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So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 2:44:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		People coming around looking for handouts. You'd think there's be more conflicts making the papers given their insistence in not promoting that behaviour.

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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 3:27:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		There`s also the overlap between Republican and fundegelicals to consider.

You know the ones. They think the devil & demons are real.

Some of èm don`t want to rip their own kids off of the fun, so they gather in a church parking lot and the kids go from car to car to get their candy. So, like taking in each others`laundry, presumably it`s a wash (hah!) in terms of what they give out and what their kid brings in.

Some give out bible tracts instead of candy to kids at the door.

I heard last year of some group trying to get something called Jesusween off the ground. No, I`m not kidding.

In the Repub but not necessarily Relig contingent...
Maybe they`d figure out how to game the system. Send their kids out to collect from others, but not be home themselves & have to shell out.

That`s all I got. Hopefully it`ll help break the ice on the thread & get others posting. Even if only to rant at me.

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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 4:21:16 AM   
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People coming around looking for handouts. You'd think there's be more conflicts making the papers given their insistence in not promoting that behaviour.


If you're trying to imply that people with a sense of entitlement living off the taxpayer and trick-or-treaters are the same.... FAIL!

If a people don't want to give out candy, they don't have to. No one is forcing them to do so. Not so regarding Government largesse.



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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 4:33:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		True, Desi. It`s not `the same thing`. But it has some similarities. And a comparison is...sorta funny.

No, they don`t `have to` give out candy. But there`s the implicit threat of TPing their trees, soaping their windows, etc. if they don`t. Or if they`re grouches or something. Maybe that`s not common. Maybe doesn`t happen any more at all. But it is the `trick`part of `trick or treat`.

Similar to, but smaller than, imprisonment for not paying your taxes. Like candy is similar to, but smaller than, your tax dollars.

= = =

Or how about kids feeling èntitled`to the candy. They dress up. They knock & say trick or treat. They get candy. They expect it. The system offers it, they hold out their goodie bags and voila.

Similar to, but smaller than.... welfare, entitlement programs, etc

Lighten up dude.

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ETA: Thought of a more serious ramification. Kids grow up programmed to expect Ì dress up and strangers give me candy`. It`s built in to the system.

Then (SOME) grow up and it`s Ì fill out this form and strangers (the gov`t) give me money`

PLEASE NOTE: I am not against all social programs. Neither do I support all social programs. I`ve seen people who need it, temporarily or permanently. But I`ve also seen what I see as abuse of the systems in place.

Some big Jesuit once said, more or less, give me the child (til he`s 9 maybe)`. I`ll give you (ie control) the man`. We are, often and largely (but thank goodness not always & exclusively), the product of our early conditioning.

Religion is early conditioning. Halloween is early conditioning.

Maybe not such a frivolous example after all.
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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 4:45:08 AM   
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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 4:53:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well they are creating jobs by going around asking for candy handouts. Think how many jobs trick or treating saves...Those little goblins and witches are job creators...... people not handing out candy are job killers

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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 5:59:21 AM   
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True, Desi. It`s not `the same thing`. But it has some similarities. And a comparison is...sorta funny.
No, they don`t `have to` give out candy. But there`s the implicit threat of TPing their trees, soaping their windows, etc. if they don`t. Or if they`re grouches or something. Maybe that`s not common. Maybe doesn`t happen any more at all. But it is the `trick`part of `trick or treat`.
Similar to, but smaller than, imprisonment for not paying your taxes. Like candy is similar to, but smaller than, your tax dollars.
= = =
Or how about kids feeling èntitled`to the candy. They dress up. They knock & say trick or treat. They get candy. They expect it. The system offers it, they hold out their goodie bags and voila.
Similar to, but smaller than.... welfare, entitlement programs, etc
Lighten up dude.


But, again, if you choose to not participate, they don't even come to your door. And, when I was a kid (I really hate being able to say that), TP-ing and soaping were considered minor forms of vandalism. Sad, but true.

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ETA: Thought of a more serious ramification. Kids grow up programmed to expect Ì dress up and strangers give me candy`. It`s built in to the system.
Then (SOME) grow up and it`s Ì fill out this form and strangers (the gov`t) give me money`


I really hope that was sarcasm. If so, I laugh. If not, facepalm. lol

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PLEASE NOTE: I am not against all social programs. Neither do I support all social programs. I`ve seen people who need it, temporarily or permanently. But I`ve also seen what I see as abuse of the systems in place.
Some big Jesuit once said, more or less, give me the child (til he`s 9 maybe)`. I`ll give you (ie control) the man`. We are, often and largely (but thank goodness not always & exclusively), the product of our early conditioning.
Religion is early conditioning. Halloween is early conditioning.
Maybe not such a frivolous example after all.


Regardless of how some will treat me, or allege, I am not against all social programs, either. I recognize that there are people who need it, too.

It's still a frivolous example, though. It's akin to blaming cartoon or video game violence on violent crime.

