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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/18/2012 2:00:56 PM   
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The problem ain't you-it's the men you picked.
Meet a real dom, a guy who lives and breathes this shit and you'll be fine.
He'll scratch all your itches, hit those bright red buttons and also nail a few you never even knew existed.

Lots of guys talk the game, few few walk it.
Your problem is gonna be that meeting that right guy, yeah, he's the needle in the haystack and most of em get nabbed right quick.
Hate to say it and all, but it's my experience that it's zounds harder for a gal to find a serious dom than the other way around.
And this holds true for munches as well as on sites such as this

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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/18/2012 2:54:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Its like high school reunions:

5 year:  Yeah, I am the Vice President of Interflexionvorkrach pullin down 200K and really living the dream. (response: wow I am doing pretty great myself)

10 year:  Yeah, needed some time off the mill, own a picture framing studio now making out like a bandit. (response: wow, nice you can live the dream and have it all)

20 year:  Well, been thru a couple wives, got upside down in my mortgage, but getting by...(response:  Wow, glad you are still making it. hope I can get that far)

30 year or 40 year.  Yeah, I been a crack whore for the last 20 years, sucking cock for 2 bucks a shot, I really fucked up.  (response:  wow, bet that don't come with dental)

Like that.  Be the best you can be, and you dont have to join the Marines to do it, and if you want to join them, thats fine too.






I needed a chuckle this afternoon...thanks mnottertail! :)

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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/18/2012 9:25:13 PM   
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I could answer your questions but it would be a very long post. If you really want my answers I will write you an email. So I am going to address your second post about the relationships.

Maybe I am completely off the wall here but it sounds to me like there is a communication problem. From what you wrote you would have liked it if he bent you over his knee, raised your dress, pulled down your panties (if you were wearing any), spank your ass till it was bright red and you were crying like a baby. Even if that is not exactly what you wanted then you probably wanted something along those lines.

My question to you is did you say that to him? And I am talking about in those words. Or did you try to surreptitiously get to the point and spoke in vague terms? Very seldom do people actually say what they mean. Normally when we speak we put out words through a filter.

There is nothing wrong with this. It has to be done to function in today’s society. But societal norms seldom work in relationships. That is the one place where honest talk is a necessity. There is a difference between being honest and being cruel. You can be one without being the other. Just do not ask me “Does this outfit make me look fat?”

Like mnottertail said “It goes against childhood teachings” to be in a D/s relationship. Children are taught to care for and nurture each other. Children are not taught to take “perverse” pleasure from totally dominating another person. Society says that both sexes are equal to each other. Do you expect to change twenty years of teaching in a year?

As important as good communication is in a vanilla relationship; it is doubly important in a D/s relationship. Communication is an art form. In order to communicate an idea then you need to be speaking the same language as the person you are talking to. A BDSM relationship is totally foreign to most people. So you need to talk about it in a way they can understand. What I am trying to get across is do not talk in quantum physics terms if you are talking to a carpenter.

If you have trouble expressing you needs to your partner then practice writing them down. I am sure others here could give you some ideas on how to discuss what you need with your partner.

Hope this helps.

Larry


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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/19/2012 11:01:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PetitBunny
When did you first realize this lifestyle is part of who you are? Do you find that once you did, you felt liberated from your experience? Did you have a lightbulb moment when reflecting on your past?I'll share my answers to be fair. :)

For me there was never this big epiphany. Carol and I ran into WIITWD well into our marriage and elements of it got added into the existing relationship. But I never had some huge "WOW, I'M KINKY" moment and, in fact, it's always been a semi-awkward fit. But in the end, our marriage works the way it does and a part of that has always been an authority dynamic so I find plenty of commonality with the M/s segment of BDSM. Over time, exposure has certainly made my perceptions (if not my actual deeds) more kinky and that's an entirely good thing. I like it that my horizons have been expanded and I've learned something regarding the actual breadth of human relationships and sexuality. As a result of the collaring our marriage changed in some ways and not in others. As I said, the authority dynamic was always there. But in electing the changes we did that dynamic got refined.

