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chainedandgagged -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 12:18:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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what is the opposite of pro life?


There isnt one. No one is pro-death.

You are not pro life. Their is no option for pro life in pro choice. none. therefore you are pro death.



stef -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 12:18:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: chainedandgagged

I asked a question, you cannot and do not read peoples minds or motives.

I've never tried to read your mind and your motives are irrelevent. I require neither to say that you're absolutely brimming with fail.

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you are the one who failed to answer the question. with any sort childish response, forget adult.

Do you not even remember what you wrote? You can go back and check if your memory is as faulty as your spelling and logic.

Your original question has no answer. There is no opposite of "pro life" as abortion is not the black and white issue some of the rapeublican party's more vocal mouthbreathers would like everyone to believe. You might as well have asked "what is the opposite of cheeseburger?" because it makes about as much sense.






tazzygirl -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 12:20:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: chainedandgagged


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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what is the opposite of pro life?


There isnt one. No one is pro-death.

You are not pro life. Their is no option for pro life in pro choice. none. therefore you are pro death.



No option for pro-life in pro-choice?

the very definition of choice allows for that option.

Maybe you need a dictionary beside you when you post.



chainedandgagged -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 12:20:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: chainedandgagged

I asked a question, you cannot and do not read peoples minds or motives.

I've never tried to read your mind and your motives are irrelevent. I require neither to say that you're absolutely brimming with fail.

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you are the one who failed to answer the question. with any sort childish response, forget adult.

Do you not even remember what you wrote? You can go back and check if your memory is as faulty as your spelling and logic.

Your original question has no answer. There is no opposite of "pro life" as abortion is not the black and white issue some of the rapeublican party's more vocal mouthbreathers would like everyone to believe. You might as well have asked "what is the opposite of cheeseburger?" because it makes about as much sense.





What is eliminating the bush tax cut? life is a black and white issue when it comes to abortion.........either you are for it or against it. their is no life in pro choice. if romney comes and says he pro choice and he chooses life......He is not pro choice. not in the aleternative universe you communist live in.



Mezrem -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 12:22:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
Is there a point to this post or are you just acting like a semi-literate 12-year-old?


I know a few 12-year-olds and I believe they would be insulted by the comparison...



tazzygirl -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 12:27:02 PM)

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What is eliminating the bush tax cut? life is a black and white issue when it comes to abortion.........either you are for it or against it. their is no life in pro choice. if romney comes and says he pro choice and he chooses life......He is not pro choice. not in the aleternative universe you communist live in.


I am all for allowing a woman to make her own choice... that is pro-choice. Its not one I would make.... but its not just about me.



Hillwilliam -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 12:27:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: chainedandgagged


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: chainedandgagged


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: chainedandgagged


as usual nor real respsonse to facts.

As per usual, the response is not a sentence nor even intelligible.

insane......at least you know who you are... a mouth full of birdshit.

Is there a point to this post or are you just acting like a semi-literate 12-year-old?

you havent anything relevant yet other obama won.......

I'm going to let you in on a deep dark secret. This board is a written medium. You are incapable of writing intelligibly. You also seem to be incapable of reading comprehension as I have reported at length what the Republican party did wrong this time as well as suggestions on how they can once again become the GRAND Old Party.
You are supposedly 33 years old yet your writing skill is on par with an elementary school student. Please, for the love of all that is holy, go back to school and get your GED. Skills obtained there will help you get a well paying job and you can then be working at that instead of torturing the people in this board with your utter illiteracy.



stef -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 12:33:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: chainedandgagged

What is eliminating the bush tax cut?

Are you playing Jeopardy now?

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life is a black and white issue when it comes to abortion.........

I, and the majority of the population, clearly disagree.

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either you are for it or against it. their is no life in pro choice.

I, and the majority of the population, clearly disagree.

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if romney comes and says he pro choice and he chooses life......He is not pro choice. not in the aleternative universe you communist live in.

Now I'm a communist because I disagree with your myopic views? Interesting logic. It's clearly on par with your spelling and grammar prowess.

Fail. Again.



farglebargle -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 1:07:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: chainedandgagged

Christie is politcally dead. He has no chance to win reelection.....less chance the repubicans have to outspend dems.


Only if you pander to the crazy religious extremists. Christie looks like the Moderate Second Coming to many Republicans today.



farglebargle -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 1:09:02 PM)

"There is no life in pro-choice"

It's not your blastocyst, so do not presume you have any right to tell anyone what THEY DO WITH THEIR BLASTOCYST.

Or don't you believe in Private Property Rights, COMRADE????



Winterapple -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 1:11:31 PM)

FR
An early hunch for 2016 is Jeb Bush who
spent this campaign positioning himself as
a voice of reason and tilting moderate.
He also has the asset of a Latina wife.
Then there's Rubio who gave Mitt the first
shove down the river with his convention
speech.

What does the party need to do?
Let the nineteenth century die.
Accept the world has changed and
straight white male hegemony is over
and won't be making a comeback.
Lose the fundie teapartiers.
Stop pissing off the Ron Paul supporters.
Realize that the majority of women voters
aren't like your grizzly mama sister wives.
Lose the draconian immigration stances.
Realize that young white voters don't by and
large share the racial and gay hang ups of
their grandparents.