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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 6:03:56 AM   
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True, Desi. It`s not `the same thing`. But it has some similarities. And a comparison is...sorta funny.


Given who's making it, yup



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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 6:06:52 AM   
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It's still a frivolous example, though. It's akin to blaming cartoon or video game violence on violent crime.

Don't you mean "for" not "on"?
And you've been getting that one for forty years now, in any case. Blaming the media has long been a popular tactic for idiots who're incapable of taking any responsibility for their actions to fall back on. Just look at all of the fuss over GTA, Assassin 2 or whatever...

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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 6:20:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why don't Jehova's Witnesses celebrate Halloween?

They don't like strange people knocking at their door.

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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 6:26:06 AM   
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It's still a frivolous example, though. It's akin to blaming cartoon or video game violence on violent crime.

Don't you mean "for" not "on"?
And you've been getting that one for forty years now, in any case. Blaming the media has long been a popular tactic for idiots who're incapable of taking any responsibility for their actions to fall back on. Just look at all of the fuss over GTA, Assassin 2 or whatever...


Yes, I did mean "for." And, yes, I know how long they've been bitchin' about violence on TV or in video games. And, as anecdotal evidence should show, Bugs Bunny cartoons, Tom & Jerry cartoons, etc. were incredibly violent. Yet, the vast majority of us aren't blood-thirsty (fetishes involving blood not included) violents.

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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 6:33:55 AM   
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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 6:34:13 AM   
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Why don't Jehova's Witnesses celebrate Halloween?

They don't like strange people knocking at their door.



Thanks Hill That actually made me laugh out loud.

I don`t use TLA`s, though (Three Letter Acronyms)

And a good laugh...is a good thing.

Cheers!

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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 6:52:44 AM   
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ETA: Thought of a more serious ramification. Kids grow up programmed to expect Ì dress up and strangers give me candy`. It`s built in to the system.
Then (SOME) grow up and it`s Ì fill out this form and strangers (the gov`t) give me money`


I really hope that was sarcasm. If so, I laugh. If not, facepalm. lol

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PLEASE NOTE: I am not against all social programs. Neither do I support all social programs.
...
We are, often and largely (but thank goodness not always & exclusively), the product of our early conditioning.
Religion is early conditioning. Halloween is early conditioning.
Maybe not such a frivolous example after all.


Regardless of how some will treat me, or allege, I am not against all social programs, either. I recognize that there are people who need it, too.

It's still a frivolous example, though. It's akin to blaming cartoon or video game violence on violent crime.


I was pointing out the grain of truth in the satirical example.

The video game & cartoon violence thing is an old chestnut. Maintained by one group. Derided by the other. But perhaps still has its own grain of truth.

After all, our society is evolving. Children are sexualized earlier. Certainly by the music industry. (Six year olds lip syncing & gyrating to very sexual lyrics by the PopSexDiva of the day) By TV. By those beauty pageants for 8 year olds. By high school cheerleading squads who, needing to compete, get sluttier.

etc etc.

Some of these are symptoms. Some may be causes. Heck, hormones in our meat & milk are apparently contributing to earlier onset of puberty.

We are becoming desensitized to violence. I think TV & movies are more to blame than cartoons. In cartoons, it`s frying pans, anvils and (obviously fake) bombs.

TV News. Now we get the worst of everything everywhere, delivered directly to our 52`flatscreens. That`s a factor. It used to be contained inside a little box. With TV`s today, it`s lifesize.

The internet. A more powerful development by far than the printing press. But it has its price.

Heck, I`m a funny happy guy. And I`m even bringing mySELF down here.

This is way too long already. I just felt I should reply. And here I am...still typing. *rolls eyes*


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ETA: Of COURSE it was a frivolous example. I was (then, at least) sticking with the OP`s frivolous frickin question.

But Gulliver`s Travels was a very funny book. And vicious social satire. Maybe mine was a grain of truth...in a cream pie.

Figure THAT one out. I`m going to bed.








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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 7:30:54 AM   
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The video game & cartoon violence thing is an old chestnut. Maintained by one group. Derided by the other. But perhaps still has its own grain of truth.

Good luck finding a grain of truth in that one. Nobody's ever managed to find a hint of evidence for it, and that isn't from lack of trying.
(And goodnight.)

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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 8:39:27 AM   
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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 11:04:58 AM   
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Obama has an easy theme for a Halloween party. Since he is an asshole, all he has to do is stick out his tongue and go as a hemorrhoid!

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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 11:41:12 AM   
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Since he is an asshole, all he has to do is stick out his tongue and go as a hemorrhoid!


So what's your point? That you feel akin? Jealous he stole your identity? What's your issue?

Getting nastier as the end draws near, aren't ya?

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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 12:03:57 PM   
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Naw, not being nasty as the end nears. Being older, I've learned to spot an asshole pretty much from the start.

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RE: So, how do Republicans deal with Halloween? - 10/31/2012 12:06:51 PM   
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