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Rochsub2009 -> RE: interacial relationships (11/27/2012 10:27:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MollyButts

i was in a relationship with a white guy in my last relationship and i liked it ,what are your feelings on interacial relationships in the bdsm world

molly


I haven't read any of the other replies (I'm feeling lazy today), so forgive me if I repeat what's already been said.

This is 2012, so for the most part, inter-racial relationships are no longer new or interesting. It sounds like your last relationship may have been your first experience with inter-racial, but it's not a unique situation.

IMO, BDSM isn't very different from vanilla. If two people are into each other, then that's great. The actual activities that go on within that relationship are somewhat secondary.

There is one element that i can think of that is slightly different in inter-racial BDSM, and that's "race play". Race play is when race becomes the primary focus of your play. It is no longer an unimportant element. Personally, I don't enjoy race play.

I've been asked to pretend to be a gang member, and to do a rape scene with a white Domme. Apparently, she had always fantasized about being raped by a black gang member.

I've also been asked to serve a Domme who wanted to re-enact a southern plantation scene. She wanted me to be her black slave, while she pretended to be my southern belle master. She wanted to include liberal use of the n-word into our play. She felt that it made the scene more legitimate, since that term would have been used often in those days. But I felt that the scene was degrading and refused to participate.

As I mentioned, I don't like race play. I don't like being the object of someone's fetish simply because of my race. I don't enjoy having people treat me like a stereotype. I don't like being called the n-word

But having said that, I have done quite a bit of inter-racial dating over the years. Not because of the race of the person, but because I liked the person, and they just happened to belong to a different race. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.

BTW, I'm not saying that it's wrong to enjoy race play. Only you can make that decision. I'm simply saying that I don't enjoy it.

Good luck to you.
-Roch




ServosCor -> RE: interacial relationships (11/27/2012 10:14:15 PM)

hi molly! 

           Seems to me if you are happy w/ who you are with and he is good to you,  you should just count your blessings and forget about what anyone else thinks.       This goes for any relationship and has nothing to do w/ bdsm IMO. 

              servos cor




sunshinemiss -> RE: interacial relationships (11/28/2012 5:16:14 AM)

Interracial relationships can be a HUGE deal in some cultures. The taboo is sexy. For other groups, not so much. (and individuals of course)




fucktoyprincess -> RE: interacial relationships (11/28/2012 7:23:28 AM)

Having been born and raised in the U.S. I would have to say that interracial relationships (even marriages) are not as rare as they once were (especially depending on where you live in the country). I can't speak for other parts of the world.

I think people are either open to dating and marriage outside their "group" or not, and again, "group" can be defined so many different ways, including things like religion. For example, I have many Catholic friends who have dated a wide range of "color", but mostly within the Catholic religion. So some of this is intertwined with other things.

At the end of the day, for dating, I think it hardly matters at all, and for longer term relationships, it doesn't matter as long as both people have the same approach to life. Long term relationships do tend to work better when both people involved have the same overall attitudes around politics, raising children, etc.

I'm also one of those who is not into race based play, but I know it's out there, and is part of the bdsm world.

The only thing I would say is that to me it is alright for people to say they have personal preferences with regards to how people look (we all do). But if someone is simply not open at all to dating outside their race based on the notion of race alone, I do have to question the source of that feeling. For example, if you found someone of another race attractive, but still felt it was wrong to date them (and trust me, I've encountered people like this).




mnottertail -> RE: interacial relationships (11/28/2012 7:39:20 AM)

The interraccial is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favor to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.




wandersalone -> RE: interacial relationships (11/28/2012 8:12:11 AM)

hmmm what an odd question and one I have never consciously thought about in the choices I have made about who to date. Thinking about it, all of my relationships have been interacial but maybe that is just a factor of the cultural/colour percentages in Australia.

I choose who to date based upon the person they are, if I feel an attraction towards them, if they can make me laugh and if we have things in common.




meatcleaver -> RE: interacial relationships (11/28/2012 10:47:24 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MollyButts

i was in a relationship with a white guy in my last relationship and i liked it ,what are your feelings on interacial relationships in the bdsm world

molly


I suspect if people are honest, most like a little exoticism from time to time but political correctness doesn't allow them to say it. When I was in Japan did I want to test the local flora and fauna, damn right I did. When I was in Brazil, did I want to test the local flora and fauna their? Damn right I did. Do I like a BDSM session with a black woman? Damn right I do. Rationally I know people are people but do I like playing the spectrum? Damn right I do. While there is no mechanical difference, there is certainly a cultural difference from my experience. Do I care if other people are in mixed relationships? That's for them. Of course if you are in a relationship for long enough, the exoticism disappears.




Rochsub2009 -> RE: interacial relationships (11/28/2012 11:05:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

I suspect if people are honest, most like a little exoticism from time to time but political correctness doesn't allow them to say it. When I was in Japan did I want to test the local flora and fauna, damn right I did. When I was in Brazil, did I want to test the local flora and fauna their? Damn right I did. Do I like a BDSM session with a black woman? Damn right I do. Rationally I know people are people but do I like playing the spectrum? Damn right I do. While there is no mechanical difference, there is certainly a cultural difference from my experience.



