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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Just a crazy thought, but how we about we see how the prototype works, before we all rush in? Maybe see how 3 or 4 different prototypes work out, over a period of time long enough for inherent and structural problems to reveal themselves?

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Couple that with the lack of need for workman's compensation... a huge drain on businesses (insurance they pay for) .. which would also be covered under Universal health care.

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Of course we would never know. Something else we wont ever know... if those who are in it only for the money are no longer interested, how many would step in with their desire to heal to take their place? We have only so many residency slots a year... many are denied entrance due to lack of those slots.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Another point... I do wonder how many doctors, when first choosing their profession, were thinking strictly as a desire to heal... or the money. I'll bet there is a pretty even divide...and we , as patients, would never know. And it most likely would make no difference in their abilities.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I bring this up because of an old public television documentary, which I could not find, that addressed physicians in Russia and their competency under the medical system they had. They were saying because of the relative low pay under the system they were having troubles keeping enough doctors and the ones they had were not staying current in their fields. The overall quality of care was decreasing…at least according to the conclusion of the documentary.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub


I wonder at another often said, most likely myth... Do the quality of physicians suffer when pay is somewhat regulated by socialized medicine. I mean do young ambitious intelligent people decide to pick another field of endeavor that would provide less work higher income then that of a doctor?

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The Liverpool Care Pathway, (LCP), is in widespread use in the UK. It is flawed and dangerous. The Daily Telegraph has referred to it as the Death Pathway. There have been calls from victims families to have it banned. The old are particularly vulnerable because many of the so-called signs that are looked for to put a patient on the death pathway, such as frailty and declining mobility, are symptomatic of old-age in any case.

In fact, age is one of the factors also taken into consideration in putting the patient on the LCP! This petition is to call for its withdrawal. Every patient is an individual and deserves that individual consideration of their condition.

As it stands, anyone who falls into the clutches of the proponents of LCP and ticks all the boxes will be given assisted passage into the next world care of the NHS. This will apply particularly to the elderly who are, in any case, already suffering from that most terminal of all conditions - Old-Age! This will apply even contrary to the expressed wishes of patient and family, as this family has discovered.

According to Dr Peter Hargreaves, Consultant in Palliative Medicine, P. H. Millard, Emeritus Professor of Geriatrics University of London and others, in the year 2007-2008 alone, 16.5 per cent of deaths came about after terminal sedation through the, quote, disturbing blanket application of the Liverpool Care Pathway being rolled out across the NHS in the UK.