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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/20/2012 5:15:36 AM   
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Athena stole my thunder and said pretty much what I would say so thumbs up to her.

Duskypearls, Some of the things you said I already know but I did not know about all those psychological parameters and I am glad to have the information.

The OP definitely needs to communicate with her Dom.

Thanks for the post and the all answers.

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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/20/2012 5:40:57 AM   
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OP, if I were you, and the following resonated, I would tell him that without the following in place, punishment feels abusive/harmful emotionally:

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It's usually easier to accept a punishment when the rules are clear, a warning has been given, the offense is understood, and the punishment is administered shortly after the offense in proportion to its severity.

For each of these one takes away, the probability of a problem rises, as a general rule.


For me, His disappointment in me was always punishment enough. I have never been in a physical punishment dynamic and doubt I ever will.

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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/20/2012 6:11:07 AM   
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I wasn't there, I'm not either of the two of you, but I have to say that your 'transgression' does not seem, to me, to warrant the punishment you described. His reaction to me seems over the top and I'm absolutely willing to agree that i don't know squat about the situation- still, the whole thing makes me uncomfortable.



I thought this too but wasn't sure how to say it in a nice way.

It sounds like he told you to do something and you playfully said 'you could make me'. I would interpret that as flirting, not disobedience. If that happened between us (and that sort of thing often does) and he wasn't in the mood, he'd likely say 'do as you are told' and that would be the end of it. A severe punishment, especially two days later, seems like an extreme reaction. Especially since you've never been punished before, so it's not like the expected level of severity has already been worked out between you over time. I wasn't there, I don't know how it played out, but it also sounds like he didn't make it clear that you would be punished, and just sprung it on you later. To be truthful it sounds like you were baffled by the whole situation. I would be too, if it happened to me. It feels like without clearly defined expectations, warnings (at least at first) and punishments which are clearly explained you run the risk of falling into this trap again.

I think this would be damaging for the relationship if Himself did this to me, because it would make me constantly second-guess and question him. I'd be worried about what I could and couldn't say or do, and I'd be worried that he was saving up some punishment for me. I've always said that part of the reason a punishment dynamic works for us is that it is very clear - I know exactly when and why he is displeased with me, so there's no need for me to wonder whether he is secretly annoyed with me.

Just something to think about.

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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/20/2012 6:12:33 AM   
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But I think if he hadn't been angry with me, it wouldn't have been an issue the way it was.

Punishing you when he's angry shows a lack of control on his part.

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How do you not have a punishment dynamic?

I don't. I choose to communicate instead. I talk things through with him, find out why he did what he did and, together, we find ways for it to not happen again. And it may happen again, but we will work on it. I'm not unreasonable. There does come a point though, when if whatever it is keeps happening, that I would tell him goodbye. But, he will know well ahead of time when that will be before it happens.

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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/20/2012 7:05:00 AM   
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I've been with my master for about 10 months now, and he punished me for the first time, and it was horrible. Part of it, I think, was that I didn't think I deserved to be punished. (He didn't like the way I had said something, but he'd never before told me to watch it--I felt like it came out of thing air. I've never disobeyed him, but I want to know what rules are and not be punished for rules that I don't know exist.) But it was more than that.

I felt like when I was being beaten up when I was in school. I was badly bullied, in first grade through the 8th grade. I'm 40--they didn't take bullying seriously back then--even when I had teeth knocked out. I was always told that I was 'fun to be teased' so I should learn not to be, and I would try and be as passive as possible when I was beaten up so it wouldn't be as fun for them. Somehow, when my master, whom I love, went to punish me, it just put me back in that place. I did what he said, while it was happening, but I just disconnected. I tried to pretend I wasn't there. I sang songs to myself in my head and waited for it to be over. I remembered being beaten up in school.

I'm not normally a reluctant submissive, but for weeks after that, I obeyed without craving. I had no interest in sex. I couldn't get in touch with that part of myself that aches with hunger. And that part is absolutely key to our relationship. I think we both wondered if this made sense anymore until we stumbled back into my hunger. We both know, we were lucky to find a way through it.

