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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 5:58:56 PM   
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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 6:04:37 PM   
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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 6:19:17 PM   
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has ann coulter ever offered you head?


I won't say, but it seems plausible to me that you would be more than happy to watch.


Ah hell Ron, he got you good on this one.


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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 6:41:56 PM   
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If Obama should win, it could mean war and not peace for the aforementioned reason. They will do what they can to embarrass the administration because it is liberal and they hate liberals.


its not about who the Iranian gouverment likes or dislikes.... Iran has never wanted a war, they haven't started a war in the last 400 years, so why would they now?

The only country that wants a war against Iran is Israel, and they will drag the US with them into that war.

As for the US it makes no difference on who will be in power as the US president needs to follow the so called "US intrests"... with other words, nothing really changes... it doesn't really matter who's in charge...

The only thing we can pray for is that if a war should come between Israel and Iran, is that nothing really would happen... according to Experts the US wouldn't even make it to Iran since no neighbouring country lets the US pass to attack Iran... And then we've still got the chance that countries as Russia and China get involved directly... if the US would listen to what experts have to say then they soon notice that there can only be achieved failure in this "war".

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 8:41:02 PM   
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According to Experts the US wouldn't even make it to Iran since no neighbouring country lets the US pass to attack Iran.


See http://travel.nationalgeographic.com/travel/countries/iran-map/

Since Iran is not land locked, it could be approached by sea. The United States does have a navy and realistically is Iraq to the West and Afghanistan to the East going to object? Would nearby Kuwait object? Where are we lacking in access?

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 8:44:46 PM   
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According to Experts the US wouldn't even make it to Iran since no neighbouring country lets the US pass to attack Iran.


France wouldn't let us fly through their airspace in'86 either but two of Kadhaffi's sons claim that our bombing mission made it through.



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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 9:43:45 PM   
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Iran has never wanted a war, they haven't started a war in the last 400 years, so why would they now?


I suppose what you are saying is talk is cheap: This is the Internet generation.

Isn't this what people were saying about U.S. diplomats, that no diplomat had been killed in the line of the duty in so many years? Consequently, these things should not be taken seriously.

Also are you not saying that since women don't commit crimes if a crime is committed it was because a man committed it? Since Iran fights like a woman, she has committed no wrongs and must be held blameless, and since Israel fights like a man, Israel is a rapist.

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 9:51:41 PM   
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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 9:52:14 PM   
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Since Iran is not land locked, it could be approached by sea. The United States does have a navy and realistically is Iraq to the West and Afghanistan to the East going to object? Would nearby Kuwait object? Where are we lacking in access?


Iraq and Afghanistan stand behind Iran so they won't grand acces to the US, you should know of Iraq for sure as they are allies of Iran.
As for Kuwait, it doesn't even have a border with Iran.

The only way to come to Iran would be by the sea wich would be mostly a suicide misson.

And if Russia or China would get involved (and there is a big chance that they would) it would be over for the US within a few days.
This becouse Iran, Russia and China have already everything set for an war against the US, China has permition to cross the Suez channel, and it has permition from Afghanistan to cross it with their army, Russia on its side can simply send its army overseas to Iran.

Watch what the experts say about it and you will soon notice that whatever will happen with a war US won't win. especially becouse Iran is such a anti-US country that it would only support the hatred against the US, the hatred in all Muslim countries will grow rapedly.




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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 9:54:15 PM   
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Also are you not saying that since women don't commit crimes if a crime is committed it was because a man committed it? Since Iran fights like a woman, she has committed no wrongs and must be held blameless, and since Israel fights like a man, Israel is a rapist.


This alrady shows your lack of knowledge about Iran.

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 10:07:09 PM   
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... especially becouse Iran is such a anti-US country that it would only support the hatred against the US, the hatred in all Muslim countries will grow rapedly.


Really?

A Jewish woman once told me that it is better to be respected than loved. Obama on the other hand seems to feel that it is better to be loved, than respected.

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 10:18:48 PM   
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And if Russia or China would get involved ...


Obama is a Manchurian Candidate. He will have done more to provoke Russia and China than anyone else before him.

If Obama was a man of peace he would have done everything that could be done to distance himself from such accusations. He is pure hate.

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 10:22:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Like i said before, on the issues of forgein issues a president of the US can't make his own grand desicions... they need to follow the so called "US intrests" so they can only do minor things, like Obama did towards Israel in his first four years.

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 10:50:21 PM   
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Like i said before, on the issues of forgein issues a president of the US can't make his own grand desicions... they need to follow the so called "US intrests" so they can only do minor things, like Obama did towards Israel in his first four years.


That is the theory and how both Moses II and Moses III the antimoses got elected, but if you didn't like Bush just remember Bush too is a virgin. Spoken sarcastically, "As President, it doesn't matter what you say or do. We are pulling the strings."

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 10:55:18 PM   
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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 11:02:36 PM   
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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/19/2012 11:14:04 PM   
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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/20/2012 12:03:31 AM   
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Anyway, looking into the news.

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Cruisers, aircraft carriers and minesweepers from 25 nations are converging on the strategically important Strait of Hormuz in an unprecedented show of force as Israel and Iran move towards the brink of war. ...

The multi-national naval force in the Gulf includes three US Nimitz class carrier groups, each of which has more aircraft than the entire complement of the Iranian air force.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9545597/Armada-of-international-naval-power-massing-in-the-Gulf-as-Israel-prepares-an-Iran-strike.html


It looks like the U.S. is going to get its ass kicked.

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/20/2012 12:32:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Should we make war with Iran? Maybe they are right about us. If we can elect people like Bush and Obama, what does that say about us? Maybe they pissed off the anti-paperass. Maybe they refused to worship at the altar of the anti-paperass. Is it not also possible that they too have a screw loose?

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/20/2012 12:34:56 AM   
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