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Alright. My real question... - 11/8/2012 7:03:53 PM   
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My experience as a slave is with an extremist, to say the least. Now, it's time to try and make a life work with a Dom who is NOT an extremist where being Dom is concerned - sexually or otherwise. How do I make this work? I want to. I really do but I always imagined that there would never be someone out there extreme enough for me. Now I'm embarking upon making a life with someone who is not so extreme as to say... "You are of no value unless you are pleasing to me" and smack the hell out of me if I didn't remember to do something during sex, as an example, that I'd been taught... mind you, I got hot over both of those...???? I'm daring to spill this to who ever is reading but I'm hoping it will pay off in answers or rather, suggestions/advice... please.

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RE: Alright. My real question... - 11/8/2012 7:09:29 PM   
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I would start with realizing this is a different person, different relationship & you're with this person likely for different reasons! There are ways to ask someone to be more rough...the big question in my mind is why are you trying to make this person like someone with whom things didn't work?

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RE: Alright. My real question... - 11/8/2012 10:12:55 PM   
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Thank you. That's a fair question, but I don't think I would say that's the reason it didn't work. When you say there are ways to ask someone, I'm curious as to what you have in mind because I'm quick to feel as though I'm topping from the bottom, that it's necessary to do so and lose respect. I don't particularly care for that aspect of my nature but it's there.

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RE: Alright. My real question... - 11/8/2012 10:50:44 PM   
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You have a frank and honest discussion with him, outside of play and outside of the bedroom. You talk about the things that you like. You then talk about the things that you would prefer to be changed, but you do it in a non-accusatory way.

For example, you don't say "you are not rough enough with me during sex", you say "I loved it when you grabbed me and threw me down on the bed".

And then you give him the chance to say what he thinks and feels.

Really, it's like two grown-ups having a conversation about their relationship...

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RE: Alright. My real question... - 11/8/2012 11:12:39 PM   
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MOS, for the win.

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RE: Alright. My real question... - 11/8/2012 11:34:55 PM   
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quote:

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Really, it's like two grown-ups having a conversation about their relationship...


BUNNY!!! How\....  LOGICAL... of you!!  

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RE: Alright. My real question... - 11/8/2012 11:40:12 PM   
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quote:

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...because I'm quick to feel as though I'm topping from the bottom, that it's necessary to do so and lose respect. I don't particularly care for that aspect of my nature but it's there.

Here's a different viewpoint for you... and one that I would have were I this guy. You can't "top me from the bottom" by telling me shit. That's why I think of myself as "dominant"... I don't get topped accidentally. That's just you giving me information upon which I can make an informed decision. But you sure as hell CAN top me from the bottom by withholding key information and therefore preventing me from ever making a choice.

I don't generally use the "topping from the bottom" terminology. I'd simply call it "fucking around with me" and my displeasure would be enormous.

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RE: Alright. My real question... - 11/9/2012 12:52:19 AM   
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RE: Alright. My real question... - 11/9/2012 1:13:23 AM   
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Lucky fellow.

You're not topping from the bottom.

TFTB would be if you told him what to do. You're simply telling him what buttons to push, what gets you hot. You're giving him the owners manual about yourself. What he chooses to do with the info is up to him. I know that, if it were me, I'd follow a path less extreme than what you mentioned, but likely stronger than before.

Start up a "This is what turns me on" chat in which BOTH of you list your fantasies. On a regular basis.

And ease up on the expectations. You're not making a life work. You're dating, with a possibility of LTR.

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RE: Alright. My real question... - 11/9/2012 7:02:05 AM   
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Being a slave or a submissive doesn't mean that you have to lose your voice. Any good Dom will be happy that you're able to speak up and let him know what really does it for you. Like others have said, what he does with the information after that is up to him, but letting him know only increases both of your chances for pleasure in the long term.

