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Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 10:01:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		For all those who wonder about or support what would happen if Romney won.

Now, understanding his ability to squirm in and out of issues, what policies has he stated that are or could be realistic.

Could he really appeal Obamacare?

Yes, but unbelievably difficult to do, can he do it?
Possible?
Remotely Possible?
Are you fucking kidding me?

Labeling China a currency manipulator, does it have any real effects? Knowing that the law has such a provision already, and that negotiations on currency have been going for a long time, does it have any effect?
Does it matter?
Is it important?
Do you care?

Increasing the military budget by 2 Trillion dollars and cutting the budget to a balanced position?
Possible?
Not Possible?
Effects?

Balancing the budget while continuing and increasing tax cuts with increased expenditures on the military?
Possible?
Remotely possible?
Are you fucking kidding me?

Giving the burdens of health care to the states? Can states handle the expense?
Possible?
Remotely Possible?
Are you fucking kidding me?



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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 10:04:04 AM   
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Are you fucking kidding me?

Labeling China a currency manipulator, does it have any real effects? Knowing that the law has such a provision already, and that negotiations on currency have been going for a long time, does it have any effect?
Nope, without sanctions nothing matters, you aint hurting their feelings.

Increasing the military budget by 2 Trillion dollars and cutting the budget to a balanced position?
Hes fucking stupid, and the math wont work.

Balancing the budget while continuing and increasing tax cuts with increased expenditures on the military?
Are you fucking kidding me?

Giving the burdens of health care to the states? Can states handle the expense?
Are you fucking kidding me?

Think I got my views on them all.

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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 10:08:45 AM   
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The label itself doesn't mean shit without sanctions, we'll just have to see how tough he is on China.

He's not INCREASING military spending, despite Obama's constant lie.

Again you're basing this question on Obama's lies.

That will be up to the states to decide, but I doubt states like Illinois and California can afford them.

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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 10:12:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		He won't be able to repeal Obamacare in the first 2 years but what he can do is work on a new health care plan with the GOP, then once they have it, they can then put the democrats up on the chopping block for the next election if they don't repeal it.

It won't do any good to make it an issue though unless they have a new plan ready to go. Btw, Romney has taken the lead in some polls and closed the gender gap. It's almost a done deal now because there are more people that desperately want him out, than desperately want him in.

It's looking more & more like people want jobs rather than free birth control. They know this administration is anti business and anti corporations. If you want to create jobs in this country therre should be no business or corporate taxes, & only environmental regulations. You should be able to just write a check to your employees and let them pay their own taxes & healthcare. No need to even hire an accountant.

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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 10:12:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		4% of GDP in defese spending....
Not exactly an Obama lie..."Travis Sharp, a defense analyst at the Center for a New American Security in Washington, in a projection for the CNNMoney website was among the first to estimate that it may cost an additional $2 trillion to maintain defense spending at 4 percent as Romney pledged. While Republicans have said the center has links to Democrats, the Heritage Foundation, a Washington-based policy group often cited by Republicans, has agreed with the $2 trillion figure.

Seems the math is what it is rob!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-22/romney-wouldn-t-meet-defense-spending-pledge-for-years.html

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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 10:16:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Cucky, you have obviously never been self employed....Individuals who do not have witholding are considered self-employed and not only pay the regular income taxes, but both sides of payroll and social security taxes, and a self employment tax. Are you saying that type of reform will take place under Romney?....Or are you just dreaming what you would wish to see happen?

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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 10:16:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can't believe you said the states can't handle the burden of healthcare. Isn't that how we got $16 trillion in debt, by making the federal government pay for everything instead of the states paying for their own roads, infrastructure, national defense, social programs.

There's only one way to straighten this mess out, and that is to begin to gradually reduce the size of the federal government, and force the states to live within their means. The same as what families have to do if they don't want to end up bankrupt.

