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soft/psychological maledom? - 11/13/2012 2:40:01 AM

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Hi,
I don't know exactly where I should put it, so I put it here. I guess sex movies have a bad taste for many of us, still I was wondering if a certain type of movies exists.
The closest to what I want are femdom movies about humiliation, licking boots, queening, tease&denial etc. But I want to see it with the girl being the sub.
Somehow I have the feeling all maledom movies are about ramming your cock in the most brutal fashion into her mouth, ass, whatever. A bit of spanking, caning and clamps and this is it for the softest ones. There is a big variety concerning more brutal ways, but none really going for the psychological aspects.

As much as I like seeing that from time to time, it isn't what gets me off in general. I prefer tease and denial and psychological aspects. For example I found very few videos about female orgasm denial or play. I guess it is "common knowledge" that men are always horny and can be teased or made fun of being so. But the same thing works with girls too. A typical femdom movie would work too for maledom. She having to masturbate or use a vibrator and he teases her, makes fun of it. He could even do "queening" and make her lick his ass.

I don't believe that this is such a weird scenario for more moderate and sexually orientated doms out there. but i just see some elements in some movies, but they are never central.

I would love to hear your opinions and maybe suggestions,
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RE: soft/psychological maledom? - 11/13/2012 5:54:04 AM

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That is interesting. It is always my perception that female dominants are so much more "harder" on the person they are in charge of. Perhaps my own bias skews me that way.
Personally orgasm denial wouldn't work for me at all because it just makes me a bit nuts ... and i dont mean in that fun nuts kinda way... i mean in a clingy, insecure, pissed off kinda way.. but as for the rest ... you are right there is very little shaming and throning (i cant call it queening and kinging sounds weird so i propose throning). Good luck in your pornographic endevours.

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RE: soft/psychological maledom? - 11/13/2012 6:06:06 AM

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I can't really help since I don't watch much porn - they just don't make it as good as the stuff in my head. Even if I like most of what they are doing, they always end up doing/saying something which is a huge turn off.

That said, what you're asking for doesn't sound unreasonable. May I ask what kind of search terms you are using?

A lot of it is about perception. For me, licking someone's ass would be harsher than just being spanked and clamped, so it's not as simple as looking for softer/milder scenes.

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RE: soft/psychological maledom? - 11/13/2012 7:22:10 AM

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The sort of porn you seek doesnt exist.

Its hard to capture on film, takes talent on both sides of the lense.

It is however more what many women seek so why not find a real woman and make your life into your own.porn movie.

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RE: soft/psychological maledom? - 11/13/2012 7:24:24 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

I can't really help since I don't watch much porn - they just don't make it as good as the stuff in my head. Even if I like most of what they are doing, they always end up doing/saying something which is a huge turn off.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

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RE: soft/psychological maledom? - 11/13/2012 7:49:49 AM

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Hey, I feel for ya. Back in the day, I used to read gay leather porn (such as you could even find) and substitute asshole for pussy in the narrative.

Hot S+M porn has always been in short supply. You can only traverse the thin and lacking Story of O so many times. By def., porn is heavy on the sex and light on the character development. It's what the masses want.

You want a lot of forced humiliation and ass licking and you want a lot of careful exposition as to the motives. In a 80-90 minute film. Maybe they could go for a split screen technique like in the Woodstock movie?

I agree, it's a tall order and you should try your hand at creation yourself. I have never read a hot rimming story. Go ahead, make my day.

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RE: soft/psychological maledom? - 11/13/2012 1:07:13 PM

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thank you all so far, I will take a look at your suggestions when I get time.

As to hard vs soft, I guess I used the wrong words, I meant that most videos are more focused on physical pain. Physical humiliation in porn is rare and even rarer is mental humiliation.
I am bad at finding the right description, but I agree that I find the mental/shame/humiliation aspect worse than the pain aspect. I guess that is why I turn to femdom much more than maledom. It is also somehow ok for me, because I enjoy watching a girl getting herself pleasure(d).
But while I like to see it, and I love to pamper my girl sexually, coming down to a kink level, I prefer to be the dominant one and tease, deny and humiliate her.
I agree that it is probably nothing for a porn movie, but can only happen in a real relationship. But that is also the reason I look for such porn, I am not the type to just start some casual relationship to get myself off. While my last relationship was fulfilling, I don't feel like getting in a new one just now. Still I have my needs. And those femdom movies are much closer to it, than the maledom ones. So it can't just be a question of authenticity in making such movies with a male top.

