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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 2:16:01 PM   
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Got some coal in the stocking huh? That's the only explanation I can come up with for that level of resentment.

I've neither the time nor the inclination to address every point but there are a few things I must answer.

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This is not normal behaviour, is it? You don't turn to someone in your life and say 'It's your birthday next month I better start shopping.


When it is someone's birthday you're only shopping for one person, with Christmas you're shopping for several.


It's not unusual to have several birthdays of family members very close to each other.
And from my own experience, most people don't bother for birthday shopping until almost the 11th hour generally (that's assuming the guys actually remember the birthdays! lol)
I understood what she was getting at.

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You don't wake up on a Monday morning and say 'Oh shit! I've only got six days left to buy the meat for Sunday dinner."


Not when it is dinner for a family of four or five... a dinner for twenty or thirty people on the other hand take some advanced planning.

Most of us over here don't usually have dinner for more than the immediate family.
Larger gatherings of more than that are not the norm over here.
For one, most of us don't have kitchens or homes big enough to cater for such large numbers. So for anything like this we would need to hire a hall or hotel or other such venue big enough to cater for more than a small group of people.
For another, most of us, even with a good salary, don't have that sort of spare cash to lash out on such huge amounts of food unless it's a special occasion such as a wedding or golden anniversary etc. Our income is less than half of those in equivalent jobs in the US and our cost of living is considerably higher.
I see what she is getting at - we buy our sunday meat on the Saturday prior to the immediate Sunday lunch or even on the same day.

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How many of you are going to be sitting there at home and saying at some point 'I'm completely stuffed and can't eat another thing'? And how many of you will probably get up an hour and half later and make a sandwich?


In all of my Thanksgivings I have never seen anyone make a sandwich and hour and a half after the the meal... or even two hours or three hours. The sandwiches are for the next day. I've already got my mayo and cheese ready to go.

What you Americans tend to do regarding stuffing yourself stupid at Thanksgivings is what us Brits tend to do at xmas dinners (seeing as we don't have anything like Thanksgivings here).
And wherever I have been visiting friends and relatives, I have seen this behaviour pretty much most of the time here.

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Take turkey for instance. Let's face it, turkey is a big ugly bird which by rights should have been extinct, but survives because people force themselves to eat its dry, bland, tasteless meat.


Dry? Bland? Tasteless? Somebody in your circle needs some cooking lessons. When done properly turkey is juicy and delicious. Also, turkeys are doing just fine in the wild. They are intelligent birds and surprisingly fast and any hunter who bags one has earned some major bragging rights.

My turkey isn't ever dry.
But to be honest, it's hardly a very tasty meat is it?
I couldn't give a flying fuck if I never tasted the bird ever again for the rest of my life.
Unless it's spiced up, it really is quite tasteless.
Turkeys don't run wild here either. They are farmed purely for xmas in large turkey farms.
So nobody over here could go bag a turkey.

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I live in London. You can go down any High Street in London and you will find places where you can buy pizza, kebabs, chicken and burgers, or burgers, pasta, pizzas, chicken and kebabs, or even burgers, pizza, chicken and kebabs. You don't find anyone selling turkey anywhere. Burger King and MacDonalds don't offer turkey and KFC is probably so successful because it is Kentucky Fried Chicken and not Kentucky Fried Turkey.


I can go into any deli, any grocery store, and find turkey for sale any time of the year. I can go to any sub shop and get a turkey sub any time of the year.

Actually, turkey is not that common over here.
You can't just go into any grocery store or supermarket here and buy turkey.
You also don't have a 'turkey sub' in our Subways over here either - it's not an option. In all the Subway's I've been in I have never seen turkey on the Subway menu. Chicken, yes. Beef, yes. Steak, yes. Cheese & bacon, yes. All sorts of sliced meat including the likes of ham, pastrami, salami etc... but never turkey.

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But this doesn't stop people buying turkey for all the major Christian holidays and forcing themselves to eat it.


I have never heard of anybody having turkey on Easter. What other major Christian holidays are there? Well, at least ones that have crossed over to the mainstream. I suppose you could include Valentine's day but that is all about chocolate. Saint Patrick's day? Corned beef and beer. Mardi Gras? Booze and boobs.

Well, if you are going to hate Christmas, that is your prerogative... but I'm still going to wish you a happy one.




I think the only majorly 'christian' holiday we have here is xmas.
You could count Easter I suppose but that's basically chocolate eggs for the kids.
I can't think of any others off the top of my head.


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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 2:45:10 PM   
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You know, I saw Christmas stuff out before Halloween this year.

