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Forced Orgasm? - 12/2/2012 1:01:45 PM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		I just do not get this on so many levels. First off, any moron with an ac outlet anc hitachi can do it, so no skill, no connection, nada. And forced orgasm? Thats like forced sushi. I was talking with a friend who is open to some wild ass stuff...but that kink freaks her out.
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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/2/2012 1:15:34 PM   
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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/2/2012 1:17:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are times when I just cannot orgasm at all due to being pissed off, tired, ill, etc....you can take a hitachi to me all day and I won't orgasm because my body just shuts down, but given a man who knows where to touch me, how to make me feel gushy inside, who knows my mind better than I know it myself.....and he can almost always force an orgasm from me.

When I was with the ex Dom and I knew he was cheating on me, he would take the hitachi to me and not a thing...nothing...because I felt nothing for him at that time. I went years without one even when I was having casual sex because I was doing it in the hopes of feeling something, anything, to wanting intimacy again with a man after my husband died. But of course, that rarely ever worked out.

So no not every single man can give a woman an orgasm. Women's orgasms are not always as easy as putting a hitachi to her. Most women I know, their orgasms are tied to their emotions and psyche.


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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/2/2012 1:51:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Once you get a gal who's multi-O rolling, you can keep her going and it doesn't require a Hitachi but they are quite helpful. I've had partners beg me to stop making them cum.

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/2/2012 2:03:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I disagree. I am supremely orgasmic for the right person, a cold frigid bitch for the wrong person. Fancy toys will not change that one wit.

Despite being multi-orgasmic, there is a limit to how often even that special person can truly 'force' an orgasm from me. I shut down, and once that happens well, did I mention cold frigid bitch?



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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/2/2012 2:26:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can give myself an orgasm in seconds with my Eroscillator but no one else has yet been able to make me cum, including with a Hitachi.

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/2/2012 2:40:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

I just do not get this on so many levels. First off, any moron with an ac outlet anc hitachi can do it, so no skill, no connection, nada. And forced orgasm? Thats like forced sushi. I was talking with a friend who is open to some wild ass stuff...but that kink freaks her out.


Wrong.


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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/2/2012 3:05:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		i don't like things on me that vibrate, in fact i find them down right fucking annoying. toys alone will not make me cum either. i doubt that anyone will be able to force an orgasm from me. if i don't want the man then it's not happening full stop, if i want him then there is no force.

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/2/2012 4:20:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have had many physical, mental, emotional, and interpersonal situations result in orgasms that I really wish hadn't. Some REAL rape victims come away with added shame and confusion because an orgasm happened in the middle of one of the worst moments of their lives. At the very physical base, orgasm is nothing but the body's natural response to certain stimuli. Lots of other things can be wrapped up in an orgasm like attraction, emotions, physical comfort, and intimacy, but biology can trump them all. It's nature's way of making sure the species continues. We don't have to like it. I remember a long time ago studying about human reproduction and there being some evidence to suggest that female orgasm significantly improved the likelihood of pregnancy by basically placing the cervix directly in the pooling area for semen. Now, if it was ever disproved I have no idea, but it seems kinda logical I guess and would explain why biology would have this fail safe built in. Then again, it could just be pure horse hockey. I don't know. Regardless though, yes orgasm can be forced and no, it isn't as simple as Hitachi-ing someone to death. It takes just the right stimuli to do the job. And, yes, there is a such thing as too many orgasms. Pain and dehydration are very real possibilities.

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/2/2012 5:59:46 PM   
ARIES83


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Status: offline 		Plugging a girl in flipping the switch and going to
watch a documentary is the kind of picture your
painting for me, but apart from that...
Making someone O is good, making it happen when
you deside to and them not having a say is more
fun, controling when they will and wont is even
better.

Of course I want to be the one doing it to her
and watching the results, it's like using her as a
play thing, a toy to play with, theres heaps of
connection SM!
It's about being in control and her at your mercy,
making her hate and love that control.

I don't know what it's like the the bdsm world,
but thats what it's like for me in a private
setting with a partner.

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/2/2012 6:20:35 PM   
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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/2/2012 7:51:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		There have been a lot of responses to the orgasm side of forced orgasm. I am responding to the other side of the coin.