I don't think he'll punish me again, or if he does, I know it will be very different. I almost broke up with him during that time because I don't feel comfortable giving my consent for that. (I would bet money he thought about breaking up with me because the center of our relationship was just broken.) I trust him enough not to do something like that again. But it has been a large kink in our kinky relationship.

I think he felt really blind-sighted by my reaction. He said that he didn't do anything to me that he hasn't done when he was disciplining me and that he didn't hurt me more than when he'd discipline me. He said I was wet the entire time. He thought I was enjoying it. When it was over, I just cried and cried and cried, hysterically. And he held me, and was there for me. He is a good man. Obviously if I'd known how I'd react, I would have told him. I knew I didn't want to be punished, and that I didn't think it was 'fair,' but I had no idea how badly I'd react either.

I think part of it was that I had tried to tell him what had happened that had led him to punishing me, but I didn't say it right, or he was too frustrated to listen. And when he was punishing me, he told me I wasn't allowed to speak. And it wasn't short. It went on for, I'd guess, about 45 minutes.

I know he wants to be able to punish me again, if I do something wrong. I know he sees it as his right. But I think we both know I'm not capable of accepting punishment like that. I think if I did something wrong in the future, he might hurt me hard (harder than he ever had), but very quickly, so I didn't have time to numb out.

I'm beginning to wonder if I'm even really a submissive, because, frankly, I can see that, as our relationship is, he does have the right to punish me, and I am not able to accept that. In a way, I'm topping from the bottom. When it is 'discipline' I can handle everything he has thrown my way. When we are role-playing, I'm happy to be his naughty school-girl and accept my 'punishment.' But when it was just me, and he was upset with me and hurt me, I just couldn't handle it. At all.

Has anyone had something similar? Does anyone have any advice?

Congrats-you two just learned something important about each other. And you didn't run, and didn't hide, and neither did he.
And that's mammoth.
Look, we all make mistakes, we all have tripwires in our head, we all from time to time (make mistakes in judgment and perceptual interpretation.
The thing is, this doesn't have to be terrible and traumatic. Instead it can be an event that pulls you together, makes you a stronger better couple for having passed through it and emerged on the other side altered by the experience.
So you talk, you communicate, you share what went on inside of you at the time and that you are still processing.And in doing so you build faith, love and trust, not just in the other, but in the we.
And in the end, that's what matters.
Catharsis-it's what you make of it.

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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/20/2012 9:04:29 AM   
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To accept punishment...

My husband has never beaten me out of anger. He did once try to get physical with me, though, in the midst of a disagreement. There has not been a worse time in our relationship. That was nearly it for us. Our relationship was ugly and unstable for months, as in the better part of a year, and we were quarreling constantly.

So how do you accept when your master gets mad at you and says or does something unpleasant? How do you accept when the person you love is...wrong?

You forgive.

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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/20/2012 9:57:20 AM   
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How do you not have a punishment dynamic? I know a lot of people don't have punishment often. (He only punished me once in 10 months.) But isn't there a line that you don't cross over? Or do you just never cross the line? That has always been my goal, to never give reason to need to be punished.
We're adults. When something goes wrong we sit down and talk about it like adults. Honestly, knowing I've disappointed him is worse than anything physical that could be done to me.

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I want to always be his good girl and never disappoint.
We're human, it's going to happen. Rather than setting an impossible goal, it's best to learn from disappointments and move forward keeping a healthy relationship.


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ORIGINAL: AnEquinox

Honestly, it never really occurred to me that a D/s relationship could exist without a punishment element.
Ours has existed for almost 13 years, so yes they do exist and can work.