I want more than anything to have mutual trust and respect, but no matter how much I gave, I was never fully trusted. I know that no relationship is "safe" from mistrust, but has anyone experienced this before your first D/s relationship? Did that change with your first D/s relationship?
No and no. Trust is not something which is formed on sexual habits... at least not for me. Trust is something which is formed on the basis of an overall assessment of a person's character.

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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/20/2012 10:00:10 AM   
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Maybe this poster isn't poly, that might be true after she has gave more information.
She is definitely a sex addict IMO, just as Janah said, I agree with that.

I think the poster needs a very confident man who is kinky for sure. Most vanilla guys just aren't gonna feel comfortable with her needs.
Just as Jeff said, sometimes these things grow too , a relationship thru time.
But Id definitely discuss it if you find a guy you really like, Id ask without actually asking at first, if that makes sense. Because some people put on that Best face just to please at first, when in reality, its not what they want or can handle, its what they do to get the girl.

Good luck poster, hope you find what you need.

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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/20/2012 10:52:49 AM   
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Bunny, I'm thinking the issue is that you waited too long to let your partners see the real you. When we have desires that go beyond what many consider "normal," it's even more important to be honest and upfront about those desires. Sexual incompatibility is as much a death sentence to a relationship as any other form of incompatibility and the failure, as is usually the case, is one of communication. I let any girl in whom I have romantic interest know about my nature, sex drive, and needs as soon as we get to the stage when discussions begin to turn toward sex. I bring up that I am a dom even sooner because there's no point wasting time with someone who fundamentally cannot thrive under that kind of dynamic.

As for how I realized this lifestyle was for me? It was always there but I spent years in conflict between personality/interests and my modern beliefs. I was raised mostly by strong women, taught to respect women and not to be a chauvinist. I consider myself an enlightened feminist so, when I first had the impulse to pin a girlfriend down and have my way with her, it shocked me a bit. I thought it was wrong and disrespectful. I was confused and that confusion played havoc with my relationships, making me alternately powerful and timid, causing more than one girl to say, "You're not who I thought you were." I would buy handcuffs and not use them, grab a partner roughly then let go because I felt I had crossed some line. Finally, I met and dated a lesbian who happened to be submissive. She was a major feminist, activist, postmodernist everything. Through her, I was able to explore my desires without fear of judgment and I learned that my desires did not make me an aberration or a Neanderthal. She helped me understand that being a dominant male and being a modern man who respected women and their rights were not mutually exclusive. I could finally breathe free.

Don't be afraid of yourself. Be honest with partners so you can find the person who won't be afraid of you. Do these things and you will be okay.

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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/20/2012 10:59:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ursamajour

Bunny, I'm thinking the issue is that you waited too long to let your partners see the real you. When we have desires that go beyond what many consider "normal," it's even more important to be honest and upfront about those desires. Sexual incompatibility is as much a death sentence to a relationship as any other form of incompatibility and the failure, as is usually the case, is one of communication. I let any girl in whom I have romantic interest know about my nature, sex drive, and needs as soon as we get to the stage when discussions begin to turn toward sex. I bring up that I am a dom even sooner because there's no point wasting time with someone who fundamentally cannot thrive under that kind of dynamic.

As for how I realized this lifestyle was for me? It was always there but I spent years in conflict between personality/interests and my modern beliefs. I was raised mostly by strong women, taught to respect women and not to be a chauvinist. I consider myself an enlightened feminist so, when I first had the impulse to pin a girlfriend down and have my way with her, it shocked me a bit. I thought it was wrong and disrespectful. I was confused and that confusion played havoc with my relationships, making me alternately powerful and timid, causing more than one girl to say, "You're not who I thought you were." I would buy handcuffs and not use them, grab a partner roughly then let go because I felt I had crossed some line. Finally, I met and dated a lesbian who happened to be submissive. She was a major feminist, activist, postmodernist everything. Through her, I was able to explore my desires without fear of judgment and I learned that my desires did not make me an aberration or a Neanderthal. She helped me understand that being a dominant male and being a modern man who respected women and their rights were not mutually exclusive. I could finally breathe free.

Don't be afraid of yourself. Be honest with partners so you can find the person who won't be afraid of you. Do these things and you will be okay.


What a great post of understanding ones self. Bunny should get some enlightment from that cause its so very very true. When we can understand we are part of the problem and we figure it out.