There is an interesting dichotomy compared to another "forced" kink: Forced femme. When a thread comes along about forced femme, people make a big distinction about whether the action is actually forced (non-consent) or whether its playful consensual resistance. The overwhelming response there is that "It's not really forced - you want it, you just want to switch the onus of control." Here, it seems that "force" is being used as "beyond the control of." I do not understand it to go as far as rape, but instead the top's ability to push you over the O-line when the bottom is trying either indifferent, or resistant.

Absolut makes a great point on this issue, what is forced orgasm? Is it just a way of saying "more orgasms?" I recognize that orgasms can be painful after a while.

Littlewonder was the first here to address the ephemeral nature of women's orgasms, and how heady they can be. If forced orgasms are about pushing the physical nerve sensations to the point of orgasm regardless of emotional state, then there is a faulty assumption. That one is engaging in consensual kink (and probably a lot of other kinds of play) requires that the bottom is willing to play. Ergo, it's not forced orgasm on your way out of work, Monday afternoon. Its forced orgasm amid sexy time.

Muttling brings an interesting physiological point: Some people (namely some women) are designed to chain orgasm. It gets easier every time, and the hunger only grows until the spirit is willing but the flesh is spongy and bruised.

Sacred sheds light by suggesting that it's not a brute force approach based on how many revolutions per minute the motor is running. But its cheating to use love, affinity, affection, trust, and nonjudgmental comfort as tools in this game. Because that's just good sex, not "forced orgasms." So the tools must be mechanical in nature. Vibration is a powerchord in the ballad, save for with Needles. What else? Penetration, impact, licking/sucking, manhandling. These begin to approach the human relationship that makes sex more enjoyable for women like Chatte. The two cannot be completely separated.

I like Aries' approach: Play her like the proverbial fiddle. Make her produce notes she didn't know she could. But to Micheal's credit, that's not best described as forced orgasm.

Overall I agree with Michael: I don't get it. Still a fan of it, I'm just not persuaded by the title. Also, I'm taking +1 point for dropping a cartoon reference in a lucid, intelligent, well thought out response to alternative lifestyle choices.

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/2/2012 10:55:57 PM   
AthenaSurrenders


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Status: offline 		For me personally, I'll agree there's no particular skill involved in giving me an orgasm. Hell, if I'm into you and you just look at me the wrong way... but for many (most?) women just holding a vibe in place is not all it takes. If the head space isn't there then it's way way harder. So yes, I do think you can 'force' an orgasm with someone who genuinely doesn't want one. I do think the term is more commonly used in the playful 'oh I'm gonna tie you down and give you so much pleasure whether you like it or not!' sense.

What I will say is that too many orgasms start to become painful. Extremely oversensitive. I find this is really bad with direct clitoral stimulation - after a certain point it is sore and sickening and probably more likely to make me cry than a hard beating. At that point headspace or not, it tends to happen regardless and it aint nice. I'd call this forced orgasm. It's definitely torture.

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/3/2012 6:01:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, Bambi, between you and Aries, you've got me all worked up this morning. Just thought you ought to know.

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/3/2012 11:58:56 AM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		He's never done it with a vibrator, only his hands. But once you're actually having abdominal pain from all the orgasms, begging him to stop, you will understand why it's forced.

Except not, since the op is male and incapable of it.

It's The Man's favorite thing.

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/3/2012 1:31:22 PM   
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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/3/2012 2:23:53 PM   
SacredDepravity


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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/3/2012 2:36:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		This just goes to show how different people are.


The multi orgasmic thing is a myth to me. Twice is like a miracle.......lol. The OH baby over and over is just a lie to me. FOR ME. It might be true but it is not my reality.

Just as lil wonder said, I can shut it completely off. It ain't gonna happen, period.

Its a mind thing. More so for some then others.

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/3/2012 3:46:12 PM   
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Just as lil wonder said, I can shut it completely off. It ain't gonna happen, period.

Ahem, I can tell you from personal experience, that ain't exactly true :-)

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/3/2012 4:45:09 PM   
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First off, any moron with an ac outlet anc hitachi can do it, so no skill, no connection, nada.


That aint exactly true.

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