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What I did that he thought merited punishment was a little complicated. We have a routine that wasn't working for me, and we had talked about it in boring, long ways that weren't at all sexy, but were acceptable to both of us. However, when we went into the routine again I said to him, trying to be sexy, 'you could make me' because I felt that the root of the difficulty we were having was that he wanted me to obey all the time, but wasn't dominating me very often, and I could handle this for a few days in a row, but when it happened that way the majority of the time, it just doesn't work for me. He felt like I was topping from the bottom, which was something I knew he didn't like. However, he had previously told me that I didn't do that and not to worry about it. I would have liked him to stop right then and say "that is topping from the bottom. Don't do it again." He said "I should punish you," but I wasn't clear he was going to actually punish me until 2 days later when he told me not to talk. At the time, I tried to talk about it, but he was very, very clear I needed to accept I'd done something wrong, and didn't want to have a conversation about why it was wrong. However, I took that as a "don't do this again" and I didn't push the issue because I knew what it was and knew I wouldn't try something like that again.


I'd find his behavior as unacceptable. If it had been me, we'd be having a come to Jesus meeting. I think it's overreacting and even with a child or an animal, you tell them "no" and give them a chance to pull their behavior back into line on their own before issuing punishment.

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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/20/2012 12:08:31 PM   
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I disagree with the majority on D/s punishments with no punishment dynamics. ALL relationships have a punishment dynamic, it's just that most of these punishments are unseen and non-physical.

For those of you in a long term D/s relationship that "has no punishment dynamic", sure there is. It's the dissolving of your relationship. If you or your Master ever mess up bad enough, the punishment is you lose the life you have with each other. With most adult things in life, the punishment is losing things. Losing a partner's trust, losing a job, losing the privilege to do certain things...... in some ways I sometimes think corporal punishment regimes are easier to deal with, being clearcut, precise, and pain for the guilt, and then it's over and done with, you know things are ok again after the punishment.

OP, I think you had a bad trip somewhere in the mental component of the event. I think that has more to do with you not being able to accept the idea of being punished than anything that was physically done to you, and should not be the basis of your evaluation on whether or not a corporal punishment dynamic is for you. You'd probably have a similar reaction if the punishment had been something like him deciding not to talk to you for three days.

Talk to him, establish how you can accept when you are doing something wrong and how he can let you know that you're doing wrong. This part is all about communication; but communication doesn't have to be all talking either, so if talking is difficult, then establish a sign. When you go to the dentist they ask you to put up your hand if you're having problems while they're working on your teeth, find something similar to agree on for the times where words fail in the heat of the moment.

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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/20/2012 12:09:44 PM   
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Ok, first like Master said, it's good that you two are working this out and trying to find a new way to define your relationship.

Master and I have an M/s punishment dynamic. If I step over the lines, he punishes me in different ways depending on what I did. But those lines are clearly defined because we've been together for years and we talk about everything under the sun. When we first got together I'd say the first couple of years there were times when I did what he said only to find out it wasn't what he wanted. The order was not clear obviously. He would discipline me and he made sure the orders were very clear from then on in and if I'm not sure, I ask him to be clearer. I'd say this is the stage you two are in. He needs to be more clear.

As for you wanting him to force you because you get bored with just doing as your told....that might be the huge problem for you both. You like to be forced. He wants someone who just obeys. That's the type of relationship Master and I have. Our life is pretty boring if people saw us together lol. We look like any other couple but I simply do as I'm told. I simply obey. It just makes for a smoother life for us both.

It may be that you two are not suitable for each other if you can't just do and obey. I have a feeling this won't be the first time this will come between you both unless you can learn to be the type of sub he desires or he changes his. But you can't make someone change. It just won't work. If all of this is simply just the punishment issue then you both need to talk about what happened and try to find other ways around it. It could be that you just accept non physical punishments or it could be you don't get punished at all if he can do that (I have a feeling he can't). I wish you both the best of luck though and hope you both can come to a resolution.

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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/20/2012 12:16:10 PM   
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For those of you in a long term D/s relationship that "has no punishment dynamic", sure there is. It's the dissolving of your relationship. If you or your Master ever mess up bad enough, the punishment is you lose the life you have with each other.
That's not a D/s thing though. It's a real life relationship thing and I don't know if I'd classify that as straight up punishment.

