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Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 9:08:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hello. Been in the scene a long time. Have had Domme gf's and seen pro's. I am currently in a casual friends with benefits situation but I don't feel like I can tell her all my submissive desires. She is quite simply too chatty about stuff.
So, the question--I am wondering if I should ask my female neighbor if she would like to have me as a houseboy/slave?
The background. We have lived across from each other in an apt. for about 7 years. Much of that has been adversarial. She tends to be loud, inconsiderate, she has 2 cats (or more) that soil everywhere--we are in a pet-free building. She has a pile of crap in our covered parking area that makes it look like a flood came thru. We have had more than a couple arguments. She is older and I am not attracted to her on a physical level.
About a year ago on my bday I got shitfaced. I literally don't remember how I got home. I woke up in bed, that's all I know. Turns out a friend had driven me home. So the next day I hear a knock on the door and it's my neighbor. She says we need to talk about what happened last night. I was like, well, what happened?
This is the story she related to me.
After I got home, apparently my friend left. She said she heard me stumbling up the stairs and then heard a lot of commotion. I apparently left my door open and had taken my clothes off (which I do when I get home) and was walking around nude in my apt. Her door is directly across from mine and she had opened it to see what the noise was. When I saw her I came over to her and basically threw myself at the floor, wrapped myself around her feet/legs (while nude) and was asking to kiss her feet, general groveling. She said she eventually got me to stand up and said at that point she could smell the alcohol. She walked me back to my apt. and sent me in. She seemed unaffected by the whole thing. She said I was "docile" and not threatening in any way. Just that I was asking to stay, and trying to kiss her feet.
I of course was horrified at the time. Up until then we had not had a good relationship and the thought of humiliating myelf in front of this bitch was excruciating! But now I am finding myself fantasizing about it more and more. Mostly because to be submissive to her would really be "submissive." I'm not physically attracted to her and she is overall not a pleasant person. And it frightens and excites me to no end to think of the power I would be giving this person I don't really even like. I am sure she would take advantage of me. We of course see each other in passing and a couple jokes have been made but that is it. At first the thoughts were totally just fantasies and afterwards I would think I'm freaking crazy for even entertaining them. But now as I think about it I don't know if I am just de-sensitized to the idea or what but I'm really open to it. Like now I am trying to think of reasons why I should not tell her than why I should. Then I start thinking about letting her take humiliating pics of me so she has them. That busts a nut for me every time!
I am of course worried about it getting out but the bday thing happened about a year ago and I have not heard anyting about that from anyone.
I have been thinking about how to tell her and I would approach it in a way that stresses how it would help her. Things that I would do for her. And that I am simply submissive and she would not have to do anything except tell me what she wants me to do. I would simply ask that if we do this then we keep it between the two of us.
I know there is some risk involved, but she seems to be open-minded (kind of a granola/hippie-ish).
So, any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 9:18:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm thinking this would open a large can of drama that your entire building would eventually suffer for! First rule of kink in my world is don't shit where you sleep...neighbors, bosses & co-workers are a no-no for play even if you "know about" each other. While there is the remote possibilty she'd not slam a door in your face, its more likely that she treated you like what you were...an out of his mind naked drunk in her apartment. Frankly you should be happy she sent you home & made fun of you instead of calling the cops!

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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 9:19:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		No, you shouldn't. This is just a bad idea for many reasons. Starting with she lives in your building and is across the hall from you. If you offend her, she can make your home life a living hell and force you out of where you live.

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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 9:30:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow. That was fast. Two quick "No's." Ok... *pouts*
But thanks for the reality check. :)

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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 9:32:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Pouting is not attractive on any adult.

And I agree with the previous posts. Keep your pie hole shut.

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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 9:41:08 AM   
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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 10:11:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Pouting is not attractive on any adult.

And I agree with the previous posts. Keep your pie hole shut.



Well, was really only asking about the neighbor. I guess any other input I will file under--who gives a fuck what you think.

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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 10:13:45 AM   
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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 10:20:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm thinking you have a really stupid idea and you should lose said idea as quickly as possible.

You dodged a bullet when you got drunk before because she didn't call the cops. Personally, if I had a neighbor that I disagreed with that strongly and he or she showed up sloppy drunk and naked, I'd call the cops and cackle like the Wicked Witch of the West as they were hauled off in the cruiser. Then, I'd post the video on youtube. (What can I say, I'm a sadistic fuck sometimes).