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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 10:20:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Where would the states get the money cuck?...Would you be willing to pay higher state taxes to see that it is possible? What about states with balanced budget laws, if they are unable to balance it, are you willing to forego your own Medicare when the time comes?

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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 10:48:41 AM   
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There's only one way to straighten this mess out, and that is to begin to gradually reduce the size of the federal government, and force the states to live within their means. The same as what families have to do if they don't want to end up bankrupt.

Who increased the number of federal government employees and who decreased it?

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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 11:21:28 AM   
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Where would the states get the money cuck?...


LMFAO...

That's the point. Live within one's means or go bankrupt. You can't have it all. The states can only afford what the people wish to fund. Now the federal government can afford to the extent that deficit spending will allow... all the way to the poor house.




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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 11:25:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Tell me Yachtie, what is it you are willing to give up yourself to make that possible?

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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 11:25:42 AM   
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It would help our debt, we pay in more than we get out. Some of us states would be just fine with that.

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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 11:54:23 AM   
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Tell me Yachtie, what is it you are willing to give up yourself to make that possible?



It has zero to do with what I am willing to give up (but I'll answer you further down). It has everything to do with what can be afforded and those reductions to get to that affordability. One of the last estimates I saw was a reduction of ~50% of total federal expenditures (across the board) to achieve that.

Now, lets assume for yuks that 50% is correct. How much, as a nation, are we willing to cut defense? Medicare? Education? etc... and why? That conversation, as a nation, we have not had. The current financial paradigm is not sustainable.

Lets reduce it closer to home. I.e., A family of four now spends well above its means; across the board - food, housing, education, entertainment, clothing, etc.
That family must reduce expenditures by 50%. Choose. That's not easy, especially when one has become accustomed. But either do it or economics will do it for you. One is ultimately less painful than the other as one you get to actually choose. The other you don't.

What am I willing to give up? Put it this way, I'll keep defense.



The simple fact, as demonstrated by your question "willing to give up", shows your inability to accept reality.

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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 12:05:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will give up defense and keep the rest.   Nobody would mount a hostile takeover of this country, since we have swallowed this poison pill of a debt load.

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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 12:06:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		No the question is based in reality, to achieve that which you propose, there must be sacrifice, do you not agree?

If there is to be sacrifice, should it not be shared?

If it is a shared sacrifice, are you willing to forego Medicare? Social Security? a portion of either? Higher taxes?

Perhaps your reality is skewed to such a degree that you don't understand what has to take place in order to achieve your stated goal?

The average family in reducing their own expenditures will sacrifice our consumer driven economy, and I have yet to see anything that leads me to believe that a micro-economic approach will satisfy a macro-ecomonic issue...please share your information.

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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 12:07:07 PM   
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This world-class cock-sucker gets a cabinet appointment...

Sununu backs off race statement about Powell

Let`s see.............

Minister of Racial Relations or Dept of Douche-bags.....?

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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 12:09:02 PM   
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I will give up defense and keep the rest.   Nobody would mount a hostile takeover of this country, since we have swallowed this poison pill of a debt load.



Defense is not enough to achieve affordability. Choose more.

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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 12:14:22 PM   
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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 12:51:39 PM   
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The average family in reducing their own expenditures will sacrifice our consumer driven economy


So in order to not sacrifice our consumer driven economy the average family must continue to spend above it's reduced means? Neat trick.
How's the average family do that? Where's the money going to come from?

If the economy is not consumer driven, what else could drive it? Government consumption? Would that work? How would that be paid for?

















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RE: Let's make an assumption...Romney wins - 10/26/2012 12:58:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SilverMark
The average family in reducing their own expenditures will sacrifice our consumer driven economy


So in order to not sacrifice our consumer driven economy the average family must continue to spend above it's reduced means? Neat trick.
How's the average family do that? Where's the money going to come from?

If the economy is not consumer driven, what else could drive it? Government consumption? Would that work? How would that be paid for?



Dad is gonna go down to the basement and use his Obamajet printer to print more money for the family... Easy peasy

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