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Politesub53 -> RE: Iran VS Israel (10/24/2012 5:21:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ermood

Cold war with Israel?

Iran didn't chose side in the cold war, Iran had never a war with Israel and doesn't want one...

Israel even supported Iran during the cold war (Iraq-Iran war), but that was ofcourse all planned out by the US gouverment...

Iran has always supported Palestine, and not becouse of the same reasons like Jordan/Egypt/Saudi-Arabia and Syria, but for the reason that matters...humanity.



Israel supplied arms to both sides........ You could do with some fact checking before posting.




ermood -> RE: Iran VS Israel (10/24/2012 5:21:55 PM)

True, these are different and having effect, but that doesn't mean the sanctions are working.
Iran wil never give up its nuclear program, besides that Iran can move its trade to lots of other countries... the oil that was meant to the EU countries is now deliverd to India and China for example.




ermood -> RE: Iran VS Israel (10/24/2012 5:23:03 PM)

Actually, Israel did nothing but supplying US weapons to Iran, the US themselfs where arming Iraq.




YN -> RE: Iran VS Israel (10/24/2012 5:24:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ermood

Cold war with Israel?

Iran didn't chose side in the cold war, Iran had never a war with Israel and doesn't want one...

Israel even supported Iran during the cold war (Iraq-Iran war), but that was ofcourse all planned out by the US gouverment...

Iran has always supported Palestine, and not becouse of the same reasons like Jordan/Egypt/Saudi-Arabia and Syria, but for the reason that matters...humanity.


The Israelis supported Iran and Irag both during their war in a cynical move to prolong the war and cause the maximum damage. That was revealed by the political opposition in Israel.

As for their support for the Palestinians, only the naive think this is entirely altruistic.




ermood -> RE: Iran VS Israel (10/24/2012 5:26:45 PM)

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As for their support for the Palestinians, only the naive think this is entirely altruistic.


Can you tell me this again but then in normal English?




ermood -> RE: Iran VS Israel (10/24/2012 5:28:50 PM)

I post within a few days some reasons that you wanted to know why i hate the US gouverment, just started to work on it;)




YN -> RE: Iran VS Israel (10/24/2012 5:29:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ermood

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As for their support for the Palestinians, only the naive think this is entirely altruistic.


Can you tell me this again but then in normal English?


No.




ermood -> RE: Iran VS Israel (10/24/2012 5:34:33 PM)

ok, then i can only say that you agree with me;)




tweakabelle -> RE: Iran VS Israel (10/24/2012 7:38:10 PM)

Many of the posts here seem to be based on the premise that the Two State solution is still possible. But is it? There's the small matter of some 5-600,000 colonists residing on stolen land on the West bank. They say they are not going anywhere. It would take an internal civil war in Israel to unseat them, a prospect no Israeli Govt would dare contemplate. As long as they remain where they are, a Two State solution seems impossible.

The other day, ex- Israeli PM Olmert warned that unless a viable Palestinian State was formed, Israel, faced with an Arab majority, would become an apartheid State. Olmert asserts such a State would not be tenable, and eventually a bi-national State would result. It seems no matter which way the cake is cut, the Zionist fantasy of an exclusively Jewish State will be a casualty of continued occupation. Responsibility for this state of affairs, FWIW, can be attributed almost entirely to the greed and intransigence of the Israeli Right.

This article examines the growing movement towards accepting a bi-National State:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/23/israel-palestine-two-state-solution




ermood -> RE: Iran VS Israel (10/24/2012 7:59:07 PM)

I highly doubt that Israel and Palestine wil live in peace along side eachother in this time, the only chance that they could live along side eachother in peace and in this century would be if Palestine would become a member of the UN, but i can not say what Israel would do then, and how other countries would react if Israel wouldn't lift their siege and abandon gazastrip and the westbank.




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