Actually, I agree with you. I do think there is an element of political correctness that goes into some people's answers.

Personally, I do like the contrast of skin colors when I'm laying next to a woman of a different ethnic background. But I wouldn't be in bed with her in the first place if I didn't like her as a person.

If I looked at it in a purely statistical fashion, I've probably dated a disproportionately high number of Asian women relative to their representation in the population of the cities that I've live in. Perhaps that means that I'm attracted to Asian women. I don't think there is anything wrong with being attracted to certain physical characteristics. To me, it's no different than being attracted to blondes, or to thin people.




Genobee -> RE: interacial relationships (11/28/2012 11:44:10 AM)

The concept of the race of someone affecting one's outlook on another always perplexed me a bit. What does it matter if someone's race is of a certain type?
Races still have a wide range of physical features that exists in their classification. I do not know if I will be attracted to someone by race alone. How could I?

If it's about physical attraction, I still need to see their face, body, clothing preference, and other things to know or not if I will be physically attracted to them.
It certainly doesn't say anything about one's personality or mental capabilities.

The only thing I can even remotely see is perhaps it presents a set of more likely facial and body features in someone.
But because races still have so many variable qualities, it shouldn't be utilized as something absolute in that case.

For instance, I am typically more physically attracted to Asians and Caucasians due to those races typically having body/facial features that appeal to me personally.
However, I've been attracted to plenty of women who were Indian, African-American, Arabian, and many other races as well.
Not to mention, it is even more important that what is in the mind is compatible with my mind. That transcends race all together.
In conclusion, I don't believe one should ever exclude someone simply because they are of a certain race.




meatcleaver -> RE: interacial relationships (11/28/2012 12:37:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Genobee

The concept of the race of someone affecting one's outlook on another always perplexed me a bit. What does it matter if someone's race is of a certain type?
Races still have a wide range of physical features that exists in their classification. I do not know if I will be attracted to someone by race alone. How could I?

If it's about physical attraction, I still need to see their face, body, clothing preference, and other things to know or not if I will be physically attracted to them.
It certainly doesn't say anything about one's personality or mental capabilities.

The only thing I can even remotely see is perhaps it presents a set of more likely facial and body features in someone.
But because races still have so many variable qualities, it shouldn't be utilized as something absolute in that case.

For instance, I am typically more physically attracted to Asians and Caucasians due to those races typically having body/facial features that appeal to me personally.
However, I've been attracted to plenty of women who were Indian, African-American, Arabian, and many other races as well.
Not to mention, it is even more important that what is in the mind is compatible with my mind. That transcends race all together.
In conclusion, I don't believe one should ever exclude someone simply because they are of a certain race.


You say the concept of race affecting someone's outlook perplexing and then go on to ay you've been attracted to women of other races. Maybe you like a little exoticism too? Just maybe? I know it rubs against the grain of political correctness to be attracted to anyone for anything but their personality but don't you think, a different colour skin, a different body type and a different cultural perspective might just been a teensy weensy bit attractive? In the long run it won't form the basis of any long term relationship any more than a good arse will but I suspect most people really are attracted a little exoticism and why not?

Judging the intrinsic quality of a person by race, well I'm on your page but I don't think that was the question.




Genobee -> RE: interacial relationships (11/28/2012 1:00:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

quote:

ORIGINAL: Genobee

The concept of the race of someone affecting one's outlook on another always perplexed me a bit. What does it matter if someone's race is of a certain type?
Races still have a wide range of physical features that exists in their classification. I do not know if I will be attracted to someone by race alone. How could I?

If it's about physical attraction, I still need to see their face, body, clothing preference, and other things to know or not if I will be physically attracted to them.
It certainly doesn't say anything about one's personality or mental capabilities.

The only thing I can even remotely see is perhaps it presents a set of more likely facial and body features in someone.
But because races still have so many variable qualities, it shouldn't be utilized as something absolute in that case.

For instance, I am typically more physically attracted to Asians and Caucasians due to those races typically having body/facial features that appeal to me personally.
However, I've been attracted to plenty of women who were Indian, African-American, Arabian, and many other races as well.
Not to mention, it is even more important that what is in the mind is compatible with my mind. That transcends race all together.
In conclusion, I don't believe one should ever exclude someone simply because they are of a certain race.


You say the concept of race affecting someone's outlook perplexing and then go on to ay you've been attracted to women of other races. Maybe you like a little exoticism too? Just maybe? I know it rubs against the grain of political correctness to be attracted to anyone for anything but their personality but don't you think, a different colour skin, a different body type and a different cultural perspective might just been a teensy weensy bit attractive? In the long run it won't form the basis of any long term relationship any more than a good arse will but I suspect most people really are attracted a little exoticism and why not?

Judging the intrinsic quality of a person by race, well I'm on your page but I don't think that was the question.


