point (cocks being sexy etc.), good feed back, and i learned quite a bit, despite my post being offensive to some.

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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 1:23:50 PM   
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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 1:26:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		As a pre-op trans woman, I would like to say thank you Otters, for that comprehensive explanation of our feelings regarding our penises, and trans objectification. Given the still rampant misunderstanding of trans people out there, and the fact that I seem to have to explain myself in some way to at least 50 percent of the people who show an interest in me, I do appreciate it.

-Melissa :-)

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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 2:40:43 PM   
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I don't think you were so much "ignorant" as honest. I didn't see anything derogatory in your comments, and no TGs or TVs have taken offense.

The only way you can answer your question is to actually engage with a TG and see if it actually feels right to you and your partner. If you feel like running away from a TG/TV after the first date.... the score will be settled.

There's also the flip side of the coin, what will the other person see in you.

In General the CMMB is a shitty place for TVs and TGs. There's almost always a lot of stupid antagonism in place of genuine curiosity and understanding.

My two cents is this: if you've only recently developed this interest in being dominated by TG/TV at age 45 --- then it strikes me that your true feelings don't run very deep and that you'd probably prefer a female partner.

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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 2:50:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009
LadyPact,
We were obviously typing at the same time, because when I started writing my reply, your response hadn't been posted yet.

Personally, I partially disagree with your assessment. I think that there are many who are in denial about their inherent gay or bi-sexual feelings. But I think there are others who may find she-males to be erotic for a very different reason (as I outlined in my previous post).

I'm sure that you can relate to my idea that when a Domme takes her man with a strap-on, it can be a very dominant act.
We'll have to agree to disagree. Had the OP said he was interested in strap on sex, both oral and anal, I wouldn't have even brought the bi-curious part of this into play. The fact that he is thinking pre-op trans female as still engaging in male sexuality shows Me that he's not really seeing that person's gender as female and very specifically is interested in the male plumbing. I think it's more than he wants somebody who looks female, but is still acting sexually as a man.

Sorry. Want the flesh and blood penis of those fantasies? Bi-curious.



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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 3:02:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		An aside on "offensiveness".

The terms used early on in this thread are undoubtedly offensive to some. However, I observe that I have a friend who was born with male genitalia. As an adult, that friend has undertaken both surgery and other treatment, has changed their name by deed poll, and now has breasts in addition to said genitalia. My friend identifies themselves as a shemale. I therefore conclude that while the terms used offend many, they do not offend all.

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RE: Tranny love - 10/5/2012 3:26:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Whenready

I have a friend who....identifies themselves as a shemale. I therefore conclude that while the terms used offend many, they do not offend all.


"Well, I know another person from your group who disagrees!"

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