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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/16/2006 10:25:06 PM   
MsKatHouston


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Status: offline 		I love tattoos but I don't think I would mark a sub like that.  I never have.  I think tattoos are very personal and I'd prefer a sub to find their own tat as part of their personality, an expression of themselves.  Maybe in a lasting relationship I would have a sub get a tattoo but have them pick out their own design.  I can certainly understand the appeal though.  I prefer piercings personally for markings of ownership. 

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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/16/2006 11:08:12 PM   
trippingdaisy


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Yes, i do have tattoos, but none of them are markings from Master. i would, however, get one.

i think the idea is lovely. :) We do have matching tattoos, but those were done with a couple other friends as well.

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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/16/2006 11:14:24 PM   
perverseangelic


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Status: offline 		I -love- marks and body art. It's something that's intensly personal and important to me, and I'm incredibly proud of the tattoos I have, and those I hope to someday get. My Owner isn't hugely fond of tattoos however, so my getting to do more is -always- an iffy thing hinging on his good favor.


I wrote about tattoos in my journal not long ago, though, in response to a friend who'd been tattooed by her Master. Figured I'd c&p it here, because it's easier than trying to re-explain my outlook.
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The idea of marking is something that appeals to me and moves me on a sexual and spiritual level. I like knowing that the person I am with wants me to -belong- to him in an irevocable way. (That is, that even if we for some reason stop being together, his effect on me will still be visible.) I want him to know and to embrace how much of an impact he's had on me, and exactly how much I -need- to belong to him.

I mark myself with my own experiences, because I need to -see- them on my body. It's important to me to have it written on my skin and not just in my brain. I really would love to see my commitment there as well.

It's something that I don't want to come from me, though, y'know? I want it to be something -he- wants to do, that -he- wants to see on me. And I know he isn't into tattoos at all, so I'm pretty sure he'll -never- want this. Who knows.

I'd love for him to want to get something that matches and/or compliments the mark I have. I find that to be one of the most incredibly gestures of love and commitment ever.


This is something I want a great deal, and have a hard time accepting that I'll never get. It's like wishing he'd send me flowers at work. I'm pretty darn sure that isn't his style, and that he wouldn't ever think of it, but that doesn't mean I don't stop hoping and hoping.[added: I'm not perfect. I still want things because -I- want them, even though I know he doesn't. We're working on this outlook, slowly, but my journal is a good way to explore my feelings]

As we've gotten more and more comfortable with my belonging to him, I hope that some day he'd want that. That someday he'd want my body to say "I am His" in a way that I can't shrug off because I'm having a bad day. With me, I know that even if we stopped being together, wearing that mark wouldn't be a -bad- thing. It'd be part of me.



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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/16/2006 11:14:24 PM   
SaintPain


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I am engaged to my Dom...and both he and I will be getting tattoos (this week actually) that reflect our relationship.  I have actually been trying to design what it is I want...and am having the hardest time doing it (and am almost down to the wire).  I love the idea of markings...I have many piercings and another tattoo...all of which have been a result of my lifestyle choice.  So I just see this activity as another way to make our relationship stronger.

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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/16/2006 11:56:28 PM   
ExistentialSteel


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Status: offline 		A few years ago I was involved with someone and wrote her a love poem as often happens. The poem had a butterfly metaphor as often happens also…haha. Anyway, she loved the poem and the next time I saw her, she had a tattoo of a butterfly on her ankle. The tattoo was her first. The thing is that I don’t have any and don’t especially like them. I have no qualms with one or two in inconspicuous places, but I would never tell someone to get one on my behalf. But after she showed me, I had to act like I was honored by her action and tell her how beautiful it was. She and I are no longer together and I wonder how she feels about that tattoo now.

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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/17/2006 5:24:31 AM   
twicehappy


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ORIGINAL: zero69u2

a wedding ring.. hmmm in court of law your collar does'nt give you anything.
A wedding ring gives you half of everything.


I was collared to my previous Master for 18 years, we never married. We both had a durable Power of Attorney for each other. When he passed away i was the sole beneficiary of his will.

Prior to his passing i had retired at the age of 38 reasonably well off having worked two steady jobs aside from profits gained by  racing motorcycles and building one ups, so i do not need or want half of anything. The biggest issue if they ever divorced would be attempting to divide my heart in two.

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So your engaging in polygamy and Mistress has all the power of law since she's married to your Master if anything happens.


It is in both their wills if either of them predeceases me the other is left with provisions and instructions regarding my care.

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have you given much thought to what happens when they decide to pick up other slaves or move you out (as you get older and less attractive).


They had a male when i arrived who had been here on a trial period that did not work out, Mistress is currently looking for a male, though she would not be adverse to another female if she fit well. If and when any slave, and while they would happily welcome and collar another sub, it would have to be a 24/7 slave before they would consider tattooing them, reached the point of being tattooed provisions would be made for this family member as well.