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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 10:39:21 AM   
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Don't forget to keep us updated. Maybe start a thread in 'Positive Experiences'.



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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 11:07:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I often wonder if she did take any pics or vids. But it was mostly the rest of the apt. complex that did not like her. She does not have a probl with us because we are considerate, clean etc. We are not the ones letting their animals run around crapping on everyone else's patios, etc. But yes. I'm starting to re-think this...

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I'm thinking you have a really stupid idea and you should lose said idea as quickly as possible.

You dodged a bullet when you got drunk before because she didn't call the cops. Personally, if I had a neighbor that I disagreed with that strongly and he or she showed up sloppy drunk and naked, I'd call the cops and cackle like the Wicked Witch of the West as they were hauled off in the cruiser. Then, I'd post the video on youtube. (What can I say, I'm a sadistic fuck sometimes).


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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 11:28:40 AM   
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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 11:29:07 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: myotherself

I think you should go for it.

Don't forget to keep us updated. Maybe start a thread in 'Positive Experiences'.




Let us know how the restraining order works out.....


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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 11:31:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		A big fat hell no.

I can't tell you how incredibly creeped out and uncomfortable I would be if my neighbour approached me with this offer. To basically admit that you have been masturbating over her is weird if you're not in a relationship. Even weirder that you're now asking her to act out your kinky fantasies. What with this and the fact that you came into her apartment naked whilst drunk (albeit a while ago) you'd be putting her in a seriously uncomfortable situation. If it were me, I'd be waiting for one more incident to go for a restraining order.

To make it even worse you're fetishizing this woman because she's unattractive and unpleasant. How would that make her feel?

Here's another thing - if she thought 'hey that neighbour would be a great houseboy for me' she had the opportunity to bring that up. She didn't.

It wouldn't help her. If she needed help with things she can always ask you as a neighbour. You have already built up an elaborate fantasy that would not be satisfied if she said 'sure, would you just come over and run the vac around once a week?'. You want to be humiliated, blackmailed and taken advantage of. That's a lot of work for her. Especially when there is no suggestion at all that she is into this, and even if she was, she hasn't chosen you. She might also think that you are unpleasant and unattractive and so why would she want to get you off?

So those are the reasons from her point of view. From your point of view - what if she really did put you in an awful situation? What if she got you kicked out of the apartments because she reports you as a stalker. And here's the thing - if she's inconsiderate in general, she's not likely to be lovely in this situation. It sound hot, huh? The mean bitch who cracks the whip? Think about it in reality. This would suck ass. Not to mention the drama affecting all the other neighbours in the building.

THINK WITH THE BIG HEAD

Also, cut out the name calling. You ask for opinions, you get them.

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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 11:53:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the input!

As for name-calling.
I asked for an opinion on a specific situation.
Anything else, rude or otherwise, will also get my opinion back.

There is also a second part to this I did not have time to write earlier.
I always had the feeling that she never really came clean about what happened especailly after I told a friend about it who also knows her. As I was talking to my friend, my neighbor was coming up the steps and I stuck my head out. I said hello and asked her for a favor. She said sure, what's up? I told her that I had told a friend of mine about what had happened. Before I could finish the restof my sentence she cut me off and said, "Oh, and he wants to come over too?" And chuckled. I then told her it was a female and that she does not believe I did what I had done. She took the phone out of my hand and for the next 7-8 minutes went thru the entire story and told HER details she had not told me. She was laughing, joking and kept looking at her feet. She was saying stuff like, yeah, I guess he thought my feet were being neglected. Stuff like like. The whole time I'm standing 2 feet from her while she is basically making fun of me to my female friend. When she was done she handed me the phone and said--you two have fun with that. I thanked her and she left.
Now, one of the things she did not mention to me but said to my friend was when she said that my aparment was messed up. I had gotten a new couch and a big screen TV but still had my other furniture so it was packed. BUT...she mentioned the "BIG TV." The TV was in my bedroom. When she talked to me, she had said she left me at my doorway. She would have had to come in and walk down a hallway. Not at all close to the front door.
I understand that does not change a lot but simply shows she was not totally honest about what happened. I think the restraining order talk is a bit humorous.
She was neither traumaized nor "creeped-out" by the incident. And by the jokes she has made, I would doubt she would mind if it happened again.
But thanks again for the opinions on her.
I doubt I will follow up with her and keep all this as a one-time occurrence.
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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

A big fat hell no.

