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Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 2:29:04 PM   
RealExtremeMaso


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Status: offline 		I´m new to this site, but not new to this lifestyle - nearly 18 years experience - but I´ve never met a DOM who is really in this subject! Yes, 24/7 ist stated in every third profile - but most times it´s only a fantasy.... Just playing a hour or two a day - that´s it... :(
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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 2:34:00 PM   
absolutchocolat


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Status: offline 		i'm curious about this too...are there any doms/slaves that can share their experiences with this sort of thing?

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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 2:41:22 PM   
JeffBC


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RealExtremeMaso
I´m new to this site, but not new to this lifestyle - nearly 18 years experience - but I´ve never met a DOM who is really in this subject! Yes, 24/7 ist stated in every third profile - but most times it´s only a fantasy.... Just playing a hour or two a day - that´s it... :(

For the record, some of us would consider ANY form of play as "lightweight". Out of all the ways I do or might own Carol such things could never really be all that significant to me even if I were a sadist. I'm much more interested in ownership than play.

As I read your profile you are basically looking for a 24/7 sexual fantasy. People come here and ask about that now and again and pretty much the answer is "No, it doesn't exist." The relationship you're talking about puts a MASSIVE load on the "master" and leaves the slave off the hook. Most masters that I know of want their slave to serve them not the other way around. As I understand what you're seeking it looks more like a super expensive, super high maintenance sex toy than any actually useful property. To even consider it I'd have to be wealthy enough not only to support you, but to support someone else to take care of you when I was busy elsewhere having my life.

For Carol and I what "24/7" means is that she belongs to me 24/7 and she obeys 24/7 each and every command I give her. It's a lot like saying "She is my wife 24/7". That doesn't mean she spends her entire day cooking and blowing me. Clearly that's not what you mean by 24/7... but you are going to be in the vast, vast minority here.


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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 2:54:03 PM   
crazyml


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Status: offline 		It's going to be difficult to give you a general answer.

All of my long term D/s relationships have been 24/7/365. That isn't to say for a second that my partners spent their whole time in latex, plugged, gagged and collared.

But, there was a constant thread. She was wearing the underwear she was wearing because she knew it was my preference, she'd choose skirts over trousers because she knew it was my preference.

Sure sometimes I'd tell her specifically what to wear but. .. even if I hadn't she'd be acknowledging the power exchange.

So the "intensity" of the control might wax and wane (I wouldn't dream of expecting a Doctor or Lawyer to break into her day to text me for permission to go to the loo - but she'd know to ask if we were out dining together) but the thread is always there.

Don't know if that makes any sense?

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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 4:39:38 PM   
kitkat105


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Status: offline 		24/7 power exchange doesn't have to mean you're chained up in some Dom's basement getting your ass caned every hour. For some of us, it's a little more fluid and involved than that.

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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 4:47:28 PM   
DarkSteven


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quote:

ORIGINAL: kitkat105

24/7 power exchange doesn't have to mean you're chained up in some Dom's basement getting your ass caned every hour. For some of us, it's a little more fluid and involved than that.




My sub serves me by being herself. By conducting herself in a way that I'm proud of. Yeah, she'd love it if she was getting topped 24/7, but let's face it... we both have lives to live.

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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 4:56:37 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		24/7 has nothing to do with play. It's about power exchange.

If he decides we should go get a bagel at Dunkin Donuts, that's 24/7 because he has the right to make the decision. If he decides I should make pancakes, same thing.

It's about power not play. Besides don't you need to sleep sometimes? Shower? Go grocery shopping or do laundry? So how are you going to accomplish any of that if you're chained all the time. Four days of it and you'll start hallucinating, comes with the lack of sleep.

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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 5:46:23 PM   
OsideGirl


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quote:

ORIGINAL: kitkat105

24/7 power exchange doesn't have to mean you're chained up in some Dom's basement getting your ass caned every hour. For some of us, it's a little more fluid and involved than that.


Succinctly put. He is in charge 24/7/365. We are D/s 24/7/365, but we do not engage in BDSM 24/7/365.....it's not even possible.


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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 5:47:48 PM   
Kana


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Status: offline 		I've been 24/7 for some time now. It's real, it's not a myth, and it's awesome

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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 6:05:01 PM   
NoChoiceLeft


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Status: offline 		Pardon the unasked opinion, but life is a very complex thing. What is for some a totally unrealistic fantasy, is for others a quite factula reality. Are there many chateaus full of women in the world who are trained in some private way to serve certain men... no not many, but there are six billion or more people on earth and to think that somewhere there isn't a place much like the Story of O (the first example I could think of, and not the only one) then that would be, I think a bit narrowminded and foolish to rule out. And I can tell you for a fact that there are indeed many who live lives of near complete 'fantasy'. I have a dear friend who spent one of her teen years serving eight hours a day as a pony in a stable where she was entirely willingly used as an animal might be. She loved it and has always relished her time there. Likewise I know a professional prostitute who is legal, in Nevada, license and all who lives her personal dream as a dominatrix for very ugly VERY wealthy men who adore her in completely no sex allowed situations most days and nights of most weeks. It is truly all in who you are, what you seek, and how capable you are that matters. Looks can be bought, manners and skills taught, minds educated, but you must be serious in your pursuit or your results will match your efforts.