As to worrying about them desiring me less as i age, no, sorry, i do not see that happening. That you imply that our relationship is based on petty surface visual desirability i find quite insulting. It is based on love. Master, Mistress and slave we are, yet we are also an emotionally bonded poly family, the emphasis there being family.

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  rules of palimony don't apply here in most states. so you'd be evicted with no ground to stand on. with the clothes on your back a collar and a tattoo.


My owners have never evicted anyone, not ever. When a sub/slave has moved in and it did not work out they cared and provided for these until they found another situation or helped them secure employment and living arrangements.

As to me personally i am quite capable of living comfortable without ever working another day in my life, thank you.

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If they get in a car accident tommorow.. everything goes to their realations and your out in the street with a tattoo.


If they died before me i have unalterable lifetimes rights to reside in our home until i pass away guaranteed me in both their wills with the executorship and responsibilities of administering the estate and caring for the house and bills  in the hands of their oldest daughter(who btw loves me dearly and often pops in early to tease me into making her waffles or to help me with yard  or bike work) until such time as i am deceased, the remainder of the estate then passing to be divided by all the children. 

Owners who care for their slaves on the level that mine care for me make provisions for them, and they have a durable P.O.A. to allow them to care for me if i become incapacitated, with the exception of my estate which will be handled by my oldest daughter in which i have made provisions for my owners.


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ORIGINAL: perverseangelic

The idea of marking is something that appeals to me and moves me on a sexual and spiritual level. I like knowing that the person I am with wants me to -belong- to him in an irevocable way.I want him to know and to embrace how much of an impact he's had on me, and exactly how much I -need- to belong to him.

I mark myself with my own experiences, because I need to -see- them on my body. It's important to me to have it written on my skin and not just in my brain. I really would love to see my commitment there as well.


Beautifully expressed and much the way i feel on this subject also. 


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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/17/2006 5:33:58 AM   
spankmepink11


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One of my sons recently tattooed my initials on his forearm. (his first)  My feelings on that were conflicting. On one hand, i tried to be sensible and make him aware of the permanance of tattoos etc...but  part of me was incredibly touched and honored when he said " Mom...you're why i'm me..." 

I enjoy tattoos, and have a rather inconspicuous one on my ankle, but have wanted another for a while. , I've had my next tattoo semi designed for a few years now....and will get it eventually....it will allow for a space for my eventual  very long term Partner to insert a symbol of our choice  to represent our relationship.
I also have a slight interest in branding...and would not be too adverse to a discreet brand (again....only in a relationship that is  well established  for the long term).

edited to add :   I guess that means he forgives me for the circumsicion  

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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/17/2006 5:52:33 AM   
feastie


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Status: offline 		Some of you may find this funny, others may not...please take it in the vein it is offered...humor observed in children...

My neice is 16-years-old.  Some of the girls she goes to school with have the tattoo that goes across the top of their buttocks...I forget what it is called...

Anyhoo, many of the kids in her school have taken to calling this particular type of tattoo a "tramp stamp".  Its connotations are not necessarily funny, no...it's just the wording that makes me giggle.

Do not, for any moment or stretch of the imagination, think that I personally believe that people that have this tattoo are tramps.  These are kids and they are still learning their way.  It's the originality of the term that I appreciate, not the meaning behind it.  And no, I didn't point out the error of her ways to her, there are very specific reasons I did not which I will not discuss on these forums.  Suffice to say that for her, it is a coping mechanism and leave it at that.



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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/17/2006 6:20:57 AM   
sabswife


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from my point of view . I have many tattoos . all designed by me and significant too me . they tell a history orsomething about me ...
 
 If I choose to mark a slave with a tattoo it will be something I design and will have significant meaning to remind her that she is mine . she and I will be the only ones who know that it means I own her body and soul. To those who want to know ... yes . that perticular tattoo is already drawn adn waiting to be applied to some tender white flesh


i agree with this, tattoos -- or any permanant marking is not something to be taken lightly at all.  my tattoo holds deep significant meaning to me and all my upcoming tattoos are designed that have been very carefully planned and thought out to not just be a tattoo but as a lasting symbol of very important aspects of my life, and His.

i would never ever be one of those people to just hop into a tattoo shop and pick flash off the wall.  no chance.

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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/17/2006 6:27:05 AM   
bandit25


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Status: offline 		Although I don't have one, I wouldn't be adverse to it. 

Twice, I was so looking forward to your reply when I read the first post.  Of course, it was exactly how I thought it would be.  You have a wonderful relationship with your Pair.  It shows in every post you make.

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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/17/2006 6:33:23 AM   
LatexImage


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Status: offline 		I totally like and agree with permanant markings.  But with that comes permanant responsibilities. 



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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/17/2006 6:34:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bandit25

Twice, I was so looking forward to your reply when I read the first post.  Of course, it was exactly how I thought it would be.  You have a wonderful relationship with your Pair.  It shows in every post you make.