I can't tell you how incredibly creeped out and uncomfortable I would be if my neighbour approached me with this offer. To basically admit that you have been masturbating over her is weird if you're not in a relationship. Even weirder that you're now asking her to act out your kinky fantasies. What with this and the fact that you came into her apartment naked whilst drunk (albeit a while ago) you'd be putting her in a seriously uncomfortable situation. If it were me, I'd be waiting for one more incident to go for a restraining order.

To make it even worse you're fetishizing this woman because she's unattractive and unpleasant. How would that make her feel?

Here's another thing - if she thought 'hey that neighbour would be a great houseboy for me' she had the opportunity to bring that up. She didn't.

It wouldn't help her. If she needed help with things she can always ask you as a neighbour. You have already built up an elaborate fantasy that would not be satisfied if she said 'sure, would you just come over and run the vac around once a week?'. You want to be humiliated, blackmailed and taken advantage of. That's a lot of work for her. Especially when there is no suggestion at all that she is into this, and even if she was, she hasn't chosen you. She might also think that you are unpleasant and unattractive and so why would she want to get you off?

So those are the reasons from her point of view. From your point of view - what if she really did put you in an awful situation? What if she got you kicked out of the apartments because she reports you as a stalker. And here's the thing - if she's inconsiderate in general, she's not likely to be lovely in this situation. It sound hot, huh? The mean bitch who cracks the whip? Think about it in reality. This would suck ass. Not to mention the drama affecting all the other neighbours in the building.

THINK WITH THE BIG HEAD

Also, cut out the name calling. You ask for opinions, you get them.


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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 12:14:31 PM   
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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 12:25:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		To the OP, I hope you realize that the women you are asking to serve on the other side also have the ability to come over here and read what you post. I for one am very glad to know that you don't "give a fuck" about other people's opinions or how they view your words and actions because then it won't be too much of a disappointment when ladies avoid you for calling other women "cunt". And at the risk of being called names myself, pouting *isn't* attractive and what you are describing with your neighbor *is* creepy. You asked for people's opinions and you're getting them. Just because they don't validate the inappropriate fantasy you've got going on in your head is no reason to turn around and spew that sort of vitriol at people.

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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 12:32:23 PM   
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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 1:34:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Whippedboy

I often wonder if she did take any pics or vids. But it was mostly the rest of the apt. complex that did not like her. She does not have a probl with us because we are considerate, clean etc. We are not the ones letting their animals run around crapping on everyone else's patios, etc. But yes. I'm starting to re-think this...



quote:

After I got home, apparently my friend left. She said she heard me stumbling up the stairs and then heard a lot of commotion. I apparently left my door open and had taken my clothes off (which I do when I get home) and was walking around nude in my apt. Her door is directly across from mine and she had opened it to see what the noise was. When I saw her I came over to her and basically threw myself at the floor, wrapped myself around her feet/legs (while nude) and was asking to kiss her feet, general groveling. She said she eventually got me to stand up and said at that point she could smell the alcohol. She walked me back to my apt. and sent me in. She seemed unaffected by the whole thing. She said I was "docile" and not threatening in any way. Just that I was asking to stay, and trying to kiss her feet.


Hmmmm ... if you think you are a considerate neighbor, you are SADLY MISTAKEN.


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RE: Ask my neighbor? - 11/1/2012 3:46:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Let Me see if I've got this right. I didn't read the whole thing due to the format/lack of spaces between paragraphs.

You got drunk, made an ass out of yourself, and attempted shoving your kink down her throat. Probably due to the fact that she had some sympathy for you because you were wasted, she didn't make your life miserable over it by calling the cops or complaining to the landlord about your behavior.

So, because this woman was decent about your behavior while you were plastered, you want to force your kink on her again, but you'll be sober when you make her this fabulous offer that she probably wants nothing to do with? Oh, and let's not forget about how it's all about your fantasies and you spent half of the post saying terrible things about her.

Do you really need people to tell you not to do this or do you just like the humiliation?


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