Anaxagoras
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Once again Vincent you're being very selective. Few on here (including myself) think the Iraq War was anything other than a terrible mistake but the US (and others) had good reason to reject the 12,000 page document as nothing other than recycled bullshit
I thank you for the compliment, Anax. Selective and discerning, indeed. Both higher order strategies of creative thinking. Good of you to notice. 
I of course meant selective with the truth but if you misunderstood and thought I was referring to cognitive categorisation then I suggest you should revisit your Nietzsche! 
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As to Mr Blix, it is true he admitted his work was not done. Blix found no stockpiles of WMD, said Iraq was being "proactive" if not always "immediate" in complying with UN Security Council 1441. "He concluded that it would take “but months” to resolve the key remaining disarmament tasks." GW Bush, without opening the 12,000 page Declaration I'm guessing, threw a hissy in front of the Security Council and demanded a new resolution to apply force. The SC told Bushie to go pound salt.
Wow I actually thought you would come back with the strawman response above! You stated that Iraq was co-operating with the UN and cited a 12,000 page declaration. My point is the document was nonsense, as was widely acknowledged at the time. It was little more than a time gaining measure and the US rightly rejected it as did other parties in the UN (including Blix). Your assertion that Iraq was co-operating fully with UN 1441 is disputed even by your quote above states, and the dubious declaration lends weight to that claim.
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A terrible mistake, you call it, Anax? Fuck no! It was more than an oops! How fucking insensitive we have become to war-horror to call it a mistake. It was an outrageous criminal act ot terror upon an innocent people and in the name of innocent people.
Unwilling to give Blixie just a few more months George gathered a bunch of other foolish national leaders and went off to fight his 'splendid little war' ala TRoosevelt, resulting in the deaths of untold numbers of Iraqi civilians and Coalition troops. Who knows how many humans escaped death but were left maimed or displaced from their homes? Shock n Awe! Shock n Awe! We'll be home by Christmas. Oh, it was a fine moment for AmeriEngland. Don't get me started.
I opposed the war at the time and also the other interventionist actions that Clinton engaged in during the 90's but the reality with Iraq does not seem to be as clear-cut or malign as you suggest. I agree Blix should have been given more time but ultimately Iraq had not complied with UN 1441 even in spirit. Blix also acknowledged that Iraq hadn't genuinely committed to disarm http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/01/27/sprj.irq.blix.report/index.html and asserted that there was a good deal of chemical material that remained unaccounted.
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