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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 4:05:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		me and my mom usually tag team -- she cooks the entrees and i do the sides and desserts. we're making fried turkey, baked ham with brown sugar and cinnamon glaze, macaroni & cheese, potato salad, collard greens, steamed asparagus, pound cake, banana pudding, seven-up cake, spinach dip, bread stuffing, and mixed greens salad.

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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 4:17:42 PM   
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Part of it is the anti-fat movement. Many animals have been bred and fed to produce less fat, pork in particular. Lean meat is not as tender.

This is also very true.
Also, the lean-brigade have rampaged about the fat in meat and many people don't realise that mega-lean beef and pork isn't that good for flavour.

That said, I rarely ever buy my meat that is sooo lean as not to have any decent marbled fat in it.
All too often you see a super-lean pre-packed joint in supermarkets that has a layer of fat added on afterwards. That is nowhere near as moist and tasty as naturally marbled fat in the meat.
Ask any decent chef - the marbling in the meat gives infinitely more moisture and flavour.

That's difficult to get with a bird though.
For birds, I put layers of herbed butter under the skin.
I also like the skin on my birds to be crispy & dry when cooked because it's far less fattening :)

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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 4:27:16 PM   
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i'm wondering if you are being argumentative just for the sake of it.

it is virtually impossible to grill a pork chop and have it flake with a fork.

i think that maybe you are also confusing brining with what supermarkets do which is to inject a solution into meat so that it lasts longer, and weighs more.

and seriously, if you have anything that isn't braising steak cooked brown all the way through you are doing it wrong. good steak should be pink in the middle at the very most.

so you don't like the way some people prepare their meats, get over it you're not invited for dinner.

needles

I disagree with you completely.
And I do cook pork chops that you can very easilly and effortlessly flake with a fork - every time.

And I don't like my steak pink either - I like it cooked right through.
The same with my beef. I can't stand seeing semi-raw meat that is supposed to be 'cooked'.
For me, and my family, 'cooked' means no longer red or even pink - that shows there's still blood present in the meat and we don't like it that way.

Some like it pink, some don't - it's a personal preference.
I don't think there's a right and wrong way to cook it as long as it meets with your own taste.

And I didn't say I don't like the way people prepare their meats; just that I wouldn't do it that way because I don't see the need to to fit my taste buds.

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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 4:27:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mashed potatoes, gravy, roasted cauliflower and broccoli with a creamy cashew sauce, homemade croissants and yeast rolls, collard greens, macaroni and cheese, dressing, cucumber-garden salad, cranberry sauce, sauteed green beans n' shiitake, and savory red beans and seitan. That's atleast my vegetarian side. There shall be ham, turkey, and probably fish.
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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 4:36:56 PM   
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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 4:40:13 PM   
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That's difficult to get with a bird though.
For birds, I put layers of herbed butter under the skin.
I also like the skin on my birds to be crispy & dry when cooked because it's far less fattening :)



I do the Martha Stewart version. Melted butter mixed with a bottle of white wine. The turkey is cooked with cheese cloth over the top so it holds the basting liquid. The cheese cloth is removed for the last half hour to make a crispy brown skin. It makes a very tender and moist turkey. As much I as I dislike Martha, she certainly got cooking the turkey right.


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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 5:35:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Freedomdwarf1 wrote:
      So you feel that adding water into the meat enhances it??
I don't.

       Water alone enhances nothing that I know of.  It is whatever is in the brine that enhanses and adds flavor to the meat.  My brine consists of chicken broth, kosher salt, peppercorns, brown sugar & allspice seeds/corns.  Brining works by osmosis... the flavored broth is drawn into the cellular structure of the meat, thus making the bird full of flavor and moist.  Show up on Turkey Day.... I'll prove this theory!~   *grin*

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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 5:57:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know how the family is celebrating this holiday. I want a simple ham but what the stores have is so salty I have to take a double Lasix for the water retention. Real mashed potatoes is a must have, kids love my mom's mac and cheese, there might be a pecan pie. I rather go to a Golden Corral if we had one here in town (STEAK!!!).



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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 6:25:17 PM   
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brined supermarket pork chops can be grilled without becoming shoe leather.

I cook supermarket pork chops without brining and they always turn out very moist and succulent and are almost 'mashable' where they are so soft and tender. You wouldn't need a knife to cut them.

I guess 'brining' isn't so popular over here because it's just not needed?
Maybe Amercican cuisine has gotten so bad on average that brining has become the way out to make it more palatable?

Just some musings because I don't really have an answer as to why someone would want to brine anything.


No. It's more likely that the pork you buy has been 'enhanced' before you bought it. Read the label if it includes water and sodium it was brined before you got it. Mass market hogs are much leaner, and drier, than they were 40 years ago to be more attractive to fat phobes.

Brining is hugely popular in Europe. The french have been doing it for at least centuries. It might be labeled as koshered instead of brining but the effect is the same. The old tradition of hanging salted meat and poultry also accomplished much the same effect as brining.

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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 6:41:01 PM   
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Baked turkey with bread and cranberry stuffing, fresh mashed potatoes and gravy, broccoli casserole, pumpkin pie and yeast rolls. And this week I will be making meals to hand out to the homeless masses that will be out begging for the holiday rush.

Why don't you invite some of the homeless maases to help you cook instead of making us wait out in the cold until your ready for us to beg for your "free" handout.

