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Tolerance/endurance - 11/4/2004 2:44:37 PM   
softysub


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Hello.......

This might be a silly question, but i am asking anyway :) Is there a way to built your endurance to pain, like breathing techniques or something else?

I wish that my endurance would be much more than now, so i can please even more my Sir. Its like He knows that breasts play or nipple play i have difficulties handling that, and it makes me mad, mad at myself for not being able to push myself more and its not that i don't want to.... I guess you can say that those are my weaknesses and i want to be able to push myself more so for me to see His wonderful smile and i to be happy with myself.

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RE: Tolerance/endurance - 11/4/2004 3:28:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: softysub
Its like He knows that breasts play or nipple play i have difficulties handling that, and it makes me mad, mad at myself for not being able to push myself more and its not that i don't want to.... I guess you can say that those are my weaknesses and i want to be able to push myself more so for me to see His wonderful smile and i to be happy with myself.


Weird as it sounds, I'd say peirce your nipples.

No, this isn't my cure-all, but I had REALLY oversensitive breasts. That is, almost -any- touch was too much and totally overloaded my senses. My partner could barely play with them without me basically just grinning and bearing it, which to him is totally unappealing.

After I got them peirced, I can not only tolerate a whole whole lot more stimulation and contact, I find I actually -enjoy- it. It's simialr to the pleasure sensations I got from nipple clamps (which partially deadened the feeling) but all the time.

Most people say it makes theirs more senstiive, though, so who knows.

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RE: Tolerance/endurance - 11/4/2004 3:46:56 PM   
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There are several ways to handle pain. One of them is to breathe through it. Concentrate on breathing deeply and steadily. A lot of people hold their breath when in pain. It's the wrong thing to do.
Another way of coping with pain that I use personally for a bad knee is that you imagine your body as a large house. The pain is in one part of the house. You consciously go to another part of the house. An example, if someone were mowing the front lawn of your real house, you might go to the rear of the house to minimize the bother. This is active ignoring. It takes practice to get it. I find it helps me a lot when I'm having painful physical therapy done.

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RE: Tolerance/endurance - 11/4/2004 4:25:43 PM   
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quote:

Its like He knows that breasts play or nipple play i have difficulties handling that, and it makes me mad, mad at myself for not being able to push myself more and its not that i don't want to...


For your nips you can use clothes pins several times a day, gradually leaving them on longer and longer.

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RE: Tolerance/endurance - 11/4/2004 8:27:20 PM   
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for this girl it's about a 5 lettter word.........


F O C U S

When doing something new, or even something that this girl knows is going to be
painful, pushing limits, or flying off the edge.... this girl learned to focus... take deep
cleansing breathes and with the exhale... you blow the pain (if it's painful to you) out
on the inhale you spread it. Example.... Getting a injection at the doctors office. Instead
of the pain being in one spot... it starts in one spot and spreads and spreads and spreads
until it is no more.

This girl truly believes her love of zippers, hard thuddy flogging that nearly knocks the
breath out of you, as well as single tail play that can/does leave marks for a few days
to a week or more comes from the ability to process pain... make it disappear. But
there is also the joy of seeing 25-50 clothes pins circling each breast and then hearing the
reaction when they come off zippity zip. LOL.. something about grabbing 2 ends of lace on each
breast and having them yanked off just absolutely cleans the room out sometimes.

Hope you find what works for you.....



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RE: Tolerance/endurance - 11/5/2004 6:44:10 AM   
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Pain is controlled mentally; just like in child birth they use the Lamaze technique and several others. <look them up and see how they work> But you want to be careful because if you mentally focus on an object are you really focusing on your Dominate? So you have to have an inner focus an inner mind to please..

And as shocking as it may seem, the fact is sugar increase pain endorphins, the most natural sugar the better.


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RE: Tolerance/endurance - 11/5/2004 12:03:18 PM   
othiym


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quote:

Weird as it sounds, I'd say peirce your nipples.


Hrm, though it may have worked for you, my experience is that piercing made mine more sensitive...because the flesh on either side of the rings are being pinched ..so, 2x the sensitivity. As well, if there's a lot of rough play going on, ive almost had mine bitten out before, and call me vain--but that's something I'd take into account. And if this girl doesn't like pain...well, I'd caution against it for SURE. ~worst pain ever~

quote:

There are several ways to handle pain. One of them is to breathe through it. Concentrate on breathing deeply and steadily. A lot of people hold their breath when in pain. It's the wrong thing to do.


This, I entirely agree with!! Breathing out is when your muscles will be at their most relaxed, and it will hurt the least. You must concentrate on deep breaths and then slowly letting them out, making sure you stay as *relaxed* as possible. It got me through 6 hours of tattoo session, it'll work for a crop any day.

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RE: Tolerance/endurance - 11/5/2004 5:35:40 PM   
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I have to get in a "zone" immediately, before the pain really gets intense. Usually breathing or concentrating on something pleasant works. However, if my concentration is broken, I can't get back in focus and it gets pretty miserable.

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RE: Tolerance/endurance - 11/6/2004 7:23:16 AM   
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The trick to breathing to endure pain is to do from the diaphram and not the chest - to find the right type of breath lie on yr back, place one hand on yr chest and the other on yr stomach just below yr ribs. Take a normal breath. Feel which part of your body it goes into. Does yr chest rise and fall or your stomach - or both? Try to isolate the feeling of your breath. If you breath from your upper chest you are not using the total capacity of your lungs and so not maximising your total oxygen intake.