When I've ended relationships, I've done so for me.....not out of a desire to punish my partner.


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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/20/2012 12:24:06 PM   
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You said it was a couple days later..did you have discussion during those days? You also said that you had accepted the same punishment at other times during play.....Im curious as to weather it upset you because this was a time in which you had no control, it wasnt play..
Have you thought of how you ARE goig to handle it when it comes again? Im sorry that you were bullied, its horrible, but you have to know from his response that you are not being bullied now and if the two of you discuss this issue it may work out to be healing. I wish you all the luck in the world...

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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/20/2012 12:45:25 PM   
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That's not a D/s thing though. It's a real life relationship thing and I don't know if I'd classify that as straight up punishment.

When I've ended relationships, I've done so for me.....not out of a desire to punish my partner.



That's what I said, all relationships have a punishment dynamic built in.

To me, punishment is defined as a regimentalised consequence for undesirable behaviour. Just because you don't mean to maliciously "punish" someone doesn't mean it isn't "punishment", same applies for whether the punishment is in fact good for them or not.

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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/20/2012 2:31:24 PM   
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That's not a D/s thing though. It's a real life relationship thing and I don't know if I'd classify that as straight up punishment.

When I've ended relationships, I've done so for me.....not out of a desire to punish my partner.



That's what I said, all relationships have a punishment dynamic built in.

To me, punishment is defined as a regimentalised consequence for undesirable behaviour. Just because you don't mean to maliciously "punish" someone doesn't mean it isn't "punishment", same applies for whether the punishment is in fact good for them or not.


I think there's a difference between consequences and punishment. Punishment is a deliberate act designed to teach a lesson. Consequences are a by product.




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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/20/2012 2:39:33 PM   
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I suppose this argument goes into how deliberate the act of ending a relationship is to you then.

I would consider a couple drifting apart to be a consequence, and one or the other of the partner up and saying "I'm leaving you" to be a punishment because the latter is a concious course of action. The latter is a passive lesson for one to learn to pick a better partner and the other to learn that certain actions lead to losing the partner.

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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/20/2012 2:47:41 PM   
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I suppose this argument goes into how deliberate the act of ending a relationship is to you then.

I would consider a couple drifting apart to be a consequence, and one or the other of the partner up and saying "I'm leaving you" to be a punishment because the latter is a concious course of action. The latter is a passive lesson for one to learn to pick a better partner and the other to learn that certain actions lead to losing the partner.


Not really. My point is that I don't end the relationship as a deliberate act to teach them a lesson. Punishment is a deliberate act designed to teach a lesson.

The definition of punish is "to inflict a penalty". When I end a relationship it's not inflict a penalty. It's done to benefit me, not to be a punishment for them.

In my view, the consequences are not the same as punishment. We'll just have disagree and move on.



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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/20/2012 4:34:51 PM   
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You also said that you had accepted the same punishment at other times during play.....Im curious as to weather it upset you because this was a time in which you had no control, it wasnt play..
Have you thought of how you ARE goig to handle it when it comes again? Im sorry that you were bullied, its horrible, but you have to know from his response that you are not being bullied now and if the two of you discuss this issue it may work out to be healing. I wish you all the luck in the world...


I don't think it was the not control part. I don't have control a lot with him. But all the rest of the time, if I cry, he kisses away the tears, and this time he was mad. And the crying made it harder for me because I couldn't breathe all that well, which made me more hysterical.

I don't know what I will do if it happens again. We are going to talk about it before we see each other again. The fact is that I'm pretty sure right now, he wouldn't punish me. It was traumatic for us both.

As for the obeying versus being dominated part, we've actually solved that pretty darn well. I don't need a lot, but he knows I need a couple of strong kisses in the morning before I blow him, and we've worked out a phrase so I can ask for that if I'm not getting it too often.

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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/21/2012 7:41:37 AM   
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I don't think it was the not control part. I don't have control a lot with him. But all the rest of the time, if I cry, he kisses away the tears, and this time he was mad. And the crying made it harder for me because I couldn't breathe all that well, which made me more hysterical.