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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/23/2012 6:31:39 PM   
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I believe each of us have that aha moment and really don't realize it for what it really is. For me it happened early in age and was later reinforced through several strategic encounters. In those early years it was very difficult to find any information on the whole BDSM, S&M, Bondage lifestyle but I managed and was able to learn through persistent research. During my early travels to Germany and the Netherlands I found information was much easier to come by. The movie Story of O was a huge leap forward for many of us. The Internet has definitely made it more mainstream for us all but back to your questions. Whatever the spark, you're here now exploring as you need to in order to satisfy that yearning thirst deep in your soul.

I too did the vanilla marriage only to have it end catastrophically in divorce and I too feel it was the fact I wasn't true to my deepest feelings of being a Dominant really looking for a true submissive/slave. As you can see I still haven't found her but I won't give up. In the mean time I keep in shape and practice through various venues associated with this lifestyle. You should be open and honest right up front and if they freak out then it wasn't meant to be. I have tried this several times and sometimes they get it and other times they run. Just keep trying and eventually you develop that extra sense that allows you to bring it up or call it your last date. It think the reason your previous love interests may have moved on was their fear of not being able to please someone who DID know what they wanted and expected in the bedroom or regarding sex in its purest form. Do you recall their immediate response when your finally discussed the specifics of what you were looking for?

My advice is first be true to yourself and what you desire and then look for that special someone that captures and embraces the essence of your desire. I was lucky having an older married women who was bored with her marriage and associated dull sex life ask me if I'd ever spanked someone. After several hours of discussion I asked her if she would trust me enough to not only spank her but take her down a path she probably never explored before. Do to her maturity she agreed and I immediately put her to the test by asking her to give me her panties right there in the restaurant. She reached up under her skirt and surprised me with a thong. From there things blossomed through mutual trust. Unfortunately her Husband was relocated and she moved on.

These experiences helped me realize I was not flawed and that this lifestyle had merit for further and deeper exploration. You are normal and should explore wherever you think you need to go with it. The threesome may just be another step in your learning so you have no reason to feel guilty. Be glad your blessed with a healthy libido. Would love to talk more!




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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/23/2012 11:46:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chatterbox24


quote:

ORIGINAL: ursamajour

Bunny, I'm thinking the issue is that you waited too long to let your partners see the real you. When we have desires that go beyond what many consider "normal," it's even more important to be honest and upfront about those desires. Sexual incompatibility is as much a death sentence to a relationship as any other form of incompatibility and the failure, as is usually the case, is one of communication. I let any girl in whom I have romantic interest know about my nature, sex drive, and needs as soon as we get to the stage when discussions begin to turn toward sex. I bring up that I am a dom even sooner because there's no point wasting time with someone who fundamentally cannot thrive under that kind of dynamic.

As for how I realized this lifestyle was for me? It was always there but I spent years in conflict between personality/interests and my modern beliefs. I was raised mostly by strong women, taught to respect women and not to be a chauvinist. I consider myself an enlightened feminist so, when I first had the impulse to pin a girlfriend down and have my way with her, it shocked me a bit. I thought it was wrong and disrespectful. I was confused and that confusion played havoc with my relationships, making me alternately powerful and timid, causing more than one girl to say, "You're not who I thought you were." I would buy handcuffs and not use them, grab a partner roughly then let go because I felt I had crossed some line. Finally, I met and dated a lesbian who happened to be submissive. She was a major feminist, activist, postmodernist everything. Through her, I was able to explore my desires without fear of judgment and I learned that my desires did not make me an aberration or a Neanderthal. She helped me understand that being a dominant male and being a modern man who respected women and their rights were not mutually exclusive. I could finally breathe free.

Don't be afraid of yourself. Be honest with partners so you can find the person who won't be afraid of you. Do these things and you will be okay.


What a great post of understanding ones self. Bunny should get some enlightment from that cause its so very very true. When we can understand we are part of the problem and we figure it out.


Agreed, chatter, ursa's post and advice is spot on. Thanks, ursa.