Stop trading in a Dick Lugar for a Mourdock,
a Christopher Shays for a Linda McMahon,
a Lisa Murkowski for a Joe Miller.

Stop letting unelectable and unfit candidates
win the party primary. Akin, Mourdock, McMahon.
Didn't learn anything from Angle, McDonnell
and Miller in 2008.

Think about bringing back the Rockfeller
Republican. Moderate on social issues.
Educated. Not prone to birther nuttiness.

You can't be a national party without women
and nonwhites any longer. Sixty four percent
of female voters went for Obama. If you want
to believe they're all arcade queens go ahead.
Over seventy percent of African American,
Latino and Asian American voted Democrat.
Keep repulsing them with your pasty birther
pep rallies and your back in the good ole days
nostalgia but guess what they're Americans to
and they vote and will continue to do so.



Winterapple -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 1:14:42 PM)

Welfare queens not arcade queens[:(]



OttersSwim -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 1:28:18 PM)

She's a pinball wizard!!!!! [;)]



kdsub -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 1:29:30 PM)

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Remain an essentially white rural low education party


This is just not true my friend...or maybe i should say more complicated. Below is an interesting breakdown of preferences.

[image]http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k69/Daviskw2004/article-2229225-15E68E4C000005DC-921_634x868.jpg[/image]

Butch



DomYngBlk -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 2:25:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Winterapple

FR
An early hunch for 2016 is Jeb Bush who
spent this campaign positioning himself as
a voice of reason and tilting moderate.
He also has the asset of a Latina wife.
Then there's Rubio who gave Mitt the first
shove down the river with his convention
speech.

What does the party need to do?
Let the nineteenth century die.
Accept the world has changed and
straight white male hegemony is over
and won't be making a comeback.
Lose the fundie teapartiers.
Stop pissing off the Ron Paul supporters.
Realize that the majority of women voters
aren't like your grizzly mama sister wives.
Lose the draconian immigration stances.
Realize that young white voters don't by and
large share the racial and gay hang ups of
their grandparents.

Stop trading in a Dick Lugar for a Mourdock,
a Christopher Shays for a Linda McMahon,
a Lisa Murkowski for a Joe Miller.

Stop letting unelectable and unfit candidates
win the party primary. Akin, Mourdock, McMahon.
Didn't learn anything from Angle, McDonnell
and Miller in 2008.

Think about bringing back the Rockfeller
Republican. Moderate on social issues.
Educated. Not prone to birther nuttiness.

You can't be a national party without women
and nonwhites any longer. Sixty four percent
of female voters went for Obama. If you want
to believe they're all arcade queens go ahead.
Over seventy percent of African American,
Latino and Asian American voted Democrat.
Keep repulsing them with your pasty birther
pep rallies and your back in the good ole days
nostalgia but guess what they're Americans to
and they vote and will continue to do so.



I agree on the Bush thing but think maybe they try to make Rubio into Obama Republican......Or Huntsman Jr. who would have been a far better candidate against the President



DomKen -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 2:52:44 PM)

FR

I see the socks have chosen irrelevancy for their party. That's too bad.

For Republicans/conservatives with brains, go up thread and look at that demographic chart of the 2012 electorate. Note in particular thatthe percentage of the white vote was72%. In 2014 it will be more like 70% and in 2016 it will be under 70. With those trends how long before Texas, the state that lets your side even pretend to be relevant, is a swing state?

Extremism and hate are a bad basis for a political party and having the Republican party defined by such hurts this nation. Please come back to tolerance for those who disagree with you and re-embrace the belief that government should stay out of people's private affairs.



subrob1967 -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 3:22:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

1460 days rob. tick tick tick [8D]



Amen to that, and I don't believe in God!




Yachtie -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 4:01:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

FR

I see the socks have chosen irrelevancy for their party. That's too bad.

For Republicans/conservatives with brains, go up thread and look at that demographic chart of the 2012 electorate. Note in particular thatthe percentage of the white vote was72%. In 2014 it will be more like 70% and in 2016 it will be under 70. With those trends how long before Texas, the state that lets your side even pretend to be relevant, is a swing state?

Extremism and hate are a bad basis for a political party and having the Republican party defined by such hurts this nation. Please come back to tolerance for those who disagree with you and re-embrace belief that government should stay out of people's private affairs.


Americanism, limited government, call it what you will is dying. It's the equivalent of barbarians being allowed inside the gate. Given sufficient numbers and society has no choice but to alter to its next permutation. What made America so exceptional is becoming no more, and quickly. Immigrants have no concept of why America was able to do what it did. All they know is that they want some of it. Eventually America will look more like where they came from.

Even second and third generation are, for the most part, no exception. It's not in their make up. It's just the way it is.

The EU is suffering similarly.








PeonForHer -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 4:05:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slaveby12
They do need to move more to the center though and rid themselves of the extremist part of their party.


Is that ever going to happen? I think the thing that I, as a Brit, find most alien of all about American political culture is that it's so polarised. Here, many have pointed to the opposite sort of problem: that it's so centralised. Elections, everyone here knows, are won on the centre ground.



Politesub53 -> RE: The future of the Republican Party (11/7/2012 4:13:45 PM)

I was stunned at how long you Americans had to queue to vote for. I normally get pissed off if I am not in and out inside ten minutes.



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