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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 3:07:57 PM   
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Christmas is a nice time of year. A time to get together with family and friends. If you hate Christmas, mind your own business and leave the rest of us alone.  

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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 3:09:25 PM   
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Yeah, and for the feeble-minded that like christmas, mind your own business and leave us alone.

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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 3:15:19 PM   
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Got some coal in the stocking huh? That's the only explanation I can come up with for that level of resentment.



Well I'm sorry you missed my attempt at humour.

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Well, if you are going to hate Christmas, that is your prerogative... but I'm still going to wish you a happy one.



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I don't celebrate Christmas but I fully support the rights of people who do.



Try not to read too much into what I post, because me hating Christmas is really wide of the mark. Especially as you missed the humour.



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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 3:28:55 PM   
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I actually like xmas - but not because of what the majority celebrate it for.
I also hate all the commercialism that seems to come with it and those oh-so-fucking-dreadful carols we hear everywhere we go that we were forced to sing at school.

I like it because it's one of the few times of the year when I can tell the kids to sit their asses at the table and eat with the rest of the family instead of swanning off to a mates house or kicking their heels in town.
And when their mates come knocking at the door I can tell them to fuck off because it's christmas and time for the family - they can come back in the new year! lol.

I can be a typical 'Kevin bloody Wilson' with the "Ho ho, fucking ho. What a crock of shit..."
I've got a whole collection of similar stuff that we play when people come calling.
Gotta love it!

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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 3:38:57 PM   
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In a giving and loving manner of course.


You forgot subly...


I did....forgive me...(I blame myself).

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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 3:41:05 PM   
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It's not Christmas that is being shoved down your throat.

That's commercialism.



(Thank you).

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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 3:42:45 PM   
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Christmas is a nice time of year. A time to get together with family and friends. If you hate Christmas, mind your own business and leave the rest of us alone.  


Perzakly!!!! Enjoy!

Quit fucking bitching.

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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 3:43:50 PM   
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  The average Christian on the street is not to blame.

Thank you. I almost feel sad to say that I wish more people knew that.



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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 3:46:49 PM   
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It's not Christmas that is being shoved down your throat.

That's commercialism.




Yes indeed!

The only thing I love about Christmas, is being able to take ten or more days off work!

Because my clients are!

Don't take THAT AWAY!

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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 3:50:59 PM   
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It's not Christmas that is being shoved down your throat.

That's commercialism.



(Thank you).



Gee .. I was not thinking Commercial ... Just Selfish !!!

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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 8:06:30 PM   
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Christmas is a nice time of year. A time to get together with family and friends. If you hate Christmas, mind your own business and leave the rest of us alone.  


Mind YOUR own business IN THE PRIVACY OF YOUR OWN HOME and leave the rest of us alone. If you truly "Love Christ", you wouldn't feel this need to prove it so publicly, would you? Seems to me like a classic case of 'overcompensation'.





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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 8:11:03 PM   
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Maybe you should stay at home and let the majority enjoy the Christmas season. And yes, you are in the minority.

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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 8:33:19 PM   
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The only question that really remains is: which three collarme regulars will take on the role of the three ghosts? I can see you Aylee as the Ghost of Christmas Past. I will gladly handle the role of Ghost of Christmas Future (I'm looking forward toward pointing my sickle at the empty grave with his name on the headstone). So who will fill in the role of Ghost of Christmas Present?


That would be me. I have a really NARLY strap-on I gave been saving for just such an occasion. But when I get there I want to see Servant in the bathrobe

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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 8:45:03 PM   
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That would be me. I have a really NARLY strap-on I gave been saving for just such an occasion. But when I get there I want to see Servant in the bathrobe


You have done it now missy, you have made servant's night, you might have made his year!


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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 9:18:34 PM   
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Perhaps you ought to read the New Testament, Farglebargle? Ignore whatever is not to your appetite, and value the morsels of new wisdom you will find there.

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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 10:06:17 PM   
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Perhaps you ought to read the New Testament, Farglebargle?

Now you've done it.

K.

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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 10:34:08 PM   
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War on Christmas? I don't see a war on Christmas. It is everywhere. In my area, the Christmas stuff was on the shelves before the Halloween stuff went up. It was pretty freaky walking through my local K-Mart or Walmart in the middle of October and seeing the ghosts, goblins and vampires next to the Christmas lights and ornaments.

I have a friend who is Jewish. She loves Christmas trees and puts up a big, fat artificial tree every December 15th. She also puts it up for other holidays, with the appropriate decorations, of course. Her July 4 tree is the most awesome of all of them.

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RE: I, for one, fully support a War on Christmas. - 11/21/2012 10:35:59 PM   
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I was shocked when I saw my first Easter Tree.... lol....

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