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RE: Alright. My real question... - 11/9/2012 8:22:26 AM   
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I tell him stuff all the time. If he feels like indulging me, he'll do it. If he doesn't feel like doing it, he won't. Hell, I tell him, order him, try to physically push him around. But it's always his decision.

If I can do it in a way that makes him laugh he's more likely to be amenable. But sometimes he just enjoys not thinking about me and what I need, and it's all about him. And that's just as hot as the times he decides to make it all about me.

< Message edited by DesFIP -- 11/9/2012 8:23:05 AM >


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RE: Alright. My real question... - 11/9/2012 8:48:40 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: alhamdullilah

My experience as a slave is with an extremist, to say the least. Now, it's time to try and make a life work with a Dom who is NOT an extremist where being Dom is concerned - sexually or otherwise. How do I make this work? I want to. I really do but I always imagined that there would never be someone out there extreme enough for me. Now I'm embarking upon making a life with someone who is not so extreme as to say... "You are of no value unless you are pleasing to me" and smack the hell out of me if I didn't remember to do something during sex, as an example, that I'd been taught... mind you, I got hot over both of those...???? I'm daring to spill this to who ever is reading but I'm hoping it will pay off in answers or rather, suggestions/advice... please.

My former owner was very extreme, always pushing the envelope with me, sometimes even going too far. We didn't work out for reasons outside of physical activity.

He who now owns me, and who has owned me for over 3 years now, is not at all extreme. In the beginning, I kept waiting for him to kick it up a notch, and he didn't. I was a little concerned that his level of play was so mild it might not fulfill me. But here's the thing - he is a really really awesome man, and the ways he fulfills me soar beyond the physical.

Like what MOS said, I'd tell him I loved it when he did this or that, and during play & sex I'd grab at him and "dare" him to totally ravish me, etc.

Sometimes, when just chatting outside of play, I'd ask him about doing one thing or another, and he'd say, "In time." I realized something - you know, we're always talking about on these boards about pushing the sub's/slave's limits, but we don't often talk about the dom's/master's boundaries and comfort levels. I decided patience would be my friend, and one thing I really did have to learn was to accept how kind and giving he is to me....because it gives him pleasure to do so. It was a new and different way of pushing my envelope.

So now, 3 years later, I tease him that he wimpified me, but when he pulls out that cane with an evil sadistic look in his eye, I cringe lol. The last 3+ years have included us exploring his own comfort levels together, and with him pushing my comfort levels in different ways. It's been fun, scary, painful, hilarious, and exciting. We both became creative about play, and it's been an awesome shared experience.

And all throughout, we've both kept the relationship and bond with each other a priority.

I agree with the others in this thread, too, that talking to him is not topping from the bottom. Asking for things is not topping from the bottom. Topping from the bottom ONLY exists if the top allows it.

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RE: Alright. My real question... - 11/9/2012 8:53:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

I tell him stuff all the time. If he feels like indulging me, he'll do it. If he doesn't feel like doing it, he won't. Hell, I tell him, order him, try to physically push him around. But it's always his decision.

If I can do it in a way that makes him laugh he's more likely to be amenable. But sometimes he just enjoys not thinking about me and what I need, and it's all about him. And that's just as hot as the times he decides to make it all about me.


Now thats my kind of dom sub thing! an excellent balance.
Subs should have their way sometimes, in my world anyway. But not all the time, I hate it. I want some rules damn it and discipline. :)
(shhhhhhhh but I dont really like to talk about it, it should just be known)


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RE: Alright. My real question... - 11/9/2012 4:17:54 PM   
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OP. I have been in your shoes, going from a controlling sadist, to more of a sweetie with evil tendencies in the bedroom. It took me quite a while - think about six months - to get used to the fact that he didn't need to behave like the first one.

It has been two years and i have stopped thinking that he should.................... what ever. It was grossly unfair to him to be comparing him to the first. He is a unique person in and off himself, and is not better or worse than anyone else. It was a process for me to lose the expectations that i had held for five years.

and he fufills me as much as the first - just in different ways - and after all, life is all about change.

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