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RE: So I came out yesterday.... - 10/30/2012 10:20:42 PM   
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IMHO telling family (or anyone else for that matter) your gay IS TELLING your sex life. Who's pitching, who's catching, who's whipping, who's tied up its all different sprinkles in this same kinky sundae we call life. YMMV

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RE: So I came out yesterday.... - 11/1/2012 4:41:32 PM   
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I think you're lucky to have had this conversation.



Not a "conversation," per se. It was never necessary, as my fam already knew I was a little "outré." I would never discuss something so very private as my sex life, with them. I wouldn't even introduce one of my boys as "one of my boys." It wouldn't be called for and it wouldn't be necessary. From the head of the department of redundancy department head.

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My brother is still trying to convince the family his "roommate" of over 10 years is straight too. This is the same "roommate" that has been his +1 at weddings, funerals & family dinners all this time.


Oh, how sad for your brother and his partner.

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My "proclivities" were discussed as "hey in my will there is a description of a bag you need to make sure disappears without mom looking inside" response "if its drugs I'm using your stash"...um yeah have fun smoking my fluffy bunny flogger!


Now, won't they be surprised?


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RE: So I came out yesterday.... - 11/1/2012 6:13:14 PM   
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Lmao @ queenrah. My family will be surpised by just about everything when I die. I'm just hoping that some of the friends I have now are around for the show! I've written laws, gotten civic awards no one knows about & have done things in animal welfare that even people with me went "did you just____"? Kinky I think is one of the few things my mom probably wouldn't be shocked about considering she's been trying to get me to come out as a lesbian for years. I just tell her I like snack crackers, but I AM NOT a crack snacker!!! Most amusing she swears bro is straight "because he dated girls in high school"...umm he's now 30!!!

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RE: So I came out yesterday.... - 11/1/2012 6:23:17 PM   
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I've never "came out" to anyone but i have a friend who likes to say things about her sex life for shock value. Sometimes i just want to say something about drinking piss from the fountain or whips, canes and floggers. I never do but i do chuckle inside :)

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RE: So I came out yesterday.... - 11/1/2012 6:41:26 PM   
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In my case specifically, it was on about the same level as him admitting to me he's gay - very, very strong matriarchs, and it completely baffles him that I have zero interest in super domineering women. The sex life stuff is irrelevant in our case, but admitting to being a sadist is as close to a definitive, unswaying point as I can make on the subject. I don't like "mousy" women, I like "submissive" women, and that's what we've been working through these last few days. It's not the same as saying something to parents, because unlike being gay man + woman means its behind closed doors and so I don't have the need.

Like I wrote previously - he's since taken me to plenty of gay clubs, and I doubt I'd ever want to take him to a fetish party, but it's nice to know I could if I wanted without wondering how he'd take it.

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RE: So I came out yesterday.... - 11/5/2012 5:50:42 PM   
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I never had to tell anyone about my lifestyle since my ex wife made sure everyone we knew I was a freak when she left . The friends that asked I told the truth to and the others I just dropped because I don't want prudes in my life . I was more popular than ever once she told people we did . I got to show off my toys and explain things to people and that brought them out about things they liked but never told anyone . Only one marriage was broken up by all this when she told her husband he was not dark enough for her and left him . The only person I had a problem from was my best friend who wanted me to teach him to be a Dom . ????? Can you teach that ? Happy tales all.

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RE: So I came out yesterday.... - 11/5/2012 6:02:22 PM   
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quote:

best friend want me to teach him

I would have said hell yeah! Or is it just male subs that dream of being the target of more than one dominant?

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RE: So I came out yesterday.... - 11/5/2012 9:11:11 PM   
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My brother and I have always had deep, philosophical discussions about a broad range of topics, and especially our various relationships. He's gay. He wouldn't admit to himself, much less anyone else, for a very long time. I was mad for a while, simply because I viewed it as an utter lack of faith in me. Selfish, I know. However, we have been talking about my relationship woes and I realized I've been doing the same to him.