I believe you may of misunderstood what I meant when I said "For instance, I am typically more physically attracted to Asians and Caucasians due to those races typically having body/facial features that appeal to me personally. "

I honestly meant only the direct meaning of my words. Asians and Caucasians typically do have facial and body features that generally are more physically appealing to me in terms to what I'm attracted to. It isn't due to any form of exoticism. Like-wise, other races have had combinations of facial and body features that came together in such a way that I also found very physically attractive. It wasn't as frequent compared to the two races I mentioned before, but it still is very possible within the range of potential physical characteristics that I have found in other races. It has a lot to do with proportions and alignments and textures and many other things as well which come together rather randomly in the form of DNA configuration.

I honestly don't usually find any race to be more exotic than another on the simple basis of being of a certain race. If there is ever a situation where that is the case, it usually isn't so by a strong amount. Clothing choice, personality, in conjunction with actual physical qualities carry much more weight for any sense of exoticism that I'd label as alluring.

It's a big drift from my point though, that because a race only entails likely ranges of physical characteristics, that it doesn't make sense to exclude someone due to race alone. Their set of physical qualities could very well still be something that come together as attractive to you. And of course, what is in the mind is of even greater importance as well which does indeed transcend any label of race.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: interacial relationships (11/28/2012 3:58:28 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MollyButts

i was in a relationship with a white guy in my last relationship and i liked it ,what are your feelings on interacial relationships in the bdsm world

molly


I was in a relationship with a black girl...sweetest thing I ever tasted...like velvet.




Nelee -> RE: interacial relationships (11/28/2012 10:56:36 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


quote:

ORIGINAL: MollyButts

i was in a relationship with a white guy in my last relationship and i liked it ,what are your feelings on interacial relationships in the bdsm world

molly


I was in a relationship with a black girl...sweetest thing I ever tasted...like velvet.


I was in a relationship with a white girl... it was pretty freaking sweet.




TNDommeK -> RE: interacial relationships (11/29/2012 12:36:35 PM)

We are a big ol melting pot over here...Hubs is black, I am white/Italian, there is an indian/persian, and a transparent white girl. LOL I would call her a ginger: red hair, pale etc.

Being down south sometimes is hard for interracial dating. Just yesterday we got some " unapproving looks". [8|] Idiots.




ClassAct2006 -> RE: interacial relationships (11/29/2012 12:42:41 PM)

It's irrelevant but I do live in a very racially mixed and integrated part of the UK so I don't think it is something that is at all unusual. Race is not part of any sexual fantasy or idea for me. I do find Nordic looking men most attractive though. I remember coming back on a business flight and I was physically attracted to about 70% of the men and then I realised why - all fit, slim, blonde, tall. That is I hope just a visual preference rather than a racial issue, like some men prefer blondes or whatever and it's certainly not the first thing I look for which will always be dominance and brains.




LillyBoPeep -> RE: interacial relationships (11/29/2012 6:04:55 PM)

all of my relationships have been with white guys. i've never dated a black guy, but it's not often that i relate to them (at least in my life experience) well enough to even be friends, much less date them. i make it a point these days to chat up other brown people i see in the areas i frequent, but here in Omaha, things are pretty segregated in a lot of ways. a lot of times, i'm THE black chick in the room.

I did meet a cool black guy at a BLS concert - we high-fived each other and shouted "i'm not the only one!" it was funny. :)

I don't think skin color matters, and I'm not interested in people for whom it TOTALLY does matter. Which is fine because they usually aren't interested in me either. =p




MissToYouRedux -> RE: interacial relationships (11/29/2012 6:37:36 PM)

I like "exotic", and I had a wonderful black sub for years [:)] , but "exotic" for me has meant a lot of things. [;)]




ShaharThorne -> RE: interacial relationships (11/29/2012 7:11:14 PM)

My brother married a Hawaiin(?), I had a long relationship with my daughter's father (He was half Fiplano(?)) and I am 1/16 Osage Indian. No cross words in our family about how mixed we are. My other SIL has a Chicano cousin who plays for the Chargers.




TieMeInKnottss -> RE: interacial relationships (11/30/2012 3:21:34 PM)

Not sure why...but I feel like this is one of those "meant to agitate" or "set off a firestorm"...questions. You are over 18, you know what you like, why and why not... If he was the first white guy you ever dated & had a great experience...sure repeat it, just make sure the new guy has all the same characteristics, personality, background... Oh, but if you are going to prioritize that stuff...race would be irrelevant...

One thing that irks me... If a white dom came on here and said "I dated a black sub & she was a bitch or she was a doormat or she was boring... Should I just never date another black woman again?"... Everyone would be jumping down his throat about being insensitive, racist...stereotyping...for "implying all black woman are the same"... Either you are incredibly stupid & have lived in a bubble (no matter what race u are) or you are attempting to incite a firestorm for amusement or to be able to say " I knew everyone here would say that"




provfivetine -> RE: interacial relationships (11/30/2012 4:44:37 PM)

Interracial relationships? Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum!

Regarding race and relationships: it's important not to extrapolate a generality onto an entire demographic. Just because you date a person who claims to be from group X does not mean that all X's will be this way.




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