Awwww.... thank you sweetheart. Yes they are wonderful people and we suit each other very well, i am blessed over and over again.

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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/17/2006 6:38:42 AM   
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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/17/2006 6:45:03 AM   
slavejlb


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Status: offline 		comming from the prespective of a mark slave,  I did thinking our realtionship would grow stronger because of tattoo, it too lies on my left breast, it say i am the proprety of Master JVH,. when what is easy for you to place there is not so easy for slave to remove,  plus when the realtionship ends, it is easy for the dom to walk away, but for the slave she has an everyday reminder until she can afford to have it remove. When my time with Master ended, i was the one who woke each to look at the marks, for you see there is also a tattoo in my cleavage, that marks me as a slave, and to know that i am no longer his or any one elses, it is just a sad lonely reminder, of a life that was, and is now gone,
take care and be safe slave jlb

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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/17/2006 6:46:48 AM   
xxmstrchasxx


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My sub and I have talked about this and what we were going to do is she was going to get a pair of handcuff tattooed on her breast and I was going to get a key tattooed on my chest.

The woman who was going to do it for us died very early in life and we haven't went anywhere else yet, also have some heath issues that my doctor said I might want to think about before doing it.



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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/17/2006 6:55:12 AM   
talibahh


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hello twice
 
First of all, well answered to zero, i thought him to be rather negative and insulting to you, not knowing your situation, but rather assuming.
 
i really love the idea of having a tattoo, (or maybe even 3 in time), to show/mark, my Ownership to my Master. So much so, that it was one of the things i have asked Him, if it would be something He would like too, (of course if all goes well... and He would, for sure  ).
 
i  weighed up the *fors* and *againsts*, and came to the conclusion that it would only be something done, once we are both so sure of our relationship. i wouldnt be collared and tattooed in the first week for example. But in time/over time... a trial collar first (because of the distance involved), and then in time, be offered (and accept) a permanent, long term collar and with this, a tattoo (and in time, maybe another 2, if He so wishes ).
 
i think perverseangelic wrote it so well...
 
ORIGINAL: perverseangelic

The idea of marking is something that appeals to me and moves me on a sexual and spiritual level. I like knowing that the person I am with wants me to -belong- to him in an irevocable way.I want him to know and to embrace how much of an impact he's had on me, and exactly how much I -need- to belong to him.  
 
 So very true and so well put... (thanks perverse )... for me... i want and need to feel so totally Owned and His, and to have markings on my body that show this, for Him to see i am His as much as for me to see them and be reminded that i am His property and possession, His slave... Owned. 
 
i asked Him where He would like to have them put, He said the first one would be the small of my back. Then perhaps in time, another above my mons pubis and another on either my upper thigh or my butt... all sounds great to me
 
tali



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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/17/2006 7:01:45 AM   
HisTicia


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Status: offline 		I don't have my collar yet..though I get it in just a matter of a couple of weeks..Yippee!  I actually am begging Him to let me wear it all of the time.. I don't mind it being locked..but we are going to have a necklace that says "Daddy's girl" on it.. for more formal occasions.
 
I am getting a tattoo by the end of the year..across my back.. with His name for me..and a rose with thorns design.  I am very happy about this.. I love tatts anyway..and I have 3 now that each mean something special to me..as this one will.
 
I would never, ever do it without the total commitment with Daddy though... to us.. the collar and the tattoo.. are symbols of our love..and almost like a wedding to us until our legal one can be had.  He is also getting one..marking Him as the one that owns me.. so I feel that it is a total exchange of trust between us.. and that just melts my heart..and seals me to Him for life.

Edited.. because I am a doofus
 

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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/17/2006 7:03:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		I like the idea, however I have always believed that such markings should be somewhat non-specific (i.e. they should not be solely the name, initials, or face) I also believe that each should get a marking that is relevant to the other whether it be in the form of matching tattoos or complementary ones (wonderful idea for the design xxmstrchasxx). This way, regardless of what happens in the future, it can always be a reminder of good things. Myself and my fiancé are getting matching tats when we're married. 

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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/17/2006 7:08:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think we'd all like to say ideally I'm going to get this person's name tattooed on my ass and He/She is going to own me forever. We all know the reality of it is that may not actually be the case you can spend ten years with someone and then something happens so I agree I don't know if I'd want Him to tattoo his name on me. I'd much rather something that is special to both of us that holds meaning for both of us and something that was picked especially for me and represents me. But I still love being marked as his. I love looking at marks left upon my body after play knowing he put them on me.

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RE: Marking your sub/slave - 6/17/2006 7:13:22 AM   
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I also believe that each should get a marking that is relevant to the other whether it be in the form of matching tattoos or complementary ones (wonderful idea for the design xxmstrchasxx).


Thank You ArtimisBlack.

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