I'm concerned that he was still mad two days later over you being a smart ass and that he took your FIRST punishment to the point where you were hysterical.

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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/21/2012 8:48:41 AM   
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He may be struggling with who HE is....I see Doms on here all the time saying they want to "explore" their submissive side, its possible you may ave triggered im without knowing it.....

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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/21/2012 9:36:42 AM   
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AnEx, I have come back and reread your post probably a dozen times. I don't post much, I think I am still a vanilla status here. I am not a newbie however, I began my journey in the lifestyle 23 yrs ago. I have had two long term relationships the first one was live in that was 10 yrs and one non live in for about 7 and some really short term ones a couple of those where people I met right here on CM but distance has been an issue. You said that perhaps you are not cut out to be submissive and I honed in on that remark. I very seldom share details of my life but, I felt the need to here.


For years, I have claimed to be not a submissive but of a submissive personality. Being involved in this lifestyle has caused me to do a great deal of self reflection and getting to know myself intimately that I doubt would have come to past without being involved. I think the main thing for me is being honest with myself, being honest with how I see myself and not really giving two craps about how others see me and not falling into the propoganda of what is truly submissive and what isn't or how a relationship is supposed to be.


I know I am going to get a great deal of boo's and hisses on this one, but I am a product of an abusive past. Although I denied it for a long time and never once brought my submissive lifestyle into therapy (partly because I was very heavily involved in the lifestyle when I started and I did not want my unkink friendly therapist to tell me I was wrong and partly because at the time I did not want to believe that something 'so beautiful'; my submission; could emerge from such an ugly past) I have come to believe that my past did set me on the path of this lifestyle. Of course, I can't change the past or know how life would have developed without it so maybe I would have had the submissive personality just naturally. But I truly believe that our past can shape us and mold us in to who we become, with that said, your past experiences with bullying could be having an effect on where you are now.

I have not been heavily involved in the lifestyle for a number of years. I still see myself as having the submissive personality and have deliberately chosen Dominant men to date, but so often when I have played I find myself thinking, why am I even here. Even without any have playtime, I often find myself feeling rather trapped with a man who likes a lot of control. I like the control but to me, I like control with in reason. Of course, most of the time what I feel is unreasonable, most men I have met who are Dominant or see themselves as Dominant find it totally reasonable. Even the kinky type sex has lost it's appeal for me over the years, and I have found thinking about it is much preferred to actually engaging in it.


Like I said, distance has been an issue with finding a Dominant man. I am not relocating, there just are not any men on either here or FT close to my area that I would care to even set down and have coffee with. And honestly those guys are probably the ones going to the local munches, not that they have ever held any intrigue for me so I have not used that option. In later years, the choice to date vanilla has been an option although I usually find that it does not last and there is no chemistry.

I am currently in a relationship with a very vanilla man. He was a friend of my neighbor. We chatted many times and he finally asked if he could see me. I gave him my number, and it was a few weeks before he called me. When he did it was merely just spending time together, very casual....watching tv, having a meal together. In fact it was quite sometime before we became physical. I had openly discussed my submissive side...but he is very vanilla and he just is not hot on the idea of exploring it. Actually sex is very vanilla and is a small part of our relationship but when it happens it is very hot and there is weird chemistry going on I have never experienced with any other man. However, it is a very intimate relationship. By intimate I mean, sensual back rubs, (and not just as a method of foreplay) expressive conversation, doing little things for each other that mean a great deal. Like him picking me up every day for work with a huge smile asking me how my day went and really wanting to know. picking up the apartment during the day because he felt that I may not feel like it later, me making his favorite foods or putting something in the grocery cart that I know he might want. Side note, we did decide to live together, partly for ecomonic reasons and partly because I live in a really bad neighborhood (however, I love my apartment, the rent is cheap and the landlord is just FANTASIC!) and it helps having this big intimidating guy sleeping here and lastly because we really enjoy each other and get along so well.

