freedomdwarf1
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ORIGINAL: JanMikal
FreedomDwarf1,
I must wonder when it came about that making a true, factual, provable statement became an insult. If I said 'You are blonde' to a person with light hair...would that be an insult? What if I said to an octogenerian 'You are old'? Is that, in fact, offensive? Or if I told someone born in London, UK "You are British'? Would they have reason to be upset?
It may be a true, factual statement.
But like I said, certain words are just taken as insulting and rude when used directly - true or otherwise.
There are many other ways, far less disparaging and rude, that can and could be used.
There is a distinct difference between calling someone 'old' as opposed to 'elderly' for instance.
The other examples are completely irrelevant - such as hair colour etc.
It's these little subtleties that make all the difference and something that you seem not to understand.
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ORIGINAL: JanMikal
My original intent in that journal entry...if you would bother to read it in its entirety and get an over all sense of it instead of focusing on the bits that you don't like and harping on them, is that imperfection is GOOD, 'PCness' is BAD, and that the best way to be is HONEST. In your reply, you said '...suggest that you stop using offensive language that many do not care for...' So is the word 'deaf' now offensive? Is the term 'black' insulting for people of predominantly African descent?
I did read your journal in it's entirety - from beginning to end.
And that is what prompted me to make my reply.
And no, I did not say that 'deaf' was offensive.
Only you could have made that interpretation.
And by doing so, just shows your mindset and inability to see the subtle differences in the use of language.
That also doesn't imply that you should be dishonest either.
It's your bluntness and indiscriminate use of less-than-honourable words that people will (and have done) read it as being being either rude or discourteous when reading your profile and journal entries.
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ORIGINAL: JanMikal
Also, in your example, you're comparing apples and oranges; nowhere in the definition of 'cunt', at least in the bit you quoted, does is say that that particular word is used to refer to any woman in general. It says 'female sex organs' and 'sexual intercourse'. Have you never used the word 'cunt' to describe sexual organs? I have, and I think most here have as well; granted, I am generalizing, but I think I am safe in doing so. But the definition has no mention, again, at least the bit you quoted, that 'cunt' is used to refer to a woman. If your dictionary DOES include that word being used to refer to a woman, I would wager that right there in the print it has a notation like 'Vulgar' or 'Slang', denoting that the entry cited is not proper usage.
Judging from the responses I've garnered from my posting here, I feel, however, I must agree with you; apparently, I do have no 'friggin clue' what is and is not rude. Where I come from, honesty and truthfulness is not rude, it is simply...truthful.
Being truthful and using words that are considered by most as disparaging and unpleasant are two different things.
There are many ways to express things or describe things.
Most are pleasant, some are nice, some are considered unpleasant and insulting.
It is unfortunate that you have chosen to use the unpleasant and insulting ones when refering to people and conditions (ie, using fat, as opposed to 'overweight') and that is what I, and other people on here are telling you.
Your references are just... well, not nice.
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ORIGINAL: JanMikal
Granted, if I said to someone 'Hey, you're fat,' and MEANT it as an insult, if I were TRYING to upset someone, then certainly, it would be awful of me. But I was NOT doing so; I was making a point about political correctness and how it can lead one astray. And here is the odd thing; you claim I 'harp on about it' (and I assume you mean the 'fat' concept) in my journal. After looking through that journal AGAIN, I see that I turned the spotlight on that particular subject ONCE, in perhaps four or five sentences worth, in part of a three or four PAGE journal entry. I can't imagine that is a suitable definition of 'harping on about it'. Perhaps you should examine your own insecurities if THAT relatively small mention in a much larger entry is what grabs your attention so keenly.
You are missing the point here...
Whether its one word in a sentence, paragraph, page or two, or whole chapter.
The fact that you used said word in the way that you have, and a few other instances with other words, just shows your inability to be sensitive - which part of your profile claims to be.
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