@ autumnember
As to denial making you "clingy, insecure, pissed off kinda way", I guess I am quite sadistic there, but reading this, it could be fun for me. I like to make my girl furious or desperate) it is fun to watch how she struggles but can't get what she wants. Maybe take her in my arms and make her feel safe and understood, yet continuing to play with her. I love to feel with her, what she is going through. I have a good heart though, I always let her cum nicely in the end, but before she may have to wait wait for a long time, edge often, ruined orgasms or all together. It also depends on the girl,as to what she is sensible to.

@athenasurrenders
What keywords I use, actually none really pertinent, I just scroll through more general ones like humiliation, submission, ... every more detailed search like "girl kissing/licking feet/shoes of man" always gives me femdom stuff.
Call me an hopeless optimist, but I hope to find that porn movie site, that doesn't do or say the wrong stuff. Yet this is not only a problem of porn movies, also with real people, they often say the wrong things and you have to tell them. Which would bring us back to starting a relationship in some way or another, which isn't my intention at the moment for many reasons.

@Salinedion
Thank you for your kind words. You really nailed it with talking about the motives. I want to see motives. I want to see how that brain of the sub falls into the submission. How she may try to resist, but just can't. But because her Dom is cunning, not because he forces her in a physical way. Any strong guy can grab a girl on the street and rape her. That is not domination. Or at least not the kind I am looking for. I would love to see how the girl is torn between not wanting to do it, yet also not really be able to resist to do it. to see her devotion, but also her disgust. the effort she makes, but also the pleasure she gets from it.
when i write about it like that, i realize that it probably is foolish to look for that in a porn movie. Maybe we should switch the discussion to a general exchange of points of view on this.

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RE: soft/psychological maledom? - 11/13/2012 1:13:25 PM

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What you are asking for does not exist. Porn is not designed with anything cerebral in mind. People do not want to masturbate to thoughts, they like images in porn.

There is no film that depicts emotional submission in any meaningful way, other than perhaps, Secretary.

I am bored by porn; it is too artificial and what I have done in my own life rivals any porn, especially since it was real.

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RE: soft/psychological maledom? - 11/13/2012 1:23:13 PM

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Absolutely no sarcasm in this: you're too smart for porn. Really, you're wanting something that just isn't there, as the audience isn't big enough for it to be.

Though for different reasons - I'm not averse to physical brutality in my fantasies, or for that matter, reality - I have a similar issue in finding any porn that does it for me. It's not the actions, it just lack the emotional depth to match real life and the production values to match my internal fantasies.

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RE: soft/psychological maledom? - 11/13/2012 1:26:57 PM

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I guess you are right, I have too high standards. I won't get exactly what i want, as then I will have to do it myself. And as you say, there is not much thinking in porn movies. Though I saw some good tease&Denial ones. But it is always the girl that does the teasing and denying.

But I would already be happy with something like this, just reversed roles. I don't know if it is allowed to post links here, so I just describe. He is her dog and she throws her ballerinas, he has to fetch and bring them back, bark and stuff. Then worship her feet.
Nobody can tell me that it is too hard to do the same movie with her having to do it.
It is just that there seems to be no demand. But I don't believe that, I can't believe I am the only one who would watch this.

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RE: soft/psychological maledom? - 11/13/2012 1:32:04 PM

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Mine's motivation was that it made her wet and I was a credible guy to kneel for.

She was vanilla before me and had never given it a moment's thought. Her main motive was being really into me. Of course, the feeling was more than mutual.

'Never got any delicious reluctance or ambivalence about anything. A bit of a letdown, that, but if you have to pick a problem to have.......

On the artistic front, it seems like the vast majority of blogs and fiction are done by femsubs. A maledom's point of view is much less frequently heard.

Even in our own rarified, good fit deal, I would find it hard to articulate what I find so compelling about us without it sounding a bit stagey. So much of it is specific to our own private bubble world.

Also, a lot of the motivations that undergird our power dynamic are very un-hot, like mutual medical care-taking and our business relationship.

I can see why porn just shows the sex parts. You'd have to stagger through a lot of reality TV viewing, family obligations, and proposal writing in the SalineDion storyline to get to that spicy maintenance spanking on Sunday afternoon -just like we do.

< Message edited by Salinedion -- 11/13/2012 1:34:23 PM >

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