Lie still and quiet. try to breath deeply from your stomach. If you are struggking, place both hands with the tips of your fingers together on yr stomach. As you inhale you should feel your fingertips parting.

You may find this makes you slightly dizzy to start with but stick with it. Go slowly and try not to rush. You may find that you breath in this way in a different rythm to the one you are used to.

Once you can isolate yr breathing and control it you can use it to help control pain. It's meditative and centres you. Helps you get into the right headspace.

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RE: Tolerance/endurance - 11/6/2004 7:19:11 PM   
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Patience, dear one, patience and practice. Learning to build your threshhold for pain is like learning to deal with any other unfamiliar sensation. This requires that you be patient with yourself, and it requires some patience, care, and dedication on the part of your top as well. Explain to your top that you want to push your boundaries, but that it may take you some time. When you get into some sort of play that makes you uncomfortable, try your very best to go on, to endure more than you had before, but use your alternate safeword once you start reaching your limits.

(Some folks use multiple safewords to communicate various factors, including "stop the scene entirely", "stop using that particular toy/activity", "this is hitting a lot of emotional issues", "I'm having physical problems", "slow down/not so intense", or "more/faster/harder". Most folks do not use all of these safewords, as it is an awful lot to remember, but if you do not, you might want to adopt a secondary code word for training purposes)

It is helpful for your top to reward you when you have managed to exceed some previous endurance limit, and to encourage you in attaining your goals. In this, they are as much your trainer as you are their plaything, and I can think of few tops who, when their bottom undertakes such a regimen in order to better themselves for their partner's amusement, would not be more than happy to make suitable accomodations.

In the cases of extreme physical sensation, I have found that arousal is often quite helpful. My wife has absolutely no pain tolerance, and I have a taste for fairly severe sensation play. Cuddling and teasing early on in the scene helps her to relax and enter a submissive mindset, and then a continued program of teasing while increasing the amount of bondage and intensifying the sensations applied does wonders for her ability to submit (not to mention doing wonders for my male ego). Starting slow and gradually building the intensity is very often the way to go.

Of course, if this is how your top normally plays with you, you might consider the opposite approach. Some times the intense shock of an extreme sensation helps to desensitize, thus making lesser stimulation more bearable by contrast. Five or six hard snaps of the cane can make five minutes of nipple clamps seem quite mild, and could help you to gain more confidence in your ability to endure.

Finally, there is simply the "whining and crying" approach (which, actually, I am quite fond of. I kind of wish I didn't have such a high pain threshhold, since I think it's as much fun to do, as it is to do unto others). If your top seriously enjoys hurting you, and you want them to enjoy themselves, then make the fact that you find the pain unbearable part of the scene. Give yourself to them, with the full knowledge and anticipation of this torture, and be unabashed in your begging, pleading, and heartfelt shrieks of pain and suffering. Believe it or not, some times suffering is a serious turn-on. Don't "handle it". Don't bear it. SUFFER for your dominant's amusement. If your kick is to serve, and their kick is to hurt you, then suffer in your servitude and you can both gain some satisfaction.

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RE: Tolerance/endurance - 11/6/2004 8:03:01 PM   
softysub


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Hi:

Last night i had a session with my Dom and i tried the techniques and it didnt worked, i tried breathing and not to focus too much on the pain while i had my nipples tied up to hooks with rope and be on my tiptoes and it failed. I was so sad that i couldnt do it long enough so Sir could be pleased.

We always talked after a session and He said i was awesome, but i was mostly disappointed in myself, i wanted to give more of me last night......even if He keeps telling me how great i was etc....well it does cut it out for me.

I do want to thank E/everyone for their advice. I guess the best thing is to practice, go with the flow and accept that i pleased Sir.

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RE: Tolerance/endurance - 11/6/2004 8:27:38 PM   
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softysub,

pay attention to what stormi is going to share with you. As we sound like kindred spirits.
This girl's Master says that stormi is much harder on herself than He can be.

To be honest stormi doubts that statement for several reasons of late but nonetheless,
from experience, IF the Dom a sub is serving sees and feels that the girl gave 110%, then
most likely they are very pleased. The other thing is simply that you might be loosing track of time.

stormi used to loose track of time, especially the first time she played publicly, stormi remembers
apologizing over and over, finally the Dom hugged stormi tighter and said girl.... how long do you
think you were up on the cross.... stormi replied about 15 minutes are so..... He smiled along with
several close Dom friends around us and said girl you were there for over 90 minutes and never
moved!!!!

IF this girl could offer one piece of advise and goodness knows stormi wishes she could follow it
herself, Cut yourself some slack. Don't rush... in time you will be able to take much more. Allow
the Dom the opportunity to push your limits.. He will be watching your face and body for signs of stress .
and deal with it accordingly.

stormi wishes you the best.


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RE: Tolerance/endurance - 11/7/2004 6:01:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Suleiman

Don't "handle it". Don't bear it. SUFFER for your dominant's amusement. If your kick is to serve, and their kick is to hurt you, then suffer in your servitude and you can both gain some satisfaction.


Amen to this, and to stormi's talk about being hard on herself. I have found I get the most frustrated when I don't live up to what I think I should be able to endure, only to find out that it's the ultimate satisfaction for my Master that I continue to strive to do, for HIM, what he very well knows I am unable to do...so far. lol

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