Yesterday at dinner I spilt the beans, so to speak. It felt great. Now, I've been in various D/s-based relationships since college, but it was mostly an offshoot of (back then) the industrial music scene lifestyle and (more recently) me falling into a string of mentoring-type relationships with much younger artist women. At his insistence actually, last year I put together a list of what I wanted and I wound up here and meeting people and really running with it and fully exploring what I want. I grew up in a very feminism-powered household, and so it was previously bad enough that I enjoyed bossing girlfriends around, but it was a big jump to admit that I liked inflicting pain, too.

I confessed all of it. My brother has disliked most of the girlfriends I've had because they would "defer to [me] too often". I could see the tumblers in his brain line up and got a verbal "ooooh!". So we discussed old girlfriends and I told him funny stories and he's been great about it all.

I'm curious about other's stories about "coming out" to friends and family.



Personally, I don't get the whole need to "come out." I see no need to tell family or friends about the sexual activities I like. I understand a gay person coming out more because if you are in a gay relationship and keep it hidden, that really affects how you can conduct yourself around others. However, you can have a heterosexual BDSM relationship and maintain that tone in public without calling attention to the sexual aspects. Plenty of people in vanilla relationships have a domineering partner. And, frankly, no matter what kind of relationship you're in, most people don't want you to parade your sexuality in their face.

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RE: So I came out yesterday.... - 11/5/2012 10:51:27 PM   
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I'm different than most in that my close friends and family know that I form relationships along D/s lines, and most know I engage in some forms of BDSM. I don't give long, detailed, storytime-with-Sade descriptions, as most are familiar enough to know what S&M means and don't ask further.

The why largely comes down to not making my loved ones worry about me being in an abusive relationship. My mother especially was concerned I was with guys who were too controlling, and I was worried that she'd worry about physical abuse if random bruises started showing up, I explained in so many words "Yes, he is a very controlling boyfriend, and I like that; I sought that out. Yes we're into the rough side of things, so if I come home with a bruise here or there, it was something I consented to. I know the signs of abuse and I know when to leave."

Yes, I could say "butt out, my private life, none of your business," but I really didn't want to make excuses for my boyfriends or make a habit of "falling into doors". So far, everyone in my life has been totally understanding and accepting.

Times change. It will depend on your relationship with your family, but more and more I feel people are more comfortable being "out" with their type of relationship, whatever it is.

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RE: So I came out yesterday.... - 11/6/2012 12:19:26 AM   
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Personally, I don't get the whole need to "come out." I see no need to tell family or friends about the sexual activities I like. I understand a gay person coming out more because if you are in a gay relationship and keep it hidden, that really affects how you can conduct yourself around others. However, you can have a heterosexual BDSM relationship and maintain that tone in public without calling attention to the sexual aspects. Plenty of people in vanilla relationships have a domineering partner. And, frankly, no matter what kind of relationship you're in, most people don't want you to parade your sexuality in their face.


I saw a need because my relationship cannot be passed off as "traditional, male wears the pants in the family". My male lover is my wife.

It drove my mother crazy when we ate at a buffet together and he was attentive, pulling out my chair, putting my coat and purse into the empty seat, getting up to get the dessert I wanted, and getting up to refill my soda. She kept frowning, almost kicking me under the table, and found several moments to TELL ME that I should be the one waiting on HIM. If I had been male and bo female, she would have been saying that things are as they should be. Instead...

1) I have been given lectures on multiple occasions about being a good wife-type, that I will lose him if I don't stop trying to wear the pants in the family.

2) bo has been cornered by my mother when I'm not present...she pleaded with him not to leave me, in spite of my bossy ways. bo had to tell her that he likes my "bossing" him around, and that this relationship is until "death do us part".

3) bo has been given lectures by my mother about his needing to take charge and "wear the pants" in the family.

(No need to stop laughing, y'all.)

Some of us NEED to come out to help put an end to all the misunderstandings and lectures. I told my mother that I see nothing wrong with a man taking on the role of wife...and to get used to his being my "honey, do..."