Edit: and why are there so many "homeless"? look in your mirror. Why is their a good chance I will not eat? I refuse to work as a prostitute on the streets for someones out of control slaves nor suffer the abusive treatment that is the price of "free".


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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 6:42:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanksgiving is a big deal in my family. There will likely be 25-30 people for dinner, with others stopping by throughout the day, especially for dessert. My cousin is making the appetizers, the turkey, some of the veggies and the pumpkin pies. I am making the rest: home baked artisan breads, my cheesy veggies, roasted brussel sprouts, and garlic mashed cauliflower. I am also making the other desserts: 2 apple pies, chocolate truffle cheesecake, a pumpkin-pecan pie, and an oreo pie.

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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 7:41:56 PM   
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Baked turkey with bread and cranberry stuffing, fresh mashed potatoes and gravy, broccoli casserole, pumpkin pie and yeast rolls. And this week I will be making meals to hand out to the homeless masses that will be out begging for the holiday rush.

Why don't you invite some of the homeless maases to help you cook instead of making us wait out in the cold until your ready for us to beg for your "free" handout.

Edit: and why are there so many "homeless"? look in your mirror. Why is their a good chance I will not eat? I refuse to work as a prostitute on the streets for someones out of control slaves nor suffer the abusive treatment that is the price of "free".



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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 8:12:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		There's about 20 of us and we always do way too much cooking and have WAY too much food, but at least we wind up with lots of great leftovers (which in my opinion is one of the great things of the holiday). Roasted turkey, cornbread sage dressing, mashed potatoes, green beans, mac and cheese, cranberry sauce, sauteed brussel sprouts, gravy, stuffed celery, deviled eggs, rolls, pumpkin pie, sour cream pound cake .. and probably other things that I've forgotten about.

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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 8:25:51 PM   
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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 8:32:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

Baked turkey with bread and cranberry stuffing, fresh mashed potatoes and gravy, broccoli casserole, pumpkin
pie and yeast rolls. And this week I will be making meals to hand out to the homeless masses that will be out begging
for the holiday rush.

Why don't you invite some of the homeless maases to help you cook instead of making us wait out in the cold until
your ready for us to beg for your "free" handout.

Edit: and why are there so many "homeless"? look in your mirror. Why is their a good chance I will not eat?
I refuse to work as a prostitute on the streets for someones out of control slaves nor suffer the abusive treatment
that is the price of "free".


I imagine if I were in need, I would be incredibly thankful for the extra time and thought Missokyst took in preparing
extra meals. She didn't cause your homelessness, nor should she be expected to have strangers in her home.
I hope your situation improves, but your anger at this act of good will is totally misdirected and insulting.


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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 8:39:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

Baked turkey with bread and cranberry stuffing, fresh mashed potatoes and gravy, broccoli casserole, pumpkin pie and yeast rolls. And this week I will be making meals to hand out to the homeless masses that will be out begging for the holiday rush.

Why don't you invite some of the homeless maases to help you cook instead of making us wait out in the cold until your ready for us to beg for your "free" handout.

Edit: and why are there so many "homeless"? look in your mirror. Why is their a good chance I will not eat? I refuse to work as a prostitute on the streets for someones out of control slaves nor suffer the abusive treatment that is the price of "free".



Why attack someone looking to do good?

Looking to do good and doing good are not the same. The OP uses derogatory terminology and it sounds like the only good to come is their own self gratification.


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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 9:01:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		softweregurl wrote:   Why don't you invite some of the homeless maases to help you cook instead of making us wait out in the cold until your ready for us to beg for your "free" handout.

        I personally think it's great that Missokyst is planning on helping others who are less fortunate than many are.  It makes me feel a bit guilty that I am not volunteering for something similar.  I do think those who can, should help.  And most times do, especially at this time of the year.  No doubt the majority of those homeless folks she mentioned will be most grateful for a wonderful meal.  I'm not sure why your reply seemed so angry, but do try and think of some reasons to be thankful for what you have, not angry for what you do not have.  Many have it worse than you. (Before you reply, no I do not know your situation, but there is always someone worse off when you stop and think about it)
 
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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 9:02:09 PM   
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My theory is to make enough that there are leftovers for at least a couple of days. After the "official" meal, y'all take yourselves to the kitchen and raid the fridge.



Has anyone started a Thanksgiving leftover recipe thread yet?


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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 9:02:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I spent the day baking potatoes and turning them into twice baked. They're in the freezer for now. Will remove late Wednesday so they can thaw and then be brought to my sister's. 15 huge bakers, and there will only be 17 of us. One of my nephews will account for five halves on his own.

Also made the first batch of milk chocolate almond biscotti. Need to make a second tomorrow. Also a batch of toffee chocolate chip ones. Plus an apple cocoa cake with chocolate glaze.

The funny thing is that my son will eat an enormous amount and then pack himself a bag of leftovers to eat on the car ride home. And he's the skinniest one in the family.

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RE: What are you having for Thanksgiving? - 11/17/2012 9:41:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Mister has a horrendous work schedule this time of year. so he always sees
Thanksgiving as just another day. So while I don't play hostess as much as I'd like to,
I will be cooking a small turkey dinner with all the fixings, and packing up a few plates
to bring to him and some of his single coworkers.

Strangely enough, the most important must have items for me on Thanksgiving Day
are walnuts, tangerines, and mince meat pie. They always remind me of home.

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