Although this is a very vanilla relationship, I believe my submissive back ground helps it. We never argue, because I have learned to bite my tongue, (not that he causes me to do it often but I can see where another woman might be annoyed by some things), I am very quiet most of the time, if he suggests I wear my hair a certain way I will, I cook, clean, maintain the bills...occasionally he will call me to another room and "Yes Sir?" will fall from my lips but he never bats an eye at it just tells me what he needs to.

On his part there is control but it's not like a D/s type of control. It's almost like a caring type of control, similar to a parental control although he is 9 yrs in my junior. There is no punishment dynamic, no rewards, no discipline, just sort of he respects my well being and says and does things for my benefit and I can choose to listen or not. What happened yesterday is a perfect example.



Normally, our hours clash and we are not home at the same time except at night and early in the morning. But yesterday he was home when I walked the dog. I take the same route everyday. I am a creature of habit. He knows my route well. Anyway, yesterday I had a huge scare. A big guy approached me yelling for me to get back and part of me thought he was speaking to someone else and part of me was thinking, yeah like I am going to listen to you. All of a sudden another dog came running at me. It was not a big dog, it did have a leash but no owner attached to it. My dog is not a fighter and I tried to pick all fifty pounds of her up and in the process got my finger caught in her choke collar. I lost my shoe and this other dog tried to mount my dog before the guy could get him. I am not quite sure if the dog was his and he was worried about my dog hurting that dog or if he was just trying to warn me that there was a loose dog coming. This guy starting yelling at me that he told me to get back and by this time, I am frightened and crying, I told him I did not realize he was actually speaking to me since I had not seen the dog at first. Then the guy retrieves my shoe and asks if I am okay and I take my shoe and sob, "Just take your dog and go away," turn and walk the other direction. I come home finger swelling and worried that I may have hurt my dog with her collar. I am still sobbing and panting out of fear when I come in the door. I relate the story as best I can and get an immediate lecture; how I should have reacted, how the route I take at least that part of it, is not safe...and I silently compose myself and just listen to him gently lecturing me not raising his voice just his concerns. He is checking over the dog for me and admits she seems fine. I never contradict him, even though when he said, that I take that route to 'sight see', I am a bit upset over the remark.

I maintain my silence then get up and continue my housechores. He comes out where I am doing dishes and swats my butt and says, "Let me see your finger." He admits it needs ice and I should cover the ice with a cloth or something. The tells me that he doesn't like where I walk because there are some drug houses there and some of the buildings house recently released prisoners. "They see you taking that route daily and they may follow you home and although the dog looks vicious, she is way to friendly with strangers." I start crying then and say, "I don't sight see, I just walk the dog and only go that way if she hasn't taken a dump yet." He smiles so I ask, "What route do you prefer I take." He lays it out in detail. I know he lectured me because he really cares about me wants me to be safe and he knows that I will do as he says.

Anyway, even though my life is very vanilla, I am very content. And I related all of this to prove my point. In finding myself and knowing what makes me tick, I have found my personal comfort zone. I am not sure if one can learn to accept a punishment, perhaps, you can condition yourself to accept it. I know for me, the thought of it was more exciting than actually doing it and I found myself most of the time resenting it but accepted it simply because it was expected. The resentment however, was not good for me though.

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RE: How do you learn to accept punishment? - 10/21/2012 4:13:45 PM   
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For me, nothing sucks worse than when I have good intentions and am blissfully going along and something I do upsets Him.

It doesn't happen often, but disappointment out of seemingly nowhere just flattens me.
There is always a connection, and it usually happens when I am focusing on something internal and let an important detail go by because I am not thinking of the bigger picture: us as a whole with Him in the lead.
However, it takes me time to mentally adjust from things abruptly seeming or being fine to my screwing up.

The other thing I can address is being bullied.
It sucks.
Minefields suck.

Perhaps you can come up with an alternate "safe word" in case any thing you do together in the future trips a minefield.


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