Yes, I have a "heterosexual BDSM relationship and maintain that tone in public without calling attention to the sexual aspects" thing going on. I'm an adult; I can separate D/s (or Master/slave) from sadism/masochism and from sexual acts. However, I do own him 24/7. The dynamic of our relationship is different from the norm, and yes, people notice...and sometimes comment or ask questions. My answer to them is usually limited to, "Yep, he's my wife." Then I laugh and say that every working woman needs to have one, especially if she's got kids. I then get asked if he does dishes, laundry, mows the lawn, etc., and I grin and say yessss. Some ask if he has a brother or cousin available.

(Psst...how can you tell if a man in WV is married? Answer...his wife is outside mowing the lawn.)

"Plenty of people in vanilla relationships have a domineering partner." I learned the difference between being domineering and Dominant during my first year in the lifestyle. Too bad that many vanillas spend their entire lifetime learning the difference...and some never do.

Quite frankly, about parading my sexuality in front of others... If I have to see shitloads of male buttcracks, usually with loose pants that are defying the laws of physics by being 3/4 down a guy's arse, and hear all their fuck, fuck, fuckety fuck talk, as well as mother f*cker and hearing blow by blow details of the blowjob or fuck they got last night...aargh! There is no way to ride on a city bus or walk through Walmart, etc., without getting an earful and eye full. Since all this chit is tolerated in my town they can damned well bite the bullet when they see bo opening doors for me, carrying packages, fetching and putting away things, etc., and treating me with care and respect.

Oh, and mowing my lawn too.

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RE: So I came out yesterday.... - 11/6/2012 1:06:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: seekingreality
Personally, I don't get the whole need to "come out." I see no need to tell family or friends about the sexual activities I like. I understand a gay person coming out more because if you are in a gay relationship and keep it hidden, that really affects how you can conduct yourself around others. However, you can have a heterosexual BDSM relationship and maintain that tone in public without calling attention to the sexual aspects. Plenty of people in vanilla relationships have a domineering partner. And, frankly, no matter what kind of relationship you're in, most people don't want you to parade your sexuality in their face.


It seems like you're focusing on the sexual aspects primarily and while you mention: "Plenty of people in vanilla relationships have a domineering partner.", I reject that.

I think there's a huge difference between "dominant" and "domineering". Now, I am willing to accept that you might have just been typing along and put the latter word in, just as a loose descriptor but, if you meant to use that word, I see an issue.

When I see a couple where one is domineering, it always strikes me as a form of "abuse" (I used quotations because I'm sort of using that word loosely). A domineering person is one who forces their will upon others and, quite frankly, it's someone I wouldn't want to be around.

When I see a couple where one partner is obviously submissive, particularly if that partner is a female, I have noticed a tendency of others (usually "civillian" females) to look down their noses at that female. In an effort to not have people feel that way about a submissive partner, I might have a very short discussion about the kind of dynamics that are in play in my relationship. I've done it many times. It's also a blurb I use on my profile on non-lifestyle sites:

"In all relationships we either lead or follow. It is how a human society works. I believe that in romantic relationships, when compromise just can't be achieved, one of the partners has to be the 'ultimate authority'; someone has to 'drive the bus'. Just call me: 'Ralph Kramden'"

I have had that discussion with many of my friends (especially a couple of the female variety that are constantly trying to play match maker with me).



Peace and comfort,



Michael


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RE: So I came out yesterday.... - 11/8/2012 7:59:08 PM   
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I have been thinking about this very sort of thing a lot over the past few days -- I'm pretty new to embracing the fact that I am a born submissive -- and I think telling people that doesn't necessarily mean I'm telling them about my sex life. I'm submissive in all aspects of my life; I think "coming out" would be more about helping the people around me understand my lifestyle, rather than divulging private sex-life information.

That being said, most of my friends know about my tendencies, but my family will never know. They are very "June and Ward" as someone else here called theirs, and my sister is equally "wholesome", so unfortunately, I will never be able to share this very important aspect of my life with them.

OP, I am glad that you have the relationship you do with your brother, and the ability to speak openly! Cherish it :)

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