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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/24/2012 1:34:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PetitBunny

Hello everyone. :)


I believe I always knew this is part of who I am, even before I lost my virginity (very late age). I masturbated at least two or three times a day when I first discovered I could have an orgasm at a very young. I couldn't get enough sex and the more sex I did have, the more I wanted and the more I wanted to explore. This is probably normal, but as I got older I started to see throughtout the years, whomever my boyfriends were, did not feel the same. I wanted to make movies, have sex to porn, be choked, spanked, be fingered in public without anyone having a clue and much more. I was married a short time and even after begging to fuck to porn, he was not into it. I thought there was something wrong with me, felt guilt, shame and so on. Fast forward to only about a year and a half ago. I had my second threesome with this wonderful, wonderful couple that are good friends of mine. While another friend of ours watched. It was absolutely liberating. I loved every second of it. I was their toy to play with and I felt so in my element. Total respect in the whole experience. I wanted more, but I was left satisifed in a way I had never experienced before. I had met someone shortly after that and again, supressed it. Well, I think I've realized recently that my lifestyle desire is what caused all my breakups. Not because there is something wrong with me. No, I know that now (after having a good talk with a good Dom friend, whom I didn't know was one), but because my partner never felt like I was fully satisfied. I had to BEG for anything other than just regular (can't think of a better word) sex. Eventually, they all ended because their insecurities got the best of them. I wanted them to dominate me and not just in the bedroom and in non-sexual ways as well. Wanting to wear bondage under my clothes in public was never on the table, in any of my past relationships. Okay, so I could probably go on, but I hope it all makes sense to where I am going.

Okay, so more than three questions, but I'm eager to read any responses.




Ehhh you are pretty much clueless how to have any relationship. You claim you want a dom to do x y and then Z. When the reality is dom tells you what he wants and you obey. Secondly the most fulfilling night you had <according to you> was not with a dom but a 3 sum <opps there goes the strong confident dom theory that have been bandied about in this thread> . Finally you refuse to accept responsibility for your failures, It's always the other dudes fault.

To my way of thinking you need to get a handle on what your about before attempting to engage in a relationship.

BadOne

< Message edited by SailingBum -- 10/24/2012 1:39:33 PM >


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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/25/2012 4:34:21 PM   
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lets see if i can remember that far back..i always been addicted to sex and the art of it..since i learned to walk my father taught me about women. By the time i was 21 the books i read were all mostly sex manuals and sex therapy books. When i was looking to find a skilled piercer to split my tongue he became my friend and key into the lifestyle. After my 21st bday he invited me to help him at a hole in the wall rock bar in illnois. He was demonstrating hook pulls on a few female dominants. They got my attention right away from the way they dressed. The hook pulls and the scenes they performed for some fellow spectators sparked something inside me. The spark grew to the point where i paid for a quick scene with the ladies. I forgot how long they beat me in front of the spectators but it felt like hours. The combination of pain and gentle carressing triggered something inside me. The spark became a flame and my dominant side came out completely for the first time by itself. That night i was baptized in the lifestyle and i found the right people to teach me and developed my own style of bdsm. This lifestyle is a religion for me now and the lovers i gained have been more enjoyable.

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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/26/2012 8:37:48 PM   
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I just don't understand what it is I did wrong. I've been faithful in all my relationships and have never entered into a monogamus relationship unless I new I could be 100% faithful, not having the desire to be with someone else. It's fine in the beginning. It's when I ask if he wants to tie me up and spank me until my ass is red and throbbing. I like to be dominated in other aspects, not just sexually. It's pyschological for me. Getting permission to do things, making me clean the house, run to the store because he has a craving for a certain flavor of ice cream, giving me a curfew or not, whenever he feels like it and not having to give me a reason why. When my boyfriends would ask me if I want to have sex, for some reason, my desire goes away or lessens. Of course I want to have sex. He would never has to ask me. I want him to just take me whenever he wants, without asking. If there are the rare times I really don't want to because I'm really sick with a terrible cold, then I'll mention it.
I ask sweetly if these are things they would want to do to me. I only want to be with a man who WANTS to do these things. It pleases me to please him. That's when the relationship changes. They start driving by my place to see if I'm home when I say I am. They start checking my cell phone and asking who every single person is in there. Accused me of wanting to bang their friends because we were in the same room together. Wanting to know who I was talking to, what the conversation was and so on. Where exactly did I go and do with my girlfriends that I would rarely see because he would be upset, jealous and skeptical about doing things without him. Why would all these things happen AFTER I bring up asking if he would want to do those things to me. Because I do have a few swinger friends that are couples, my ex thought that was too strange and coincidental for me to not be sleeping with all of them. I ended with him after about a year because he said he spent too much time wondering if I really loved him and he couldn't fully trust me. He said it was his issue, promised to work on it, and wanted me back.