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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 6:30:27 PM   
NoChoiceLeft


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Status: offline 		I can spell factual. I swear, I should use the boards more, or at least enough to know how to correct something I missed that was so obvious. Oops.
But to add to the thread a bit more.
CAN you do D/s 24/7 (except when sleeping, and that can be done bound, plugged, caged or whatever as well)... yes, I'd say it is physically possible, and likely that some do. I don't think it would be good for a body to do anything 24/7.
I once spent a wonderful weekend sleeping in the basement 'kitten pile' of house slaves while visiting some friends who run a very strict very poly household. They engage in many hours of play of a BDSM nature every week.
There is a difference between BDSM (the physical parts of it) and D/s which is more widely held in my experience to be a description of the dynamic expressed between individuals emotionally in their relationship. We don't have any solid standard for the limits of terms and their meanings, so it varies depending on who you talk to. Thats why so many people find the Old Guard such a comforting group to interact with, they have protocal and it makes it simple to know what's appropriate and what's intended.

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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 6:38:42 PM   
peppermint


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RealExtremeMaso

but most times it´s only a fantasy.... Just playing a hour or two a day - that´s it... :(


Playing an hour or two a day is reality, not fantasy. People have to work. People have to pay bills. People have to buy groceries and prepare meals. People have to clean their homes and wash clothes. Fantasy is thinking you can live a sexual high 24 hours a day, every day and not have to pay bills, work, cook, dlean, or do laundry.

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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 6:47:20 PM   
MstrPBK


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Status: offline 		Possible but not likely. Strict S&M takes a huge mount of mental energy to keep going. True I want a 24/7 slave(s) who are wiling to be in both the bedroom and workplace. I have learned over the years I am the rare one who wants this, not the general rule.

The door is open for discussion.

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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 7:01:55 PM   
NoChoiceLeft


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Status: offline 		I would point out only that MOST (90-99%) people have to work and pay bills, but there are those who for various reasons actually do not have to do these things. It's not always likely you'll find what you seek, but rarely is it impossible.
It's MOSTLY fantasy for most people. Exceptions happen all the time. I've been one and known many.
24/7 slavery of the involuntary servitude variety, for example, has always existed throughout human history.
HEALTHY D/s is perhaps a different story, but there are as many ways to live and get laid as there are people, more in fact.
I'd say the more important issue is one of actually honestly KNOWING your personal limits and needs.

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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 7:31:48 PM   
JeffBC


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quote:

ORIGINAL: NoChoiceLeft
but there are six billion or more people on earth

The ultimate truth of human existence. If you thought of it then someone, somewhere did also and then did it and probably exceeded it.

That being said, the practical answer remains the same... "You're not likely to find such a situation."


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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 7:57:17 PM   
RemoteUser


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Status: offline 		OP, if you interpret a 24/7 lifestyle arrangement as sexual, then yes, it is quite possible. Even then, though, it requires a top and bottom (Dom/sub, insert configuration here) who both want it, who both like it with each other, and who can sustain it. This is not something you can artificially construct without having it fall apart. If you believe that's what you want, hold out for the top/Dom(me) that matches your needs, and know that it's going to be a while before you find it.

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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/25/2012 8:23:25 PM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		Master and I are 24/7, 365 days of the year for the past 7 years. Master is a sadist but even then we both have busy lives and most of the time we just look and act just normal people in the world. So while he is extreme when he wants to play, I would not call our relationship extreme or strict. He is the one in charge and at the end of the day I just dow what I'm told. I'm not the type that wants to struggle or argue with their Dom. I find that exhaustive. Good luck to you.


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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/26/2012 12:13:00 AM   
RealExtremeMaso


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Status: offline 		Thanks for the many statements on my subject.

To make it clear: Yes I know, that my search sounds like fantasy, but it´s more and i know it. It´s obvious that real 24/7/365 enslavement as i think about it, will need much more fantasy and engagement from a DOM than the most 24/7-relationships. But I don´t want to believe that´s impossible....
It´s out of discussion, that a slave should make the DOMs life easier ore more comfortable - therefore cooking, cleaning, etc.... are normal duties to me, but even this can be done in a more SM-like way... I need more - no freedom at all, kept caged or chained, in almost constant pain - why not? It doesn´t mean, that slave requires DOMs time 24 hours a day - i think it´s more a question of DOMs fantasy....

Real enslavement has nothing to do with love for me!!!

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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/26/2012 2:10:34 AM   
Mezrem


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Status: offline 		So despite what people have said here you want to keep playing the cat that is chasing the laser across the floor. Well find fun with that.

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RE: Real, strict 24/7/365 - an Illusion? - 10/26/2012 2:30:56 AM   
RealExtremeMaso


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Status: offline 		Maybe I'm like a cat chasing a laserpoint - but I don't believe that. I have been into BDSM half of my life now - and I have been owned in a 24/7 relationship like described above - but I feel that there has to be more...

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