Am I truly just a nympho/sex addict? Do none of these desires make me a submissive?

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Bunny,

lilwonder and osidegirl made some valid comments.....but to the core of the issue; you have a very high sex drive with a desire to please a partner and earn thir admiration. Many males cannot raise to your level due to many issues that may be too numerous for this short note.

Be confident in what you want and eventually it will come to you.

CP

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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/27/2012 4:45:11 PM   
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Just like Sinfix said, I think you weren't upfront with them/you from thd get go.
I found my girl not too long ago. From the get go we both said that we are hoes and it is all good.

Take your time and find your right match ( it could take a while though)

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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/27/2012 5:27:15 PM   
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Frankly, I dont think its a real profile.

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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/27/2012 5:35:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kana

The problem ain't you-it's the men you picked.
Meet a real dom, a guy who lives and breathes this shit and you'll be fine.
He'll scratch all your itches, hit those bright red buttons and also nail a few you never even knew existed.

Lots of guys talk the game, few few walk it.
Your problem is gonna be that meeting that right guy, yeah, he's the needle in the haystack and most of em get nabbed right quick.
Hate to say it and all, but it's my experience that it's zounds harder for a gal to find a serious dom than the other way around.And this holds true for munches as well as on sites such as this


Amen to that. I think there are tons more fab women than fab men around.

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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/27/2012 5:43:11 PM   
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Frankly, I dont think its a real profile.


Why not?

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RE: New to the site and have a few questions I'd like t... - 10/27/2012 9:45:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ursamajour

Bunny, I'm thinking the issue is that you waited too long to let your partners see the real you. When we have desires that go beyond what many consider "normal," it's even more important to be honest and upfront about those desires. Sexual incompatibility is as much a death sentence to a relationship as any other form of incompatibility and the failure, as is usually the case, is one of communication. I let any girl in whom I have romantic interest know about my nature, sex drive, and needs as soon as we get to the stage when discussions begin to turn toward sex. I bring up that I am a dom even sooner because there's no point wasting time with someone who fundamentally cannot thrive under that kind of dynamic.

As for how I realized this lifestyle was for me? It was always there but I spent years in conflict between personality/interests and my modern beliefs. I was raised mostly by strong women, taught to respect women and not to be a chauvinist. I consider myself an enlightened feminist so, when I first had the impulse to pin a girlfriend down and have my way with her, it shocked me a bit. I thought it was wrong and disrespectful. I was confused and that confusion played havoc with my relationships, making me alternately powerful and timid, causing more than one girl to say, "You're not who I thought you were." I would buy handcuffs and not use them, grab a partner roughly then let go because I felt I had crossed some line. Finally, I met and dated a lesbian who happened to be submissive. She was a major feminist, activist, postmodernist everything. Through her, I was able to explore my desires without fear of judgment and I learned that my desires did not make me an aberration or a Neanderthal. She helped me understand that being a dominant male and being a modern man who respected women and their rights were not mutually exclusive. I could finally breathe free.

Don't be afraid of yourself. Be honest with partners so you can find the person who won't be afraid of you. Do these things and you will be okay.



This is very similar to my story. Slight difference: the women I grew up around could be scary. Like Freddy Kruger scary. Sweet as pie right up until they put on the hockey mask.*

I had the cravings long before I had any words for them. From a very young age. About 1st grade or so. Hell, I had no idea that any women would ever do these sorts of things. I thought they were just fantasies of my fevered imagination. An enlightened 20th/21st century red-blooded American man doesn't believe in female slavery and tying his lovers up! That's insanity! That's...

...an awful lot of sexy fun, actually.

So I've always been into "it." I just didn't know what "it" was until I was in my mid-twenties.


*Yes, I know that I'm mixing up my horror movies there. Roll with it.

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